“Ditat Deus”

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#665191 Oct 18, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
thewordofme wrote:
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Also: http://www.britannica.com/search ...
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Superman: approx. 94.7 million results
Batman: 147 million results
Spiderman: 21.4 million results
That means there's more proof of Superman, Batman and Spiderman than of jesus, yet you still think 'jesus' existed.
Imagine that.
Sorry, pappa bear, but I couldn't help it.
You too?!

I quoted his britannica search, not a general web search.

Duuuuh

“Ditat Deus”

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#665192 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

No. You said top and bottom borders , not north and south borders. If the Bible said top and bottom borders like you did, you'd use that against the Bible to show how wrong it is.
THAT'S the reference here, Christine. I understood what you meant by "top and bottom borders", you pretend like you don't understand "moving a mountain with faith".
It's a sick game you play.
ChristineM wrote:
Just because you are does not mean that I am holding the map upside-down
There is a considerable difference between holding a map upside-down and the delusion of moving several trillion tons just by thing of a god
A game, yes but not sick, never sick.
O_o

That had nothing to do with what I wrote.

That's what you call a red herring.

“Ditat Deus”

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#665193 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No.. Focus on Matthew 18, don't change the subject. Do you understand what I wrote?
Reverend Alan wrote:

New International Version
"Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
New Living Translation
"I also tell you this: If two of you agree here on earth concerning anything you ask, my Father in heaven will do it for you.
English Standard Version
Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
New American Standard Bible
"Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.
King James Bible
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Again, I assure you: If two of you on earth agree about any matter that you pray for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven.
International Standard Version
Furthermore, I tell all of you with certainty that if two of you agree on earth about anything you request, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven,
NET Bible
Again, I tell you the truth, if two of you on earth agree about whatever you ask, my Father in heaven will do it for you.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Again I say to you, that if two of you will agree in the earth about any matter which they will request, it will be done for them from the presence of my Father who is in Heaven.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
"I can guarantee again that if two of you agree on anything here on earth, my Father in heaven will accept it.
Jubilee Bible 2000
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in the heavens.
King James 2000 Bible
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth concerning anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in heaven.
American King James Version
Again I say to you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
American Standard Version
Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father who is in heaven.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Again I say to you, that if two of you shall consent upon earth, concerning any thing whatsoever they shall ask, it shall be done to them by my Father who is in heaven.
Darby Bible Translation
Again I say to you, that if two of you shall agree on the earth concerning any matter, whatsoever it may be that they shall ask, it shall come to them from my Father who is in the heavens.
English Revised Version
Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Webster's Bible Translation
Again I say to you, That if two of you shall agree on earth, concerning any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them by my Father who is in heaven.
Weymouth New Testament
I also solemnly tell you that if two of you here on earth agree together concerning anything whatever that they shall ask, the boon will come to them from my Father who is in Heaven.
World English Bible
Again, assuredly I tell you, that if two of you will agree on earth concerning anything that they will ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven.
Young's Literal Translation
'Again, I say to you, that, if two of you may agree on the earth concerning anything, whatever they may ask -- it shall be done to them from my Father who is in the heavens,
Hey, neat. You can copy/paste.

You did not, however, answer my question.

“Ditat Deus”

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#665194 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

I suppose you can prove this "Philo" exised, yes?
Go.
Reverend Alan wrote:

Can you prove that you exist? How do we know for sure that you are not part of a computer simulation?
Very good. So far, you're the only one that understood what I was trying to get across.

We can't prove Philo existed, we can't even prove that we exist. How the hell can I prove God then?

“Ditat Deus”

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#665195 Oct 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
Do you know why you have no proof for the existence of Jesus? Because Jesus never existed.
You don't exist.

Prove me wrong.

“Ditat Deus”

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#665196 Oct 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
One thing you should recognize is that there is no proof anywhere for the existence of this God that you allege exists. None. Absolutely no proof of any kind.
Reverend Alan wrote:
no proof of any kind
God has spoken to me.

That is proof of 'some kind'.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#665197 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
God has spoken to me.
That is proof of 'some kind'.
I know what he told you.

"Get back in your trailer, white trash."

Then he said, "Amen."

And in Trashese, I say to you, "gotsta go."

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#665198 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
God has spoken to me.
That is proof of 'some kind'.
How do you know it was god? Because he said so?

And let's say it was your god.

That's still not proof because you can't prove that your god spoke to you.

"Proof" of "some kind" to you maybe- certainly not any kind of proof to anyone else.

Sorry for your luck.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#665199 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed....
Artifact
noun
something observed in a scientific investigation or experiment that is not naturally present but occurs as a result of the preparative or investigative procedure.
I can only wonder why you didn't post the source of the above definition; probably because what you provided is only a partial definition and isn't even the first definition.

Full Definition of ARTIFACT
1
a : something created by humans usually for a practical purpose; especially : an object remaining from a particular period <caves containing prehistoric artifacts>
b : something characteristic of or resulting from a particular human institution, period, trend, or individual <self-consciousness … turns out to be an artifact of our education system — Times Literary Supplement>
2
: a product of artificial character (as in a scientific test) due usually to extraneous (as human) agency
— ar·ti·fac·tu·al adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#665200 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed....
Artifact
noun
something observed in a scientific investigation or experiment that is not naturally present but occurs as a result of the preparative or investigative procedure.
So limited.

An object made or shaped by human hand.
(archaeology) An object, such as a tool, weapon or ornament, of archaeological or historical interest, especially such an object found at an archaeological excavation.

The dig produced many Roman artifacts.

Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element. &#8195;

An object made or shaped by some agent or intelligence, not necessarily of direct human origin.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#665201 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
God has spoken to me.
That is proof of 'some kind'.
So if I tell you that Queen Elizabeth stopped over today for tea and crumpets and spoke to me, that would be proof of "some kind" that what I claimed was actually fact?

More than what YOU claim is proof of "some kind", for at least the existence of Queen Elizabeth can be proven.

So....if I tell you that ANY mythological being has spoken to me, you will accept that as proof of "some kind"?
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#665202 Oct 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
God has spoken to me.
That is proof of 'some kind'.
Does god speak in a baritone voice, or more like Truman Capote?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#665203 Oct 18, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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This business of not being able to save is an excuse. Granted, it is easier for some to save, for some it is extremely difficult. But if you look at 10 poor people, none of them earn the same, yet all of them are surviving. Yes, some have hard luck with health problems and some setbacks, but that is part of budgeting. If you are earning $300 a month, in your mind you should be planning to live through the month with $200. Some months will be tough, but in general, there must be no excuses. The most inaffordable thing for anyone, is excuses not to save. Sure, others can and will take pity and make excuses for you, but you cannot afford to make excuses for yourself in such a matter.
And it is the Clinton administration that screwed everything up. The tax breaks and loopholes for large coorporations are because of him. He removed numerous laws which kept capitalism fair. Initially it was a great success, since the large coorporations grew and more people got employed. But ultimately he gave these coorporations too much power and freedom. And in a globalised world, there are numerous advantages they can take and they took it, to the detriment of local workers. You have to look beyond your nose, and see what the far reaching implications are. What the long term cost is going to be.
I don't know about the U.S., but our government has numerous funds to help people with nothing start a business. I've just been at a government awards function lastnight. One of the winners of the awards was a toy company. Those people had nothing but an idea to building toy connectors that would use toilet toll cores as part of the building set. They applied for funds and they got it and made a success of it. Now as onlookers, we can find excuses why they got lucky, or analyse their success and see what we can learn from it. Their government was their partner and they are sitting pretty now.
You write:
"And it is the Clinton administration that screwed everything up. The tax breaks and loopholes for large coorporations are because of him. He removed numerous laws which kept capitalism fair. Initially it was a great success, since the large coorporations grew and more people got employed. But ultimately he gave these coorporations too much power and freedom. And in a globalised world, there are numerous advantages they can take and they took it, to the detriment of local workers. You have to look beyond your nose, and see what the far reaching implications are. What the long term cost is going to be."

I believe you are thinking of Ronald Reagan and George Bush....Not Bill Clinton.

Since: Oct 13

Scottsdale, AZ

#665204 Oct 18, 2013
Jesus was black and Ronald Reagan is the devil.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#665205 Oct 18, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
You write:
"And it is the Clinton administration that screwed everything up. The tax breaks and loopholes for large coorporations are because of him. He removed numerous laws which kept capitalism fair. Initially it was a great success, since the large coorporations grew and more people got employed. But ultimately he gave these coorporations too much power and freedom. And in a globalised world, there are numerous advantages they can take and they took it, to the detriment of local workers. You have to look beyond your nose, and see what the far reaching implications are. What the long term cost is going to be."
I believe you are thinking of Ronald Reagan and George Bush....Not Bill Clinton.
Yeah- the Clinton Administration screwed everything up according to some really screwy folks....

Some highlights of the Clinton years:

During Clinton's presidency, 22.5 million new jobs were created and unemployment dropped from 7.5% when he took office to 4.0% by the end of his second term, the lowest in 30 years.

In 1993, President Clinton signed the Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA), which allows eligible employees to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for childbirth, adoption, foster care, to care for a child, parent, or spouse with a serious medical condition, or if the employee themselves has serious medical condition.

Started COBRA- the Consolidated Omnibus Reconciliation Act which allowed employees to stay on employer sponsored insurance for 18 months after leaving or being dismissed from a job.

Under Clinton, the United States had a projected federal budget surplus for the first time since 1969 in the 1998 federal budget; the budgets for 1999, 2000, and 2001 also had surpluses.

Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating- the highest end-of-term approval rating of any President since Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Yeah- the Clinton Administration really screwed things up.....that's why he left office with a 65% approval rating.

<major eye roll here>

Since: Apr 09

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#665206 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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the book itself will prove that its word's god , but I didnt say god wrote it, god sent it through an angel to a man who couldn't read or write.
Um...okay then...all you have to do is prove there is a creator and an angel...its your hole, dig as deep as you like...

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#665207 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
“The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house; but truly the flimsiest of houses is the spider’s house;- if they but knew.”(Surah Al ‘Ankaboot 29:41)
Confirmation of the fact that the spider’s house is the flimsiest house, whether physically or spiritually. This has been proven by the late studies in zoology.
In abbreviation, Ibn Kathir mentioned:“This is an example given by Allah, the Almighty, of the idolaters who revere gods besides Allah. The idolaters hope that those gods will assist them, provide for them, and they turn to them in times of hardship. In this regard, they are like the spider’s house, in its weakness and frailty, because by clinging to these gods they are like a person who holds on to a spider’s web and does not gain any benefit from that. Had they known this, they would not have taken protectors other than Allah. This is unlike the Muslim believer, whose heart is devoted to Allah and, in addition, does well in following Allah’s decrees. The Muslim has grasped the most trustworthy handle, the one that never breaks because of its strength and stability.”
This miraculous Quranic script indicates a number of important facts, some of which are
(1) Physical weakness : The spider’s house, from the physical point of view, is the weakest house of all, because it is made out of a number of very delicate silk threads. These threads are interwoven, leaving large separating spaces at most times. Therefore, they do not protect from the heat of the sun, or the extreme cold. These threads do not form adequate shade, nor protect from the rain, storming winds, or the dangers of attackers. This is despite the miraculous building of this house.
(2) The weakness is in the spider’s house and not the threads; for the Almighty says “(the flimsiest of houses)”. This is a clear indication that the weakness and frailty are within the spider’s house and not the spider’s threads. This is a very precise indication. The threads of the spider’s house are made of very delicate silk. The thickness of one thread is usually one million of the squared inch, or one part of four thousand parts of the thickness of the ordinary human hair. Despite its delicacy, it is the strongest biological substance known to mankind so far. The silk threads which make up the spider’s web are considered stronger than steel, and their strength is surpassed only by the melted quartz. The thin thread stretches to five times its length before it is cut. Therefore, the scientists call it “biological steel” or “bio-steel”. It is more than five times stronger than the metal steel of the same thickness.
(3) Spiritual weakness : The spider’s house, spiritually speaking, is the flimsiest of all houses, because it is deprived of all love and kindness, which are the pillars of any happy home. The female, in some types of spiders, kills the male as soon as the fertilization takes place. Being larger in size and more violent, the female kills the male and eats its body. In some cases, the female eats its youngsters mercilessly. In some types, the female dies after fertilizing its eggs, which are usually fostered in a silk bag. When the eggs hatch, spiderlings come out to find themselves in a very crowded place inside the eggs bag. The siblings then start to fight for food, space or both. The brother kills its brother and sister, and the sister kills its sister and brother, until the fight ends with a few spiderlings remaining. These spiderlings shed their skin and tear the eggs bag to come out one after the other with unhappy memories. They all then spread in the surrounding environment. Each female starts to build its house. On the road to achieve this goal, some of the spiderlings die, whereas those who survive repeat the same tragedy.
These facts were unknown to any human at the time of revelation, and for long centuries thereafter.
Well that was...random.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#665208 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Abraham is a prophet who was sent by the creator to show people the right path.
And you can prove that wholly unconvincing assertion?

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#665209 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
[blah blah blah snipped]
"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,--flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God.... Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry any but a woman similarly guilty, or an unbeliever...." [24:2-4]

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#665210 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
what kind of proofs would you accept ?! I asked this question to many atheists, but still didn't get a proper answer
Ask God to help you prove he exists.

"The Arabs of the dessert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which God hath sent down to His Apostle...."[9:97]

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