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Abraham is a prophet who was sent by the creator to show people the right path.
And you can prove that wholly unconvincing assertion?

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"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,--flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God.... Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry any but a woman similarly guilty, or an unbeliever...." [24:2-4]

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what kind of proofs would you accept ?! I asked this question to many atheists, but still didn't get a proper answer
Ask God to help you prove he exists.

"The Arabs of the dessert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which God hath sent down to His Apostle...."[9:97]

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how about a 1600 years old book from the creator with some scientific miracles and accurate measurements for things were unknown at the time of revelation and was proved recently by the modern science ?! would you accept that ?!
"And they (Jews and Christians) say:'None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.' Those are their (vain) desires. Say:'Produce your proof if ye are truthful.' Nay,--whoever submits his whole self to God and is a doer of good,--he will get his reward with his Lord.... The Jews say:'Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say:'The Jew have naught (to stand) upon.' Yet they (profess to) study the same book.... But God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgement." [2:111-113]

Muslims need a course in biblical theology, since Jews give no credence to the NT. By no means do they study the same book.

"Never will the Jews or Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say:'The Guidance of God,--that is the only Guidance.' Were thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldest thou find neither Protector nor Helper against God.'[2:120] "And they say: Be Jews or Christians, then ye will be rightly guided. Say: Nay, but (we follow) the religion of Abraham the upright, and he was not of the idolaters." [2:135]

Muslims are not only failing to note Abraham also holds a position of great importance in Judaism but implying that Judaism and Christianity are attached to idolatry.

"This day have I perfected your religion...and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." [5:3] "Both the Jews and the Christians say:'We are sons of God, and His beloved.' Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins?" [5:18]

For Muslims to allege others are being punished for their sins is not worthy of serious consideration in light of conditions in Muslim areas of the world today. They are among those most steeped in agony, ignorance, superstition, and deprivation.

"Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other."[5:51]

If this verse does not contradict 54:82, then it displays an insolent ingratitude on the part of Muslims towards Christians. Moreover, for Muslims to assert that Jews and Christians are friends and protectors of one another is to reveal an appalling ignorance of historical events. All too often they have been barely able to stomach one another's presence. To those who reject our Signs and treat them with arrogance, no opening will there be of the gates of heaven, nor will they enter the Garden, until the camel pass through the eye of the needle,"[7:40]

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No comment..!!
Do the Christians know what you believe about them?

"Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other."[5:51]

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They don't have answers. They are just boils begging for attention. Nice words and reason don't work on them.
Dave, Dave, Dave. Perhaps if you had some better answers they might get some consideration. Try not posting any more unverifiable assertions and see what happens. This posturing you enjoy so much is just plain boring.

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as I told the other guys who were asking for proofs, what would you accept as a proof ?!, some agreed that a 1600 years old book with scientific miracles was proved by modern science can be accepted as profs, if yes you are welcome to check some of those scientific miracles i will be writing in the next 2 days.
Koran on Jesus:

"That they said (in boast),'We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God';--But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them...for of a surety they killed him not." [4:157] Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the Cross.

"Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which he bestowed on Mary...." [4:171]
"And behold! I (God) did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee (Jesus) when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said:'This is nothing but evident magic'." [5:110] In light of the fact that God did not protect Jesus from the Jews, this statement is false.

"But she pointed to the babe. They said:'How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?' He said:'I am indeed a servant of God: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet.... Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary:(it is) a statement of truth...." [19:29-30].
Christian miracles are matched by Koranic miracles. Imagine a baby speaking in the cradle right after birth!.

"When (Jesus) the son of Mary is quoted as an example, behold! the folk laugh out,...he is nothing but a slave on whom We bestowed favour...." (The Glorious Quran by Marmaduke Pickthall [43:57, 59]
"We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel...." [57:27]
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said,'O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." [61:6].(See Also: 2:253, 23:50, 33:7)

It would be interesting to know where one could find a statement by Jesus that he would be followed by Ahmad, whom Muslims consider to be Mohammed.

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"When (Jesus) the son of Mary is quoted as an example, behold! the folk laugh out,...he is nothing but a slave on whom We bestowed favour...." (The Glorious Quran by Marmaduke Pickthall [43:57, 59]
"We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel...." [57:27]
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said,'O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." [61:6].(See Also: 2:253, 23:50, 33:7)

It would be interesting to know where one could find a statement by Jesus that he would be followed by Ahmad, whom Muslims consider to be Mohammed.

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Just Think wrote:
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Well that was...random.
mmm.. maybe it was Random, But if you read it carefully, you will notice that this fact of spiders was told 1600 years ago, when humans didn't have any microscopes or hardly any science, specially in Mekkah and middle east, that's why so many of the Phrases in the Holy Quran was proved many centuries after the death of Mohammed and by the continual improvement of science .

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"he never existed..."
saying things like this is why i'll never respect you or take you serioulsy in a debate regarding these issues. it's why i don't attempt to answer your questions but just keep things to a faux-flirtatious level;)
You might get some respect if instead of posturing you provided some proof for the existence of Jesus instead of pretending you have answers but chose not to share them because your ass hole is too tight. If you had any answers you would post them. The fact that you do not post them proves they do not exist.

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Catcher1 wrote:
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I know what he told you.
"Get back in your trailer, white trash."
Then he said, "Amen."
And in Trashese, I say to you, "gotsta go."
Hello, fellow racist.

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<quoted text>How do you know it was god? Because he said so?
And let's say it was your god.
That's still not proof because you can't prove that your god spoke to you.
"Proof" of "some kind" to you maybe- certainly not any kind of proof to anyone else.
Sorry for your luck.
Rev Anal said there's no proof of 'any' kind.

He's wrong.

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Sure...however, before you post anything, you do realize you have to prove that "the creator" wrote the book.
You'll do that first, right?
Based on his behaviour so far he will continue to preach and we'll never see any proof of anything except that he has no proof. Muslims love to just gloss over the part about proving their holy book was written by God. Normally they just kill you should you question it.

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So limited.
An object made or shaped by human hand.
(archaeology) An object, such as a tool, weapon or ornament, of archaeological or historical interest, especially such an object found at an archaeological excavation.
The dig produced many Roman artifacts.
Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element. &#8195;
An object made or shaped by some agent or intelligence, not necessarily of direct human origin.
Thank you.

Artifact indeed.....

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"But God hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe." [4:46]

"To the Jews We prohibited such things as We have mentioned to thee before...." [16:118]

"These (Israelites) are but a small band.... So we expelled them from gardens, springs, treasures, and every kind of honourable position...." [26:55, 58-59]

"Say: O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to God, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful." [62:6]

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I don't appreciate your ignorant name calling. That was uncalled for.
If I had a dollar for every time you called me an ignorant name...

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<quoted text>So if I tell you that Queen Elizabeth stopped over today for tea and crumpets and spoke to me, that would be proof of "some kind" that what I claimed was actually fact?
More than what YOU claim is proof of "some kind", for at least the existence of Queen Elizabeth can be proven.
So....if I tell you that ANY mythological being has spoken to me, you will accept that as proof of "some kind"?
I don't give a shit if Elizabeth came to your house.

I don't give a shit if you two took a trip to Alpha Centauri and got tattoos.

You'd never find me discussing it like you do God.

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the book itself will prove that its word's god , but I didnt say god wrote it, god sent it through an angel to a man who couldn't read or write.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster says that is not true. And the Tooth Fairy agrees that it is not true.

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<quoted text>Yeah- the Clinton Administration screwed everything up according to some really screwy folks....
Some highlights of the Clinton years:
During Clinton's presidency, 22.5 million new jobs were created and unemployment dropped from 7.5% when he took office to 4.0% by the end of his second term, the lowest in 30 years.
In 1993, President Clinton signed the Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA), which allows eligible employees to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for childbirth, adoption, foster care, to care for a child, parent, or spouse with a serious medical condition, or if the employee themselves has serious medical condition.
Started COBRA- the Consolidated Omnibus Reconciliation Act which allowed employees to stay on employer sponsored insurance for 18 months after leaving or being dismissed from a job.
Under Clinton, the United States had a projected federal budget surplus for the first time since 1969 in the 1998 federal budget; the budgets for 1999, 2000, and 2001 also had surpluses.
Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating- the highest end-of-term approval rating of any President since Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Yeah- the Clinton Administration really screwed things up.....that's why he left office with a 65% approval rating.
<major eye roll here>
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the highest end-of-term approval rating of any President since Dwight D. Eisenhower
Lol

Reagan and Kennedy had higher approval ratings.

I wonder what else of your post is bullshit.

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No.. Focus on Matthew 18, don't change the subject. Do you understand what I wrote?
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Hey, neat. You can copy/paste.
You did not, however, answer my question.
I have no intention of answering your question. I posted a biblical verse and if you do not like it, too bad.

What do you want to do with what the Koran says about you? Anything?

Koran on Jesus:
"That they said (in boast),'We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God';--But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them...for of a surety they killed him not." [4:157] Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the Cross.

"Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which he bestowed on Mary...." [4:171]
"And behold! I (God) did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee (Jesus) when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said:'This is nothing but evident magic'." [5:110] In light of the fact that God did not protect Jesus from the Jews, this statement is false.

"But she pointed to the babe. They said:'How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?' He said:'I am indeed a servant of God: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet.... Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary:(it is) a statement of truth...." [19:29-30].
Christian miracles are matched by Koranic miracles. Imagine a baby speaking in the cradle right after birth!.

"When (Jesus) the son of Mary is quoted as an example, behold! the folk laugh out,...he is nothing but a slave on whom We bestowed favour...." (The Glorious Quran by Marmaduke Pickthall [43:57, 59]
"We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel...." [57:27]
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said,'O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." [61:6].(See Also: 2:253, 23:50, 33:7)

It would be interesting to know where one could find a statement by Jesus that he would be followed by Ahmad, whom Muslims consider to be Mohammed.

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