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#671926 Nov 9, 2013
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#671927 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I understand that it was a belief, but it was taught as fact for a long, long time.
Even though it was never a fact.
That is my one and only poiht on this matter.
Point taken, that which brought me to to odds with you.
As I said science is tested ...not believed.
Spontaneous generation was not science, it was an untested hypothesis, believed to be true, until it was subjected to
testing using science. Which proved it was wrong.
Calling belief science, is the same as saying any untested hypothesis is scientific and true. Which is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Science did not teach us it was right, it showed us it was wrong.

Which is a completely opposing view, than the one you take.

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#671928 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The iPhone is functioning science & technology at work. I was pointing out flaws, like your just said...
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No. I'm showing you that scientific fact is not ways fact.
Spontaneous generation was a fact and it was taught as fact.
Even though it was never a fact.
THAT is the point and THAT is a huge flaw in science
Until someone did an actual experiment.

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#671930 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It was science, you didn't even read your own link.
And it's a perfect example if new science trumping old science, turning a "fact" into a history page.
I wonder if, in 2,000 years, Einstein's theories will just be laughable history pages like Aristotle's are....
Aristotle's theory that light objects fall slower than heavy object is laughable because a simple experiment will disprove it.

Newtons Theory of Gravity though is still taught in schools even though it's been proven wrong because it's accurate enough to send probes to Mars. It's also very simple.

Einstein's theory of General Relativity has been proven to be remarkably accurate. If it's ever displaced it will still be considered an amazingly accurate idea.

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#671931 Nov 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Point taken, that which brought me to to odds with you.
As I said science is tested ...not believed.
Spontaneous generation was not science, it was an untested hypothesis, believed to be true, until it was subjected to
testing using science. Which proved it was wrong.
Calling belief science, is the same as saying any untested hypothesis is scientific and true. Which is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Science did not teach us it was right, it showed us it was wrong.
Which is a completely opposing view, than the one you take.
You're still not getting it.

In 2013, spontaneous generation is not fact.

In 0013, spontaneous generation considered a fact.

And it was taught as fact for nearly 2,000 years.

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#671932 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The iPhone is functioning science & technology at work. I was pointing out flaws, like your just said...
You asked him to explain the connection between Aristotle's SG and the iPhone.

He did.

If you want people to address your points... you could help by including them in your posts.
No. I'm showing you that scientific fact is not ways fact.
Spontaneous generation was a fact and it was taught as fact.
Even though it was never a fact.
THAT is the point and THAT is a huge flaw in science
You're not showing anything to anyone.

That's not a flaw in science. That's one of the best things about science. That's what makes it work... the fact that when science proves something wrong... even itself... then science advances.

You just described the problem with religion.

Science >>> Dynamic.
Religion >>> Dogmatic.

Science >>> Relies on the empirical.
Religion >>> Relies on lack of the empirical.

Science >>> Stands on its own merits.
Religion >>> Falters on its own merits.

Science >>> Pays for itself.
Religion >>> Relies on handouts.

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#671933 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I understand that it was a belief, but it was taught as fact for a long, long time.
Even though it was never a fact.
That is my one and only poiht on this matter.
Then you don't have a point.

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#671934 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You read it, I already have.
Spontaneous generation was the accepted fact for a very long time.
"However, the experimental difficulties are greater than people might think, and objections from persons holding the traditional views persisted."
Some people said spontaneous generation was wrong, most said it's right.
The some were ultimately right, of course.
My point is only that science taught an absolutely incorrect science for beaky 2,000 years.
You point is that science corrected itself.

Why can't religion do that?
What "facts" are they teaching us now that aren't facts?
Don't know.

What "facts" is religion teaching you now, that it's been teaching for thousands of years, that aren't facts?

Fact is, if Christianity corrected itself, Christianity wouldn't exist.

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#671935 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I guess I am just a lot more optimistic than you are.
Is your glass half full or half empty?
I've always found that a strange question, because my glass is always full. Whether it's full of liquid or half-full of liquid and half full of air, it's always full.
Timn's post reflected optimism about the present.

Your reply didn't.

One's glass is never actually full of anything.

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#671936 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Cool phrase but I don't think that way, so...
But, you do think that way, so...

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#671937 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Stupid atheist question.
Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, Target, etc. Pretty much anywhere books are sold.
Doofus.
You "sell" the bible.

They retail it.

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#671938 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I had a nice, heart-warming dream about my dead dog last night.
Too bad I can't ever prove it to anyone.
Even though I had it.
Shucks.
Sorry to hear of your friend.

You dreams exist only in your head.

That's why you can't prove them to anyone.

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#671939 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It was science, you didn't even read your own link.
And it's a perfect example if new science trumping old science, turning a "fact" into a history page.
I wonder if, in 2,000 years, Einstein's theories will just be laughable history pages like Aristotle's are....
Whether it was science or not, science did it's job.

It's history.

RE: Einstein's theories...

People are working on proving them wrong right now. So far, they seem pretty reliable. Time will tell.

You religion is doing nothing toward that end but filling your glass with mostly bullsh!t.

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#671940 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're still not getting it.
In 2013, spontaneous generation is not fact.
In 0013, spontaneous generation considered a fact.
And it was taught as fact for nearly 2,000 years.
He gets it.

You don't.

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#671941 Nov 9, 2013
AverageGuy87 wrote:
Proof only applies to science while faith derives from wishful thinking
There is no such thing as "proof".

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#671942 Nov 9, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
You point is that science corrected itself.
Why can't religion do that?
Because it doesn't need correction.

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#671943 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The iPhone is functioning science & technology at work. I was pointing out flaws, like your just said...
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No. I'm showing you that scientific fact is not ways fact.
Spontaneous generation was a fact and it was taught as fact.
Even though it was never a fact.
THAT is the point and THAT is a huge flaw in science
So your suggestion is that we gain omnipotence before we teach anything? Nothing is taught as complete fact anyway - the entire point of a scientific career is to add to, refine, or otherwise change the body of knowledge.

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#671944 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Cool phrase but I don't think that way, so...
You don't think what "way?" You are actually of the opinion that if I say the earth is a sphere, and someone else says it's a hexagon, we are both equally wrong? Neither of us is closer to the truth? You have got to stop thinking in absolutes.

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#671945 Nov 9, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Timn's post reflected optimism about the present.
Your reply didn't.
One's glass is never actually full of anything.
So when the liquid's all gone there's a vacuum in the glass?

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#671946 Nov 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I had a nice, heart-warming dream about my dead dog last night.
Too bad I can't ever prove it to anyone.
Even though I had it.
Shucks.
Avoiding the question as usual.

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