Prove there's a god.

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#665090 Oct 17, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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From your recommended website above:
" ["O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Hawwa (Eve)), and from them both He created many men and women and fear Allah through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an AllWatcher over you." (Surat An-Nisâ'(The Women):1).
Here is an untruth, for we know that Adam and Eve never existed.
Keep reading, I have a strong feeling you will find what you have been looking for.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665091 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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He was the one who originally attacked me and my character, from out of the blue. He has severe hate issues.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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since this may be the ONLY post you didn't attack or insult me in, i'm gonna use it as an opportunity to talk to you as a friend:
I am *not* your friend.

Don't even pretend it.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665093 Oct 17, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Also: http://www.britannica.com/search ...
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's your proof?
Ok, do a search for Philo, you get 61 results.
Do a search for Jesus, you get 1,041 results.
That means there's more proof of Jesus than Philo, but you still don't believe Jesus existed....
Imagine that.
Superman: approx. 94.7 million results
Batman: 147 million results
Spiderman: 21.4 million results

That means there's more proof of Superman, Batman and Spiderman than of jesus, yet you still think 'jesus' existed.

Imagine that.

Sorry, pappa bear, but I couldn't help it.

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#665094 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Doesn't compute, huh?
I'd rather vote for her than for Hilary, or any other Democrat.
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Obama's an obscenity.
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She was addressing a crowd of WWII vets who were denied by their government to visit a memorial that was built to THEM while the democrats opened up the Capitol Mall for a pro-illegal immigration rally.
She was pointing out that the Democratic government was screwing the vets, and you're saying she shouldn't have been allowed to tell them that.
You're a fundie liberal, all right. You are no better than the fundie christians that you decry. Closed-minded leftists are no better than closed-minded right-wingers.
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You would say so; you are a liberal, defending Obama and the liberal party. The Capitol Mall was open for illegal aliens to demonstrate, but the WWII memorial was closed to the people for whom it was dedicated.
You can thank the liberals for that.
You completely ignored the rest of my post so that you could repeat yourself, and you have ignored the numerous times I have told you that I don't like obama. Are you incapable of understanding that it's possible to see politics in anything other than black and white? Obama isn't all bad, and he's certainly not all good.

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#665095 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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For the most part, yes; because I've watched it. You have not. You look for "experts" to tell you what you want to hear, rather than just going to the source and deciding for yourself.
Who have you watched on Fox News that you find so offensive? Was it a journalist, like Brett Bair, or a commentator, like that raging sphincter O'Reilly?
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Which ones? I asked for names; you're refusing to give them. I would ask why, but I think I already know the answer.
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Then you ought to know the name of at least *one* of them, if their "horribleness" made such an impression on you.
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That's what commentators do. Didn't you know that?
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Because commentators are OBVIOUSLY giving OPINIONS, not news.
Do you *really* not understand that?
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Geraldo Rivera, Juan Williams, Alan Colmes?**Conservative??**
What world are you living in??
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I **told** you, O'Reilly is not a journalist--HE'S A COMMENTATOR.
Mother of God, you are as dense as waaasssuuup!!
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(P)MS-NBC has demonstrated that they blend journalism with opinions. Maybe this is where you get your inability to differentiate between the two.
Stop watching MS-NBC, and learn something.
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I could start with your liberal kneejerk denials of everything I tell you, but what's the point?
"Liberal kneejerk denials?" You're just being silly at this point. Anyone that disagrees with you on anything regarding obama is a pinko liberal, apparently. Never mind the fact that I've repeatedly criticized obama, no, the fact that I don't go along with the "everything ever is obama's fault" gop rhetoric makes me a "kneejerk liberal."

Seriously, you're starting to parody yourself.

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#665096 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Actually, it was founded by a former clinton propogandist. And yes, it does feature the "kookiest far left personalities as its main attractions," as you put it.
But I thought who it was founded by makes no difference? And I thought that it's commentators make no difference, so long as they're labeled as such? Right? msnbc has absolutely no left bias, in spite of their founder and the majority of their personalities, correct?

I'm now waiting for you to tell me why it's *different* with fox, lol.

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#665097 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Right; you got that from MS-NBC.
Again, I don't watch msnbc. What do you call it when they do something purely to gain political capital? That's called a political move, and it's fooling people, obviously. There was no chance of partial funding, so why do it? To give the GOP party something to squawk about.

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#665098 Oct 17, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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what are you laughing about ?!
which side are you on ?
is it the side of the believers or non-believers ?!
Dude, the glory of god is so evident in this verse:

"And lo, the lord saeth 'all unbelievers shall be impaled upon my glory pole.'" Zekeriahschmelihia 69:6

The atheists cringe when they read the gospel. It's our best defense against their evil machinations.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665099 Oct 17, 2013
And now for something completely different....

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665100 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You would say so; you are a liberal, defending Obama and the liberal party. The Capitol Mall was open for illegal aliens to demonstrate, but the WWII memorial was closed to the people for whom it was dedicated.
You can thank the liberals for that.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You completely ignored the rest of my post
You deliberately ignored mine. You *still* haven't told me which Fox reporters you saw that are blatant right-wing propagandists; surely, their names would have stuck in your mind.

But somehow, I just don't think you will.

Oh; and you called me a racist by claiming I opposed Obama's policies because he was black.

You are the racist here, not me. You are the one who needs to play the race card.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665101 Oct 17, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>"Liberal kneejerk denials?"
Yes.

I stand by that.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>" Anyone that disagrees with you on anything regarding obama is a pinko liberal, apparently.
I never said any such thing, but don't let that stop you from making any more false accusations about me, liberal.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#665102 Oct 17, 2013
I'm going back to the video.

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#665103 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You would say so; you are a liberal, defending Obama and the liberal party. The Capitol Mall was open for illegal aliens to demonstrate, but the WWII memorial was closed to the people for whom it was dedicated.
You can thank the liberals for that.
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You deliberately ignored mine. You *still* haven't told me which Fox reporters you saw that are blatant right-wing propagandists; surely, their names would have stuck in your mind.
But somehow, I just don't think you will.
Oh; and you called me a racist by claiming I opposed Obama's policies because he was black.
You are the racist here, not me. You are the one who needs to play the race card.
When did I say that?

You are framing the question in a dishonest way. Again, my position is not that every single plain old reporter on fox is a propagandist. It is my position that the network as a whole serves as a conduit for gop propaganda. I have no idea how you could disagree with that. They have "commentators" who literally recite gop talking points. If msnbc is "liberal propaganda," then fox is conservative propaganda. They are guilty of the same things, but you are fine with fox and you take issue with msnbc. I wonder why that is. Could it be that you agree with the gop propaganda?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#665104 Oct 17, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Keep reading, I have a strong feeling you will find what you have been looking for.
From what I've seen so far, I will find other mis-truths. We know that some of the Koran is derivative of the Bible and we know that a lot of the Bible itself is purely mythical (never happened). We can prove this position.

Like I said Adam and Eve ARE disproven. So is the Noachian Flood and the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt and the age of the earth.

We also know that humans ARE related to the great apes and were not created some 6,000 to 10,000 years ago ex-nihilo.

To me just these facts alone negate the possibility of the Christian and Muslim god (they are the same god I'm told).

Can you disprove any of the things I have said here??

Since: May 07

Muncie, IN

#665105 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Of course I do. I have a dictionary. Don't you? Apparently not.
Simply having a dictionary does not equate to understanding the meaning of words.

You have to actually look in it and read.

Since: May 07

Muncie, IN

#665106 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
I'm sure there are. Liberal, left-wing sites.
Your inability to understand the terminology you choose to utilize in turn means your labels amount to nothing more than twaddle.

You seem to understand the definition of twaddle, if nothing else.

Since: May 07

Muncie, IN

#665107 Oct 17, 2013
Meh, I'm bored and you can be funny, so I'll correct your wildly ignorant twaddle.
hazem selawi wrote:
point number one shows how accurate the creator is, because a little false move will destroy everything, what if the sun was a little closer to our earth ?!! we would burn,
The Earth follows an elliptical orbit around the Sun, not a circular orbit. The Earth's distance from the Sun varies over the course of the year by about 5 million kilometers.
Yet, everything is not destroyed, like you assert would happen.
hazem selawi wrote:
and you still cant make the sun rises from the west and set in the east, Regardless of the rotation nor up and down, we are not playing a game of words, lets just realize the big picture.
The Sun does not rise. Rather, the Earth rotates.
hazem selawi wrote:
if you want to say anything please try to mention science, raising a baby inside someones womb,
A baby is not raised in a womb. The womb is the site of the embryo's gestation until childbirth.
hazem selawi wrote:
even that Womb is full of complicated Details,
What in the world is "complicated details" even supposed to mean?
hazem selawi wrote:
I am not a man of science and I don't know much,
...which you have made quite obvious.
hazem selawi wrote:
check your hands typing, check your eyes, nothing can ever compete with the Gift of sight you wouldn't trade your eyes for a million Dollar maybe more, no computer nor nothing can compete with the human Brain which has so many details if we got into it,it would take us weeks to cover it and maybe more.
Both the eyes and the brain are highly developed ganglia that have evolved into individual organs with independent metabolic and physiological functions.
We have already "gotten into" both, by the way.
hazem selawi wrote:
if all the human race worked together they wont be able to create a single fly,
Flies are not created. They develop from a larvae (maggot) which hatched from an egg.
hazem selawi wrote:
the fly has a soul it lives for a period of time, it may absorb food, it may reproduce, or Bees or Aunts they all have a system and live in an incredible way, who taught those insects all these things, who taught you to breastfeed ?! who taught the aunt to seek for food and protect their queen ?!!
There are no teachers of flies. There are no teachers of ants. Or of bees, for that matter.
Flies do indeed metabolize nutrients from their surrounding environment since you seem confused about that matter.
An "aunt" is a family member, by the way.
hazem selawi wrote:
i think you asked yourself so many questions but never got an accurate answer,tell me about your life, some wise man once said every christian atheist is still a christian in the back of his head, and every atheist is an atheist until he gets sick or face a problem that he might never be able to solve by himself,
Rather, you are too weak-minded to tackle your own problems and so pretend an invisible being is going to save you. Young children sometimes do the same thing with Spider-Man.
hazem selawi wrote:
why do you know the difference between right and wrong ?why do you feel guilty when you hurt someone ?!!
We are taught this from a young age by others in the society we are raised in. Thus, different areas of the world have different perceptions of "right and wrong."
hazem selawi wrote:
who put all these feelings in you ?!
Feelings are not "put" anywhere.

All of your arguments, Hazem, are nothing more than your own ignorance that you are assuming others share. You seem to have not faced the fact that you are, essentially, an imbecile (to use the literal definition of the word).

You could have summed up your entire post by simply saying
hazem selawi wrote:
I am not a man of science and I don't know much,

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#665108 Oct 17, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Yes.
I stand by that.
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I never said any such thing, but don't let that stop you from making any more false accusations about me, liberal.
No, you didn't outright say it, but you might as well have. Anything I say that is even remotely positive (or even negative, but not negative enough, I guess) about obama causes you to call me a "line towing liberal."

Why do you use the word "liberal" as an insult. That's bizarre.

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#665109 Oct 17, 2013
Apsu wrote:
Meh, I'm bored and you can be funny, so I'll correct your wildly ignorant twaddle.
<quoted text>The Earth follows an elliptical orbit around the Sun, not a circular orbit. The Earth's distance from the Sun varies over the course of the year by about 5 million kilometers.
Yet, everything is not destroyed, like you assert would happen.
<quoted text>The Sun does not rise. Rather, the Earth rotates.
<quoted text>A baby is not raised in a womb. The womb is the site of the embryo's gestation until childbirth.
<quoted text>What in the world is "complicated details" even supposed to mean?
<quoted text>...which you have made quite obvious.
<quoted text>Both the eyes and the brain are highly developed ganglia that have evolved into individual organs with independent metabolic and physiological functions.
We have already "gotten into" both, by the way.
<quoted text>Flies are not created. They develop from a larvae (maggot) which hatched from an egg.
<quoted text>There are no teachers of flies. There are no teachers of ants. Or of bees, for that matter.
Flies do indeed metabolize nutrients from their surrounding environment since you seem confused about that matter.
An "aunt" is a family member, by the way.
<quoted text>Rather, you are too weak-minded to tackle your own problems and so pretend an invisible being is going to save you. Young children sometimes do the same thing with Spider-Man.
<quoted text>We are taught this from a young age by others in the society we are raised in. Thus, different areas of the world have different perceptions of "right and wrong."
<quoted text>Feelings are not "put" anywhere.
All of your arguments, Hazem, are nothing more than your own ignorance that you are assuming others share. You seem to have not faced the fact that you are, essentially, an imbecile (to use the literal definition of the word).
You could have summed up your entire post by simply saying
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Good post.

“LOL Really?”

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#665110 Oct 18, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Alright I will give you some stories about the previous nations who didnt believe in God
1) When Abraham said, "My Lord is the one who gives life and causes death," he said, "I give life and cause death." Abraham said, "Indeed, Allah brings up the sun from the east, so bring it up from the west." Can anyone of you non Believers bring the sun up from the west instead from the east ?!!
2)were you created by nothing, or were you the creators of yourselves ?!!
3) Have not god made the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?, And god created you in pairs And made your sleep [a means for] rest And made the night as clothing And made the day for livelihood And constructed above you seven strong [heavens] And made [therein] a burning lamp, And sent down from the rain clouds, pouring water That god may bring forth thereby grain and vegetation
And gardens of entwined growth ..??!!
I would Say ...Blessed is He who has placed in the sky great stars and placed therein a [burning] lamp and luminous moon, I would say
God perfected everything which He created and began the creation of man from clay.
4)God created you from one soul. Then He made from it its mate, and He produced for you from the grazing livestock eight mates. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, within three darknesses.
Maybe after we discuss these points I can put some more profs of God's power.
Abraham who?

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