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# Prove there's a god.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#671427 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Waaaayyyy fuggin' big; no one knows for sure how big. One estimate is 150 billion light years. Y'know what a light year is, right? The distance it takes light to travel in one year.
Light travels at 186,000 miles per second, okay? Multiply that by sixty seconds, and you'll get a light minute. Multiply *that* by sixty minutes, and you'll get a light hour. Multiply *that* by *24 hours,* and you get a light day. Multiply *that* by 365.25 days per year, and you'll get a light year.
Y'still with me?
Now, multiply *that* by 150 billion. And in all that space, with all those billions of planets and galaxies, nanoanalplug will tell you there is *no life ANYWHERE* but on our own little blue dot out here on the edge of the Milky Way.
In redneck terms, you'll never be able to skip a rock across it.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes I know. It was one of them there rhetorical questions.
As far as ET goes, the fact remains that it hasn't been discovered, so no matter how "sure" about it abound is, they can't say it's definitely out there.
And you can't say that it's not.

We *can* say that the chances for extra-terrestrial life are quite high.

An old joke: Do you know what the surest proof is of intelligent life out there in the universe? The fact that they have *not* tried to contact us.

"If we are alone in the universe, then it's an awful lot of wasted space." Dr. Carl Sagan

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#671428 Nov 6, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Mommy taught him at witch church that it was an honor to continue the family tradition of pretending to have power over the "spirits". It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. I'm still waiting to be struck down by one of Kaitlyn's wishspells. ;)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Maybe she hasn't figured out how to wiggle her nose right...
Nanoanalboy is about the last person on Earth you'd want to consult on the matter of witchcraft, wicca, paganism, etc. Or anything else, for that matter, that requires real thought.

People like him get their ideas of the craft (my nonna called it "the old ways") from "Bewitched," his church, and from Disney cartoons. I learned the Old Ways from my mom and her mother, who learned them from *their* ancestors; it's a matrilineal tradition. As I've said, I'm ninth generation. Stregheria dates back roughly to the time of the Etruscans. I'm not going to say *unchanged,* because things always change; look how far Christianity has evolved from *its* origins. It changes every time the bible is "reinterpreted" and revised, and republished.

Christians worship a savior; Pagans worship Nature as the divine, because everything came from Nature, and everything will eventually return to it.

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#671429 Nov 6, 2013
dimensionaldiver87 wrote:
okay......... in every molecule in your body, there is a part of Creator.... and without that piece of Creator in you.... you wouldn't exist, your dog, your house, everything around you would not be here, no, not even this Universe.......... the bible states this factoid perfectly.... fyi......
You mean, a creative force? I could agree with that.

A "creator," one with a personality, a goal, a desire, a purpose? Nuh uh.

As far as the bible is concerned, that and facts have never met.

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#671430 Nov 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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California isn't?
Arnold?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's still a state?
I thought it floated off to la la land sometime back. Quite a few of its residents fell off and landed in other states, though. That lightheadedness has a contagiousness about it, though.
California is still there, more or less. It's politicians are in the process of handing it over to Mexico. Which is gonna piss off the Koreans.

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#671431 Nov 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's why chicks buy them huge hoop earrings, Dave.
It's a resting place for their ankles...
I thought that was what Polish women wore behind their ears to attract men; their ankles.

That's one of my dad's jokes; he's such a scamp at times.

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UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

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#671432 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Bullshit. I can take a liberal stance on something without being an ideological liberal. The fact that you reject this proves your bigotry.
That's your bigotry. One can take a liberal stance on something without being a liberal ideologist.
I am also pro-gun; I am a firm supporter of the Second Amendment. Ideological liberals hate that, because they don't believe in armed resistance against (oppressive) government.
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Because I'm not.
Are you pro-choice? I am. Unlike you, I have a right to *DISAGREE* with some choices, but I support the right of people to make them.
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You are deplorably uneducated. English obviously is not your primary language, yet the liberal in you tells you that you have a right to tell me that I don't even know my own language, merely because I disagree with you.
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Said what? "Quoted text?"
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No.
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Yeah; people like you.
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And by virtue of your liberal ideology, everything you believe is "objective." Yeah, right.
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Because you say so, and you're an ideological liberal. I can't know anything, unless I agree with you.
You sound no different from waaasssuuup.
I'll give you an idea of where I'm coming from:
I'm an independent, both politically and intellectually. I am totally outside of the political mainstream, so I have few allies anywhere. Democrats and Republicansliberals and conservativesare equally guilty in demanding strict adherence to their respective and narrow-minded ideologies if people want to fit in with their groups. This is what YOU do.
To be a liberal, apparently, one *must* embrace the entire liberal ideology, with no exceptions; unrealistic radical environmentalist, anti-gun, pro-PETA and ACLU, pro-abortion, atheist/secular humanist...
To be a conservative, apparently, one *must* embrace the entire conservative ideology; evangelical christianity, a basic disregard for a clean environment, continued reliance on oil for the sake of the oil and automobile industries (because theyre so heavily involved in them), firearms ownership, anti-choice...
I refuse to embrace either ideology in its entirety just for the sake of getting into the club house where itll be nice and warm; Ill stay outside, even if its raining, and build my own club housewith building materials stolen from the dems and the repubs in the dead of night...
This is why I am pro Second Amendment. Surprised? My idea of gun control is a two-handed grip. My dads a retired United States Marine; so are his two brothers. He taught me and my sister how to stand up for ourselves, how to fight, and how to shoot. You obviously disapprove of this. Too bad.
Anyway, when it comes to gun control, you liberals are unconsciously the greatest ally that the fudies have. You will disarm not only yourselves, but everyone; the fundies will impose their religion on us through force of law and arms.
You are an idiot.
I for Pro-gun as defense but not for the Pro Big Guns - Assault weapons... What yo think?

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

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#671433 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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There are over 40,000 different brands of christianity, and they *all* claim to be the "one and only true" brand.
You're no different from them.
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> I can prove it. Why if you have read the bible don't you know that we are the true church of the bible, why don't you know this?
Because I know the bible is fulla crap.

40,000 DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS, SCOOTER, ALL CLAIMING TO BE THE "ONE AND ONLY."

I ask again: what makes *you* so different?

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UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

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#671434 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Bullshit. I can take a liberal stance on something without being an ideological liberal. The fact that you reject this proves your bigotry.
That's your bigotry. One can take a liberal stance on something without being a liberal ideologist.
I am also pro-gun; I am a firm supporter of the Second Amendment. Ideological liberals hate that, because they don't believe in armed resistance against (oppressive) government.
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Because I'm not.
Are you pro-choice? I am. Unlike you, I have a right to *DISAGREE* with some choices, but I support the right of people to make them.
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You are deplorably uneducated. English obviously is not your primary language, yet the liberal in you tells you that you have a right to tell me that I don't even know my own language, merely because I disagree with you.
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Said what? "Quoted text?"
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No.
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Yeah; people like you.
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And by virtue of your liberal ideology, everything you believe is "objective." Yeah, right.
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Because you say so, and you're an ideological liberal. I can't know anything, unless I agree with you.
You sound no different from waaasssuuup.
I'll give you an idea of where I'm coming from:
I'm an independent, both politically and intellectually. I am totally outside of the political mainstream, so I have few allies anywhere. Democrats and Republicansliberals and conservativesare equally guilty in demanding strict adherence to their respective and narrow-minded ideologies if people want to fit in with their groups. This is what YOU do.
To be a liberal, apparently, one *must* embrace the entire liberal ideology, with no exceptions; unrealistic radical environmentalist, anti-gun, pro-PETA and ACLU, pro-abortion, atheist/secular humanist...
To be a conservative, apparently, one *must* embrace the entire conservative ideology; evangelical christianity, a basic disregard for a clean environment, continued reliance on oil for the sake of the oil and automobile industries (because theyre so heavily involved in them), firearms ownership, anti-choice...
I refuse to embrace either ideology in its entirety just for the sake of getting into the club house where itll be nice and warm; Ill stay outside, even if its raining, and build my own club housewith building materials stolen from the dems and the repubs in the dead of night...
This is why I am pro Second Amendment. Surprised? My idea of gun control is a two-handed grip. My dads a retired United States Marine; so are his two brothers. He taught me and my sister how to stand up for ourselves, how to fight, and how to shoot. You obviously disapprove of this. Too bad.
Anyway, when it comes to gun control, you liberals are unconsciously the greatest ally that the fudies have. You will disarm not only yourselves, but everyone; the fundies will impose their religion on us through force of law and arms.
You are an idiot.
U got him on run! KUDO to you!:) AroOOOOoooooo! Dragon Wolf here!

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#671435 Nov 6, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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California is just soooo different from So Cal vs Nor Cal (or Left California) as I like to joke.....
California should be 2 states me thinks...
There are politicians in NorCal who want to do exactly that. It ain't gonna happen, though, because all the political power in in the south, and the south wants the north's water.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

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#671436 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You would rather have sucked Hitler's cock, then? You think you're so fucking morally superior because you're a wannabe sixties liberal?
You're an idiot, and a coward. You wouldn't even pick up a gun to defend your family, you want someone else to do your fighting for you.
Forum wrote:
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Yes, war is murder.
No it isn't. You're an idiot.
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>Let the police defend you.
It's not their job. Besides, there aren't enough cops to go around. I'll handle my own defense.
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>No one needs a gun. Run.
I have been the victim of crime. I need a gun. I will not run. I will defend myself and my loved ones.

Here's a suggestion for you: Put a sign in the middle of your front yard, proudly proclaiming, "This is a gun-free house." Be proud!

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#671437 Nov 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's still a state?
I thought it floated off to la la land sometime back. Quite a few of its residents fell off and landed in other states, though. That lightheadedness has a contagiousness about it, though.
Catcher1 wrote:
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There's a secession movement in several counties in northern California and Southern Oregon. They want to form their own state.
In the doubtful case it should succeed, I suggest they call their new state Calgon.
"Calgon...." (*...groan...*)

True fact, there *is* such a movement. Our area is too far removed from both Sacramento *and* Salem. We want to call our state Jefferson.

I doubt it'll happen.

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#671438 Nov 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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energy cannot be created nor destroyed
the universe exists, therefor it always has
alternatively:
the universe is here
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"therefor"?! lol
There is no non-circular proof of energy conservation.
Can energy be created? Some say no. Think about energy created from mass, how is that possible?
Have you ever rubbed your feet on a carpet and then touched a cat on the nose?

"Here, kitty kitty, kitty..."

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#671439 Nov 6, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Just as soon as you prove there is a god/deity like the purpose of this forum states.
Prove the universe hasn't always existed.
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Oh give me a break, you and I both know you can't prove how everything came to be. You can't prove Jesus doesn't exist, you can't prove there isn't life after death, you can't prove that God didn't create all,
You can't prove they did.
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> so why not pick up your bible and learn the truth,
Your bible has no truth, it's a book of lies and stolen mythologies.
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> because God makes a whole lot more sense than evolution ever will.
You don't believe in a god, you believe in a crappy book.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

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#671440 Nov 6, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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However you do seem to be advocating that the Christian (only) god is true, and in all of this forum no one (including you) has been able to offer any proof at all.
So, maybe this god you advocate is not real. No proof...no existence.
So why do you continue to believe in something that's obviously not real??
Over 2,000 years of absence of any evidence at all....maybe that is why so many people are turning away from religion.
DO YOU have any proof??
Trick question....I know you don't
thewordofme wrote:

Over 2,000 years of absence of any evidence at all....maybe that is why so many people are turning away from religion.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wrong. It started way back to Adam & Eve, god spoke to them. And the billions and billions of other people from them to now, including myself.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>That may not be evidence for your eyes, but it is to mine.
That makes you kinda gullible and naive.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text> Do you think the universe has always existed?
Nooooope.

The movement of the galaxies, as obverved through the Hubble Telescope and others, indicates expansion from a central point.

According to my tradition's myth, the Goddess first emerged from the darkness and the void; she was alone, and lonely. So she split herself into two, male and female.

And then they had wild and crazy, heaving and sweaty, raw and unrestrained sex, and the resulting cosmic orgasm was the explosion that created the universe.

It ain't called the Big Bang for nothin'.

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#671441 Nov 6, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>I for Pro-gun as defense but not for the Pro Big Guns - Assault weapons... What yo think?
Personally, I don't like guns.

They're not friendly.

:)

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#671442 Nov 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Fine.
Don't ever murder a fly again.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Taking a human life is taking a human life. The only exception would be a legitimate case of defense.
So where do you stand on abortion?

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#671443 Nov 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
I gather you've noticed that li'l timmy has certain psychological issues. Short-term memory, & like that.
It's like he claims that he's told me the name of that "blatant GOP propagandist" who works as a reporter for Fox News, and he claims that he can show me where he has done so several times--yet he won't just give me the friggin' name.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I have told you several times that if you agree to eat some crow I will take the time to go back and find every instance where I either told you a name or referenced one of my previous posts.
Why not just give the name, here and now?

Waaasssuuup never answers a direct question, either. Are you two related?

You know goddamn well you have never given that name. Your refusal to answer is proof that I'm right; this is just a dodge.

Eat crow yourself.

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#671444 Nov 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Personally, I don't like guns.
They're not friendly.
:)
Personly i with you on that but gun should be use as last line of self defense against the real bad guys? AlternativeS?

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#671445 Nov 6, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>I for Pro-gun as defense but not for the Pro Big Guns - Assault weapons... What yo think?
The muzzle loader was the "assault rifle" of its day.

The liberal lamestream media does not know what an assault rifle is, so I will provide that information for you from a former member of the Defense Department (my dad, a retired Marine):

An assault rifle is one that is capable of semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. It has a selector switch. Semiauto fire is one round fired off with each squeeze of the trigger; full auto is spraying while holding down the trigger.

The weapons available to the public are not capable of fully automatic fire; therefore, they are not--NOT--assault rifles. They are military-styled, semi-automatic rifles. I own one, and I'm keeping it. The Constitution says I can.

I also own two semiauto handguns. As a crime victim, I am very much pro-gun.

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#671446 Nov 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try again.
with all the straw-men you put up, one would think you are familiar.

you are just exercising your christian frame of mind

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