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#666296 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
....but wassie will just tell you that you're a tool of satan. Wassie has *all* the answers, y'know,'cause he's got "de holey spirit o' jeeeeebus" in him.
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Because you're a fucking liar, a delusional tool, a flaming hypocrite who refuses to practice what he preaches, and just plain creepy.
What age of children do you fantasize about?
"What age of children do you fantasize about?"

what age are you and steph? ya hafta be at least legal, what with your matching landing strips and all....;)

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#666297 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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I don't like being lied to, either by liberals or conservatives, republicans or democrats, or christians or atheists. I get tired of having to repeat myself to people who sit and stare, dull-eyed and slack-jawed, who finally look up from their stupor to ask, "Duh, what did you say?"
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Dolce Madre di Dio, prega di lasciare che questo essere inteso...
There was this middle-aged dude named Juan Williams; a black dude, who worked for NPR for about a million years, as a commentator.
One day, he said in a conversation ON NPR,IN WHOSE EMPLOY HE WAS AT THE TIME, about how uncomfortable he had been in having to share a flight one day with a bunch of Arabs, shortly after the terrorist attacks on 9-11. He said he couldn't help it, but he felt obliged to be honest about it. People all over the country were afraid at that time; and he was too, okay? Are you with me so far, timmy?
For making these remarks, for speaking in public about these fears that so many Americans rightfully shared, the freedom of speech proponents of National Public Radio and Pacifica ***FIRED HIM!!!*** They even called him a racist; I'll bet that was the first time in their entire fucking history that NPR/Pacifica ever called a *black* man racist.
Are you still with me, timmy? Wake up, and pay attention.
He was fired by these champions of Free Speech for honestly voicing a concern that was shared by thousands.
Sean Hannity, a commentator for Fox News, personally contacted Williams, and invited him to come onto his program so he could tell his side of the story. Capisce?
So Williams said, "Okay." And he told America exactly what happened.
As a result, Fox hired him as a commentator and news consultant. He's been with them ever since. And for that I say, "Good on ya, Fox!"
Have I mentioned that Dennis Miller, of "Saturday Night Live," is a weekly regular on Bill O'Reilly? Lately, I have come to hate O'Reilly so much that not even Miller can get me to watch him again.
Fox is not the pack of screaming, frothing, right-wing zealots that you want to believe they are; they are far more fair and honest than the other networks. Even Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have shown up a time or two.
First of all, he was actually a commentator on fox before this incident. So no, fox was not the white knight swooping in to rescue him. Second of all, I believe he made the comment while speaking on another program, which is different than speaking on NPR. I doubt they offer the same freedoms to their employees while they are speaking as guests as opposed to when they are on their own programs.

Third, yes, I understand the situation. You do not have to repeat yourself for the hundredth time. My only question to you is - did NPR have a history of allowing their people to go onto another show and say literally whatever they wanted? NPR says he violated their rules. Given the context of the situation, I think that he was partially fired for making a racist comment and partially fired for saying it on another program. Whether or not it was "right" to fire him, I'm not sure, because he does have the right to say whatever he wants, but at the same time he, as a media personality, has a responsibility to behave himself, especially when representing NPR on another program. Similar situations exist, and I don't see you crying foul about them. Also, weren't you just accusing "liberals" of screaming "free speech" at everyone to justify their arguments? That's what your entire argument boils down to - repeatedly appealing to free speech while ignoring the context, his responsibilities as an employee, and what free speech actually means.

Your appeal to "everyone's feelings" is dishonest and meaningless - whether or not everyone feels scared when they see a turban (I, for one, do not, because my mother did not drink alcohol while I was in the womb) has no bearing on whether or not he was right to voice his concerns.

“let's do this thang!”

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#666298 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Debate is an intellectual process; since you hold nothing but disdain and contempt for the intellect, as you've told us before, it is obvious that you are not here to 'debate,' but rather to proselytize and demand fealty.
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You *can't* answer me. You know I'm right, you know you are wrong, and we both know you're a hypocrite. You demand that everyone practice what you preach, yet you won't do it yourself.
That's what makes you a hypocrite.
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You have answered NOTHING, you f*ckin' liar. Jesus *fuck* you have no shame!!
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THERE ISN'T ANY. That shit in your imagination doesn't count.
Deal with it.
KIDS - THIS is what your brain looks like when on devils!

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#666299 Oct 22, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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hahah your words really encourage me to talk more ,thus I am going to bring a new proof specially to you since you didnt like the spiders story, lets talk about another insect "ants for instance "
watch this interesting movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UEGPOaAilvcXX
So you're telling me that mohammed had seen an ant hill in his lifetime? That's it, you have yourself a new convert. Sign me up.

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#666300 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Gimme money.
Socialism is good, you say? Then redistribute some of your wealth my way. I want a new car and a new stereo, and I need new health care since my boss can't afford it and had to cut me to 30 hours a week. Now I'm forced to buy something that I can't even access over the internet, and if I don't buy it I'll be punished.
As someone who's being forced into socialism, I'm entitled to some of your money.
Now, gimme.
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I said, gimme money. I'm entitled to it. Redistribute some of your wealth my way, because I'm entitled to it and I need it. I can't even afford my own health insurance, thanks to your buddy Nobama; now, live up to your socialist standard and gimme your money.
Stop flailing.

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#666301 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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We are as different as night and day; I'm the one who believes in honesty and the truth. You follow a book of lies, and your own warped sexual desires.
Keep your hands off of the children.
"and your own warped sexual desires"

LMAO!!!:)

KIDS - THIS is the sole agenda of the LGBTF community; to make the perverse seem right and the straight wrong!

BTW - there has been negotiations among the community members and they're officially going to bump the f-smearers up one and the bi's down 2 because they're so controversial to 'the cause'. please refer to them this way from henceforth:

LGTFB

“let's do this thang!”

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#666302 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Is that what you *really* do??
Eewww!!!
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"All acts of love gain favor with the Goddess." ~ Gospel of Aradia
"Love is never wrong." ~ Melissa Etheridge
I understand your disdain for that; after all, it's antichrist.
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Really, wassie, you credit me with too much power.
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No it isn't. There is no love in your filthy fucking book of lies.
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And that is why you lust after me.
i'm starting to forget what you even look like so you better do something about it if you want me to keep lusting after you......just say'n!

“let's do this thang!”

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#666303 Oct 22, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Double Fine wrote:
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You think lesbians are perverted?
"The only thing more beautiful than two boobies, are four boobies" - The Creator, Double Fine
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I was looking for a new-world definition of the word 'pervert,' and I found a picture of you.
if you're not doing anything for halloween, i know of a good f-smearing party going on......

“"None shall pass"”

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There

#666304 Oct 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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listen here, landing strip;...
WoW! You proved yourself a liar in two consecutive posts!

"you're doing all the insulting and hating." - Waaaasssuup

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#666305 Oct 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So you're telling me that mohammed had seen an ant hill in his lifetime? That's it, you have yourself a new convert. Sign me up.
No man, but it was mentioned in a verse "Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not. So [Solomon] smiled, amused at her speech, and said, My Lord, enable me to be grateful for Your favor which You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents and to do righteousness of which You approve. And admit me by Your mercy into [the ranks of] Your righteous servants."(The Noble Quran; An-Naml: 18-19)

Who said Mohammed saw an ant hill during his lifetime ?!!! you cant even understand a simple verse yet you want me to bring you proofs, I started to feel if anyone of us in here brought you a proof, you wont be able to understand it.

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#666306 Oct 22, 2013
[QUOTE who - Kaitlin the Wolf Witch] <quoted text> Fox is not the pack of screaming, frothing, right-wing zealots that you want to believe they are; they are far more fair and honest than the other networks. Even Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have shown up a time or two.[/QUOTE]Oh my goodness. Like fox if you want, but "fair and honest?" That'd be like me calling msnbc mostly conservative.
Nick

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#666307 Oct 22, 2013
Jesus loves me

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#666308 Oct 22, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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No man, but it was mentioned in a verse "Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not. So [Solomon] smiled, amused at her speech, and said, My Lord, enable me to be grateful for Your favor which You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents and to do righteousness of which You approve. And admit me by Your mercy into [the ranks of] Your righteous servants."(The Noble Quran; An-Naml: 18-19)
Who said Mohammed saw an ant hill during his lifetime ?!!! you cant even understand a simple verse yet you want me to bring you proofs, I started to feel if anyone of us in here brought you a proof, you wont be able to understand it.
Again, my friend, an insult from you is the highest form of compliment. Poe.

Plenty of animals have languages, and plenty (maybe all) myths feature talking animals. Your argument is as stupid as someone pointing to a talking dog in aesop's fables as "proof," since dogs bark.

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#666309 Oct 22, 2013
Nick wrote:
Jesus loves me
And this you know?

Is that because the bible tells you so?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

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#666310 Oct 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2011/04/battery-ocean-salt water/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
Hard to say what Orichalcum was, but was likely to be an existing metal element that the process for economical extracting was not known by the Old World. Even in the time of Louis 14 aluminum was more valuable than gold.
Electricity has been around forever, and has been utilized to some degree according to the developed understanding of and technologies to produce. Urek petting his pet saberetooth in the cold dry air discovered electricity. Him and some of his descendants developed means to produce and channel it to differing degrees. Ancient megaliths were a method. They were taps into the telluric currents. They didn't run electric drills with it, but they could energize an area in a Tesla coil sort of way. That energy was a catalyst for growth and change in the environment. Things don't grow so well in static environments. You have to energize those atoms to get them off their ass and do something. That is where your Baal gods came from. They were all local gods. These energy transfer gods were then extended to the cosmos by monotheism. Understand they didn't have the same understanding of physical processes we have today. It took a devout Christian named Faraday with intuition to develop a greater understanding of it, then another named Maxwell to codify it for math based physics. From there we are here.
Your entire physical existence is based upon principles of EM. Every single tiny bit of it. It is that attraction and repulsion down to the atomic level, bipolarity, that has put everything together and makes it move. And "think".
The nature of electricity requires it to be generated in some form. From a single source almost countless branch circuits can be created to do work, such as living and existing. But that energy is always returned to the source, which is a discontinuity in the flow that caused that existence on a polar level. That flow gets recycled through the source. Not only the flow, but the patterns of it.
The BBT is a view we developed as a part of these branch circuits looking back at the origination of our energy and thus existence. As I mentioned, that first cause had to be generated. Your thinking and consciousness on this physical level is pure product of that generation. It too is a sort of filter within this much larger circuit that somehow gave us the thoughts we are intelligent.
What you need to ask yourself is if a part of you is peeking through this physical filter. Do you feel there is something more to you than Roomba reaction to stimulus?
That will be part of the pattern when you get returned to that great battery in the sky.
<The Dave Nelson> "Personally. I worship my Waring Blender™... It's sooo electric.."

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#666312 Oct 22, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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WoW! You proved yourself a liar in two consecutive posts!
"you're doing all the insulting and hating." - Waaaasssuup
whatever - thread monitor dork!

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Muncie, IN

#666313 Oct 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
I'm pretty good at figuring things out on the fly, plus I have learned even the scholarly ones make mistakes. Plus every generation of scholars has to make their name for themselves by revising the history and theories of their predecessors. Second guessing is an inherent characteristic of mankind. Therefore you are an idiot if you believe everything you were taught is the absolute truth. I do believe in most applied sciences and the physical laws as I have experience in some of them. However, I have discovered there is some latitude in the causation of some of those processes. And processes is what they are.
Myths are smoke, but something created that smoke. The years are irrelevant to me if you had read my personal take on this existence and how it operates for the last almost three years. I am entitled to do my second guessing like everyone else based upon my experience and knowledge. Things ain't what they appear to be.
Now, in the following you will see that the Athenians reclaimed the territory, which was in Africa. Then they had earthquakes and got drowned. About the same time Atlantis drowned. So something significant happened. That was a rather large area. Also, there is much reference in ancient texts to the Sea Peoples and their invasions, yet the scholars of today can't identify just who the Sea Peoples were. Just guesses based upon fragments of knowledge. Keep an open mind. I had to cut your post to make room for response.
(edited for space)
Mythology proves nothing. Mythology does not prove that anything significant happened (like you are saying) any more than it proves that a pantheon of gods live on Mt. Olympus. Mythology does not have to be based on any real events or even remotely related to any real events like you are implying. It *can* be based on some real event, but does not have to be.

Mythology served a myriad of purposes, from attempting to explain the natural world, to reinforcing pride and morale in one's nation of people, to relaying cultural norms and mores, to giving people a sense of purpose in the often unpredictable world. Whether or not that mythology was based on any real-world events was not important.

Now, I can totally accept that the story of Atlantis might be inspired by some real-world event, like you proposed except without the dramatic nonsense you are adding to it. Similarly, the story of the Trojan War is likely to have been inspired by a real event; same for the Deluge story. There is no evidence of the dramatic, cataclysmic events told in those stories as they exist in the mythology, though. Stories get embellished over time, especially when transmitted through the oral tradition, and details added to adapt the story to local and current stories and traditions and to amaze listeners.
This still happens today, in the entertainment industry - for instance, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

That being said, what you are doing is trying to disregard Earth science, disregard what is observed, and disregard what is known in order to squeeze your dramatic story of Atlantis in there somewhere. It is one thing to say that a mythical story is (or might be) based on a real event, but it is another thing completely to say that what we observe is an illusion in order to give credence to that assertion.

Since: May 07

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#666314 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Exactly.
Se when he talks about the "Christus", why do you question who he's in reference to?
It is not referencing any particular "who." It is simply referring to the title of a group of worshipers and the name of their idol of worship.
You are shoving a name into the place of this title and hoping nobody notices. You are being dishonest, RR.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
A horrible analogy.
It is the same exact thing you are doing!
This also means that you recognize where your own error lies.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
In your own words:
"Chrestus" is a title, though, and not a name. It is a title of the idol worshiped by early Christians and at the center of Christian mythology." That's not vague at all.
...but that still does not place the name "Jesus" into the place of this worshiped idol. When the name "Jesus" became uniquely and popularly identified with the title "Christ" is not known; at this time period, remember, there were many people claiming to be "the Christ."
This paragraph is evidence of Christians.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
LOL, okeee.
"Chrestus" is a title, though, and not a name. It is a title of the idol worshiped by early Christians and at the center of Christian mythology.
That surely doesn't refer to Jesus, right? "the center of Christian mythology"....
NAH!
Why would it be referring to Jesus?
If that were the case, the paragraph would have said "Jesus" instead of "Chrestus." Yet, alas, it says "Chrestus."
That is because this paragraph is evidence of a cult/religious group known as "Chrestians."

Your imaginary friend is based on mythology, RR, not a real person.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

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#666315 Oct 22, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You wrote that not me. I know because it is not proper English, it is the English of a pew warmer.
What I love is quoting the Bible.
"So the sisters sent word to Jesus,“Lord, the one you love is sick." (John 11: 3).
Just liked Jesus loved Lazarus.
"And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him,‘Son of David, have mercy on me.’ But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near, Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightaway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb, they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do, and in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan.”
Was that mystery of the Kingdom of God anal sex?
You love quoting the Bible, unfortunately you don't understand it. Not one bit. Just because you have homosexual tendencies and also because you have anal tendencies it doesn't make your stupid statement correct. its still wrong to include the non cannonical secret gospel of Mark as part of the Bible. Didn't you know that the "secret Gospel of Mark" was a hoax? Or are you still being deceitful again Alan?

You are viewing the relationships in the Bible through jaundiced western eyes. In the ancient East and even today, affectionate displays are typical on that side of the world and well publicized (remember all the news clips of Arab and Middle Eastern leaders kissing each other on the cheek?)

You truly are the "ugly American" uninformed and bumbling through the Bible, quoting verses with out the bare basics or understandings of the eastern culture of the time.

Keep on showing how inept you are Alan. You keep accusing me of trying to show how ignorant you are. I don't have to do anything or even lift a finger.

You're doing a perfectly damn fine job on your own showcasing your ineptness Alan.

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#666316 Oct 22, 2013
Apsu wrote:
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timn17 wrote:
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Just Think wrote:
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Igor Trip wrote:
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THE BIRTH OF A HUMAN BEING

Many diverse subjects are mentioned in the Qur'an while also inviting people to believe. Sometimes the heavens, sometimes animals, and sometimes plants are mentioned as evidence of Allah's existence. In many of these verses, people are called upon to consider their own creation. They are often reminded how man came into the world, which stages he has passed through, and what his essence is:

-It is We Who have created you. Why, then, do you not accept the truth? Have you ever considered that [seed] which you emit? Is it you who create it? Or are We the Creator?(Qur'an, 56:57-59)

-Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled [without purpose]? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen?(Qur'an, 75:36-37)

-We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing.(Qur'an, 76:2)

-He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then He made his progeny from an extract of discarded fluid.(Qur'an, 32:7-8)
-He has created both sexes, male and female from a drop of semen which has been ejected.(Qur'an, 53:45-46)
-Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm, then a blood-clot which He created and shaped, making from it both sexes, male and female?(Qur'an, 75:37-39)

-[We] then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!(Qur'an, 23:14)

-... He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate?(Qur'an, 39:6)

..!!this time we are doing it differently, I want all of you to try to explain the versus up here in this reply, I don't want anybody to come claim that I added a word or a fact, so lets go and see how these versus can possibly be explained by you, remember that the Quran encourage the people to think, use their minds and observe everything around them.

I will be waiting your explanations, please lets commit some scientific integrity and try to explain those versus objectively and Accurately , reading the Quran is different than reading any book you have to pay attention to he very specific details

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