Prove there's a god.

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#661769 Oct 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
You still don't get it, when the framers wrote the constitution the thinks like 1 2 3 5 all the amendments were not something it gave you. It was a stipulation of contract we hold the government to.
These things we consider unalienable rights you were born with, and no law can take them away. It was the sovereign rights we the people gave ourselves. But there is a way amendments can be changed however...
There has to be 2/3 vote in the House, Senate and congress.
If the vote falls short in any one of them the amendment can't be changed.
"The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns."
With this the problem is history, every time in history there has been a national registration, in every county including this one.
It was used to confiscate them, even when the people were told it wouldn't be done. Every single time, no one is going to agree with a national registration. We've seen this kinda thing before, and are not naive about the intent of registering.
The biggest problem of all this , is that the government is trying to overstep it bounds to enforce laws and define the Government the gifter of these rights. It isn't so, The constitution was written to give the right of Kings to lay in the hands of the majority of the people. It is also infringing on the rights of individual States to write their on laws.
51 % or even 60% cannot change it, it will take 75% in all branches
to do so.
http://www.kansas.com/2013/05/02/2786294/us-a...
http://benswann.com/colorado-citizens-seek-to...
That's what we get for treating a document written by our founders over 200 years ago as if it was given to us by god. I personally do not consider the right to own a gun a human right but rather a legal right mixed in with what are mostly human rights (in the bill of rights). The world changes. Our founders did not anticipate guns that could chop down a tree, which is why I see no problem with violating their hallowed words by putting in place sensible restrictions along with a registration system. State level, national level, community level... I don't care, but there should be some sort of registration requirement for gun owners. It's ludicrous to think that the government could (even if they wanted to) confiscate all the guns in america. Not only would it be nearly logistically impossible, even attempting to do so would likely spark off small scale revolts.

I am aware that we can over rule amendments with new amendments - but killing the 2nd amendment isn't something I'm in favor of anyway. People have their guns and are very attached to them, and there is nothing to be done about that.

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#661770 Oct 5, 2013
truth wrote:
5 pyramide visible and 5 not visible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =H6SQzgn9cgcXX
its deference projection
its around planet up to planet one by one as ring leaders
one by one universal planet one by one one by one many
how many
i don't know
then how i8 know
i know as i know
its not me that i know
but i know
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Yes.

Since: Sep 11

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#661771 Oct 5, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to have a very simplistic view of democracy.
Democracy isn't just about voting and winner takes all. The % majority matters. Obama only got 51.1% of the vote, and the the house of representatives is mostly republican, which makes Obama's power quite watered down. He can use Veto power, but he has to tread lightly with that, lest he be called a dictator.
Moreover, the U.S. is a federation. Each state in the U.S. has it's own laws, with relatively few basic laws uniting the country.
Democracy is not simply some mob rule with winner takes all.
Well, the state laws are supposed to supersede the federal ones. But often times it doesn't work that way.

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#661772 Oct 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
<quoted text>
I often go on this prove there is a god thread.
The fact that you think no one would take your guns off you shows you are a selfish spoilt little bitch, who not only needs her weapons took off her, but perhaps deserves to be raped as well.
Perhaps I was right to believe you need to be raped after all.
NOW KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT BITCH QUIET!
I think someone feels a lot of bitterness towards women. Never had much luck with the fairer sex?

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#661773 Oct 5, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
I suspect you meant that people do stupid things with guns, not that a piece of manufactured metal is stupid.
It is difficult for me to accept that the Government could ever come up with any regulation that is sensible.
What always fails to be taken into account are the overwhelming vast numbers of people who refuse to do as the Government wants because what the government wants is wrong. Just look at the number of pot smokers who violate the drug laws and all the regulation there is. None of it works because complete and total legalization is the only sensible thing to do.
From an article I read this morning: "Over a decade ago, Professor Bruce Pomerance of the University of Toronto concluded that properly prescribed and correctly taken pharmaceutical drugs were the fourth leading cause of death in the US!
In 2000, the Institutes of Medicine reported that medical errors were the eighth leading cause of death in the US, killing between 44,000 and 98,000 people each year. This was followed by a 2003 article aptly titled "Death by Medicine", authored in two parts by Carolyn Dean, MD, ND, which described in excruciating detail how the modern conventional American medical system has bumbled its way into becoming the leading cause of death and injury in the United States, claiming the lives of nearly 784,000 people annually! "
Smoking pot has never killed anyone, but the Government regulated medical system kills 784,000 people annually. That is more than alcohol and tobacco combined.
Comparing weed to a gun isn't really a fair comparison - weed truly has never killed anyone, and guns (or rather, people with guns if you like) have killed many. Additionally, weed will certainly be regulated if it is legalized. That's one of the biggest benefits of legalization - we can kill the black market and make money by regulating it ourselves. We can put in place a system similar to alcohol to help prevent under age people from getting it.

Guns are more similar to cars than weed anyway. You need skill to operate both responsible, and both can kill people. We register cars and their drivers, because that makes sense, and I think the only reason people have such an aversion to gun registration is because they are convinced that such a thing is a harbinger of the apocalypse.

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#661774 Oct 5, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>So U despise God also and believe that He is a bigot?! So U and your fellow brethren belong to a group that despises the testimony of God towards an abomination in which was not acceptable amongst His creation?! And then U corrupt His word and teach the people to accept ungodly deeds?! Have U and your brethren created a graven image of God?!, a mental image of who U want God to be and the things U want Him to accept or reject?! U know that this is exactly what U and your brethren have done and are doing to the people U spread your beliefs to.
You caught us man. We created a graven ass image of god.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#661775 Oct 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>That's what we get for treating a document written by our founders over 200 years ago as if it was given to us by god. I personally do not consider the right to own a gun a human right but rather a legal right mixed in with what are mostly human rights (in the bill of rights). The world changes. Our founders did not anticipate guns that could chop down a tree, which is why I see no problem with violating their hallowed words by putting in place sensible restrictions along with a registration system. State level, national level, community level... I don't care, but there should be some sort of registration requirement for gun owners. It's ludicrous to think that the government could (even if they wanted to) confiscate all the guns in america. Not only would it be nearly logistically impossible, even attempting to do so would likely spark off small scale revolts.
I am aware that we can over rule amendments with new amendments - but killing the 2nd amendment isn't something I'm in favor of anyway. People have their guns and are very attached to them, and there is nothing to be done about that.
The concept will never become obsolete, so long as there are treasonous parts to a multiple governed planet.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661776 Oct 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Cars aren't listed under the second amendment as The right to bear one ,"shall not be infringed" either. Also you have to have a permit to carry one in public.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text> I think guns are stupid, but I didn't say that they should be banned, just that they should be registered.
There's only one reason for registration: to know where they are. And why does the government want to know where they are? For eventual confiscation.

Registration does *nothing* to reduce crime. Ask any gang banger.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text> The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns, because that would be dumb.
Actually, it does, when it states that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Period.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text> Just because the right to bear arms is guaranteed by the constitution doesn't mean we can't try to sensibly regulate guns.
What *other* rights would you regulate? I apologize if I sound antagonistic, I don't mean to; but once the feds start messing around with one constitutionally guaranteed right, what's to stop them from messing around with the rest of them? They're currently in the process of messing around with our right to decide what kind--if any at all--of medical insurance to have.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661777 Oct 5, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Registration violates the Constitution's guarantee of our right to keep and bear arms. Try reading it some time.
Show us where we have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to own and drive a car.
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
As a gun owner, I have read it, and you are wrong.
No I'm not.
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text> Maybe you should try reading it.
I have. Why the hostility?
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text> What people like you tend to forget is the first part, and the three little words WELL REGULATED MILITIA.
People like me? What kind of people am I?

What kind of people are *you?*

Look up the legal definition of "militia." Never mind, I'll do it for you:

Militia, n.[L., military service, soldiery, from miles (-itis), a soldier.] 1.(a) originally, any military force; (b) later, any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called out in time of emergency. 2. In the United States, all able-bodies male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not already members of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard, Organized Reserve Corps (Army and Air), and the Naval and Marine Reserves constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia.

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary
Second Edition,(C) 1983

Let's look at that again: "...any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called out in time of emergency."

Nowadays, if women can serve in the military, we can also serve in the *un*organized militia.
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>I own guns. I love my guns. I support the, and no one will take my guns away from me. But I ALSO have no problem with background checks and registration.
What do YOU have to hide?
I'm a free citizen; it's not the government's business to know how many firearms I have or what kind. You seem to forget that we don't serve the government; the government is supposed to serve *us.*

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661778 Oct 5, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, now you made me laugh.
:D
Do you know why Rudolf's nose was red?
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
No, why ?
Too much bad coke.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661779 Oct 5, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Registration violates the Constitution's guarantee of our right to keep and bear arms. Try reading it some time.
Show us where we have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to own and drive a car.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>No, it doesn't. Even the Supreme Court admits such. See DC vs Heller. You're not very bright.
Smarter than you, scooter.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>"A well regulated militia..." The Militia Act of 1792 required men between the ages of 18 and 45 to register themselves and their "good rifle". You're all wet, witch. You're melting.
http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792....

I didn't see the word "registration" of personnel anywhere. I did see, however, that said citizens were required to provide their own weapons and ammo.

I got mine; where's yours? Or are you just gonna shoot your mouth off instead, like you're doing here?

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661780 Oct 5, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Yes it is, bonehead. No registration = no ownership. I lived in California; now I'm in Oregon, and I'll never go back. We have no registration here, and we have legal open carry.
And a really, really low crime rate.
<quoted text>
Then so has freedom of speech, since we no longer have a king to insult and rebel against.
<quoted text>
Yeah; those were the "assault rifles" of their day.
I am, however, in partial agreement with you; *you* shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. I should. You'd probably blow your own foot off, or accidentally shoot some innocent bystander; I wouldn't.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Bullshit. A gun is most likely going to harm an innocent no matter who wields it.
Then go disarm your cops. Disarm the army.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Freedom of speech is not outmoded.
Neither is freedom of self-defense.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> You didn't address the question.
Yes I did; you just didn't like what I said.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> You're a river dancer, too.
You're a fundamentalist liberal.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Where do you draw the line at arms and why?
I draw the line where it's practical. Think about that.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Gun nuts are a danger to Society.
Gun-hating fundamentalist liberals and other assorted socialists like you are a danger to individual liberty.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661781 Oct 5, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
What the hell are "emotes?"
And yes, he has been affected. So was I, as I pointed out; I got my hours cut. Don't tell *me* obamacare is a good thing.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Auto correct, nitwit. You can't infer the proper word by context?
Care to explain what the hell you're babbling about?

No?

I didn't think so.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> You're not very bright. How many employees does your boss have? No vet I know has enough employees to be affected by the Affordable Care Act.
Seven technicians, three receptionists, three doctors.

Now, are you going to explain why my boss was forced into cutting my hours, or not?

What's that you say? You can't?

Then shut the fuck up.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> (Blaah blaah blaah, crap crap crap, fundie liberal horseshit....) Your premiums of employer-supplied health insurance will go down.
Then explain to my boss why his went up.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Your misinformation is staggering.
I'm speaking from personal experience. What are you doing, quoting from The Progressive, Mother Jones and MS-NBC? If you are, I know you won't admit it.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Your racism is alarming.
?

What's race got to do with anything? Oh, I get it; you fundie liberal socialists believe if anyone opposes your lord obama's policies, it's not because they're bad policies, but it's because they're *racist.*

That proves what a racist *you* are. You're a liberal version of a McCarthyist. In order to silence their opposition, they screamed "Communist!" In a lame attempt to silence your opposition, you scream, "Racist!"
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Your lunacy is telling. Your self-delusion is Christian-like. You need help.
Since you can't argue from truth and logic, you need to resort to insults. Now,*whose* self-delusion is so christian-like? Go look in a mirror.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661782 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Psuedo rev, you are absolutely repugnant and are an insane cultist. Repent already
Wipe that semen from your chin.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661783 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I can deal with it but youre obstreperously pontificating speciousness. Its you who cant deal with the "word of God". You've devoted your life to flailing and railing. You don't accept what everyone knows is right. Billions worship Jesus. Sunday is a great day to worship our great God who is greatly to be praised.
Gee, should I get all born-again and saved so I can be a hate-spewing sphincter like you?

I think not.

GFY.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661784 Oct 5, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I see no reason to call Alan a "psuedo" [sic] reverend.
I'm an ordained minister myself. Looking forward to performing the first legal same-sex marriage in Florida.
Pro bono.
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text> I dont see how U would (for the obedience of the Word of God) be in any way comfortable with being a so-called man of God and stand in the holy witness of God and join two of the same sexes in HOLY matrimony in a house of God!!!! But what can I say, preachers are selling their souls all the time these days (as was spoken of concerning end times) for government money:: Remember Bush Jr.'s FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE?!?
"All acts of love and compassion gain favor with the Goddess." Gospel of Aradia.

"Love is never wrong." Melissa Etheridge

I don't need your buybull god.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661785 Oct 5, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>So U despise God also and believe that He is a bigot?! So U and your fellow brethren belong to a group that despises the testimony of God towards an abomination in which was not acceptable amongst His creation?! And then U corrupt His word and teach the people to accept ungodly deeds?! Have U and your brethren created a graven image of God?!, a mental image of who U want God to be and the things U want Him to accept or reject?! U know that this is exactly what U and your brethren have done and are doing to the people U spread your beliefs to.
Your god of hate is an abomination. And so are you, since it is people like you who give it life.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

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#661786 Oct 5, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, now you made me laugh.
:D
Do you know why Rudolf's nose was red?
<quoted text>
Too much bad coke.
Is there such a thing as that?

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#661787 Oct 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You caught us man. We created a graven ass image of god.
Aw, U're FHC also? Because I was responding to uh, well I forgot who that was because they got scared when I called 'em and didn't care to reply.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#661788 Oct 5, 2013
I've spent enough of my Saturday night here; I've got a new version of "Fright Night" to watch.

Ciao, y'all!

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