Prove there's a god.
Pat

East Granby, CT

#669658 Nov 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, God does not *poof* away my problems. If He did, my mother-in-law wouldn't have died.
I prayed and prayed and prayed, I begged God to help her to heal.
She died.
That prayer was answered, God said "No".
I don't understand why, but I trust Him and I know His purposes are more important than mine.
Explain the difference between a prayer not being answered and one where the answer is no?

Explain why you think you have the ability to send silent telepathic messages and why you believing that you have such powers should not be considered delusional.

Since: Jun 13

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#669659 Nov 1, 2013
Clark Griswold wrote:
<quoted text>As to see you Cletch. So... you happen to notice your ex-quarterback is 8 and 0 right now? And is it me or does Colin Kaepernick kind of resemble one of those hairless cats? Sorry, I'm not a 49ers fan. Can't stand Harbaugh, and it's also due to the 49ers long standing habit of destroying the Bears.
Can't stand Harbaugh, cocky SOB

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669660 Nov 1, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"you have great faith in my messengers, my daughter!" - satan the lying loser-dork
Translation: "I'm so desperate, now I'm reduced to making up stupid quotes from my imaginary friends."

And "satan" really is your best friend, because without him you got nothin'.

Jerkwad.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669661 Nov 1, 2013
Pat wrote:
How is a baby born blind and retarded at fault? The only one to blame there is your creator god, no? Is he unable or unwilling to prevent birth defects? Does your god like unjust suffering? Nature is proof positive that if there is a god he has no liking for either fairness or love.
This is a perfect example of atheists blaming God for everything negative.

No, God is not responsible for the birth defect, humans are.

God made man perfect, man's gone and f_ckered that all up.

Man has done nothing but abuse and pollute our bodies for thousands of years. Genetically, that takes it toll. That's our fault, not His.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#669662 Nov 1, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, it was lame the first time you posted it.

Now its lame and repetitive.
It's proof

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669663 Nov 1, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"hahahah....well done my lil punk dweeb! keep it up and we shall dwell together forever where we deserve to be!" - satan, your strict task master-pimp
You've snapped. The pressure is too much for you. You should leave.

Or you can stick around and continue making the rest of us laugh at you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669664 Nov 1, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds Pagan, not christian. Paganism is very propitiatory; that means, if we do something nice for the Gods, the Gods will do something nice for us. You just described your god the same way.
I was under the impression that your jeesusgod--make that,*the* jeesusgod--loved everyone, and wanted all to come to him.
That's perfect, because He does want that.

But it seems too many of y'all won't go to God, you're waiting for God to come to you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669665 Nov 1, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Then it should be easy to prove.
Go.
Rev Anal said God was a short lived theory, not me.

Ask him.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669666 Nov 1, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there good grounds to believe the person does not have hands?Typical disingenuous theist is all you are.
No, of course not. I believe he has hands, and you, and Kait, and everyone here.

Just tryin to figure out how to prove it here.

You are the one who loves evidence, but you take it on faith that he has hands.

Imagine that.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669667 Nov 1, 2013
Clark Griswold wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoa, are you suggesting that there are actually contradictions in the bible?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
There aren't any.....
What are these?

Self-Contradictions of the Bible that Christians Say Don’t Exist:
Genealogy of Jesus:

Matthew 1:1-16 Twenty-eight generations from King David to Jesus
Luke 3: 23-31 Forty-three generations from King David to Jesus

The Last Words of Jesus, according to the “first hand witnesses” that Christians claim are real and accurate, and therefore irrefutable:

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, E’li, E’li, la’ma sa-bach’tha-ni? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
(Matthew 27: 46)

(By the way; if Jesus was God, and therefore was in control of all events, and if he actually chose to die on the cross, why did he ask that question up there?

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
(John 19:30)
Luke 23:46–“And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said,‘Father, into thy hands I commit my Spirit.’ And having said this, he breathed his last.”

Which is it?

Or are these (heee heee heee!!) "taken out of context?"

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669668 Nov 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
There aren't any. Rev Anal is the king of cherry-picking and quote mining.
Stick around and you'll see that.
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartialPs 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
13. God is to be found by those who seek him
Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
God is not to be found by those who seek him
Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike
Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
God is peaceful
Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8

16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
sacrifices, and holy days.
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
18. God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men
Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
God tempts no man
James 1:13
20. God cannot lie
Heb 6:18
God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9

21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.
Rom 1:20
God's attributes cannot be discovered
Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
23. There is but one God
Deut 6:4
There is a plurality of gods
Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7

Then I guess all these don't exist.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669669 Nov 1, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you refuse to do what Jesus commands of you? Do you think your blatant refusal helps convince normal people to abandon their reason and become a pew warmer?
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks for your concern, but Jesus and i are as tight as tight can be!
now - what about YOU and how are YOU doing with them commandments?!
We know *you* break at least half of them here every day, but then you told *me* that jesus allows you to do that 'cause you're all forgiven and everything.

You're a fucking hypocrite.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#669670 Nov 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, I read 2-7 again.
Dunno what you find so funny.
And THAT is precisely what's funny.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669671 Nov 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Another belief.
Not one I share.
Satan or demons cannot control our minds.
Your sincere brother in jesus waaasssuuup disagrees with you.

You two should talk.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669672 Nov 1, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Haha. Of course they do. The child bombed into oblivion by an errant cruise missile had it coming.
Blame Obama; he had the latest one fired.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669673 Nov 1, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
What more is there than the physical?
The abstract.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#669675 Nov 1, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
What about evil spirits?
"it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him" (1 Sam. 16:23).
"it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul...." (1 Sam. 18:10).
"the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul...." (1 Sam. 19:9).
"Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles thee" (1 Sam. 16:15).
"the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubles him" (1 Sam. 16:14).
"...evil came down from the Lord unto the gate of Jerusalem" (Micah 1:12).
"Thus saith the Lord, Behold I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou did it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun" (2 Sam. 12:11-12).
"God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem...." (Judges 9:23).
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Rev Anal: "I am Reverend Anal, I don't believe a single word of the Bible but I'll still quote it more than anyone, ever. That way I don't have to ask a single question or face a single debate."
What, you don't like Reverend Alan using your bible against itself?

Thomas Paine did the same thing in his "Age of Reason." I'll bet you never read that one, either. The bible is its own greatest weapon *against* itlself.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669676 Nov 1, 2013
Pat wrote:

Explain the difference between a prayer not being answered and one where the answer is no?
The new age intellectual and their dumb ass questions.

Child: "can I have a pony?"
Dad: "no"

Answered.

What would be a non-answer:

Child: "can I have a pony?"
Dad: "..."
Child: "dad?"
Dad: "..."
Explain why you think you have the ability to send silent telepathic messages and why you believing that you have such powers should not be considered delusional.
I don't think that, so.....

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#669677 Nov 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, God does not *poof* away my problems. If He did, my mother-in-law wouldn't have died.
I prayed and prayed and prayed, I begged God to help her to heal.
She died.
That prayer was answered, God said "No".
I don't understand why, but I trust Him and I know His purposes are more important than mine.
This post is perfect to show what a dummy you are.

God "answers" prayers. Sometimes his answer is "no."

What's the difference between a "no" and a failure to answer?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#669678 Nov 1, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
What are these?
Self-Contradictions of the Bible that Christians Say Don’t Exist:
Genealogy of Jesus:
Matthew 1:1-16 Twenty-eight generations from King David to Jesus
Luke 3: 23-31 Forty-three generations from King David to Jesus
Ugh. You skeptics make me laugh. Yes, they are taken out of context. This has been answered for over a thousand years, yet you still ask.

"First, Matthew reported the lineage of Christ only back to Abraham; Luke traced it all the way back to Adam. Second, Matthew used the expression “begat;” Luke used the expression “son of,” which results in his list being a complete reversal of Matthew’s. Third, the two genealogical lines parallel each other from Abraham to David. Fourth, beginning with David, Matthew traced the paternal line of descent through Solomon; Luke traced the maternal line through Solomon’s brother, Nathan."

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