Prove there's a god.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661686 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Red herring. I was referring to Obamacare - which forces me to either buy insurance or pay a fine.
2. Oh ya. NY.
3. "Your rights end where mine begin"?!? WTF?
4. You will never pay my medical bills. I shouldn't be forced to wear a seat belt.
5. You will never pay my medical bills. I can go bungee jumping, get high as a kite, drunk as a skunk, drink as much Pepsi as I want, eat all the cheeseburgers and fried chicken I want, etc. but go for a motorcycle ride without a helmet? Now, that's just crazy talk!
6. It doesn't matter. There's no reason why you or anyone else should know how many guns I have.
6a. I know the laws, I never broke them.
I wear a seatbelt 'cause I drive like a New York cabbie. And, as a CCW owner, I keep a Glock 19 in the storage compartment between the front seats.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661687 Oct 4, 2013
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Many Americans don't think it goes far enough, which is why they oppose it. Others oppose it because of the rampant misinformation disseminated by the likes of the Koch Brothers which you have fallen for. Some oppose it because just the presence of a black man in the White House is a militant act to them. Republicans oppose it even though it is the same plan proposed by the Heritage Foundation and also used to great success by Romney in Massachusetts just because a Democrat got it passed...
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We're STILL gonna pay for those emergency rooms.
But now we'll just have to pay more. And like for Kaitlin's boss, it can be very expensive.
No one paid for *my* trip to the ER but me. I cut my hand on the rim of a broken wine glass at 11:00 PM on a Saturday night last October. One f*ckin' stitch,$1,400.

Your damn right, they made me pay; they made sure they knew where to find me.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661688 Oct 4, 2013
"Your" = "you're."

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661689 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Just use my first example, about repetitive prayer.
Matthew 6:7
“And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words."
Catholics do the sane prayer over and over again, that goes against Christian doctrine.
Catholics were *the* christians until Martin Luther came along with his protestant reformation.

What you call the bible was compiled, edited, revised and translated by Catholics.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661690 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We're STILL gonna pay for those emergency rooms.
But now we'll just have to pay more. And like for Kaitlin's boss, it can be very expensive.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>No, we are not. Those people will be able to go to a PCP and not have to clog the emergency rooms. She works for a vet. He most likely doesn't even have enough emotes to be affected.
What the hell are "emotes?"

And yes, he has been affected. So was I, as I pointed out; I got my hours cut. Don't tell *me* obamacare is a good thing.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661691 Oct 4, 2013
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.....

6. Gun registration does not violate the Constitution. Using your illogic, why do we register vehicles or have driver's licenses? Gun owners should be required to have insurance, just like car owners, as the gun is most likely to kill innocents.
Registration violates the Constitution's guarantee of our right to keep and bear arms. Try reading it some time.

Show us where we have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to own and drive a car.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661692 Oct 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Some of your concerns are valid, most are silly, and the firearm things is just dumb. Do you complain about having to register your car? And your car doesn't exist solely to shoot bullets at things.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Cars aren't listed under the second amendment as The right to bear one ,"shall not be infringed" either. Also you have to have a permit to carry one in public.
Not in Oregon. Open carry is legal here, no permit required. Oddly enough, concealed carry requires a permit, but not open carry.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661693 Oct 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Cars aren't listed under the second amendment as The right to bear one ,"shall not be infringed" either. Also you have to have a permit to carry one in public.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> Registration is not infringement, you gun-sick putz.
Yes it is, bonehead. No registration = no ownership. I lived in California; now I'm in Oregon, and I'll never go back. We have no registration here, and we have legal open carry.

And a really, really low crime rate.
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text> The Second Amendment has outlived it's usefulness, and, it was first used to strike down a rebellion against the government.
Then so has freedom of speech, since we no longer have a king to insult and rebel against.

Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Use your Google machine.
If you think your Glock can stop a drone...
By the way, I ask this of every gun nut. Where do you draw the line? Arms in 1776 were flintlocks.
Yeah; those were the "assault rifles" of their day.

I am, however, in partial agreement with you; *you* shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. I should. You'd probably blow your own foot off, or accidentally shoot some innocent bystander; I wouldn't.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#661695 Oct 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me tell you from the prospective of an outsider, congratulations to the American People for electing an honorable man (for a change)
Obama is a lying sack. He's a blatant socialist, a race baiter, and probably the worst president we've ever had.

He thinks we have 57 states, fer god's sakes!!

Since: Sep 11

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#661697 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh hardy har har!
I just couldn't be a Catholic.
From my point of view, they grossly violate the Bible's teachings.
Like how they do their repetitive prayers, their worship of Mary and Saints, their thinking that all Christians are Saints, how they condemn certain holidays, their idol worship, their thinking that only a Priest can understand the Bible, Original Sin is false doctrine, etc, etc.
sigh
I wonder if they feel the same way about you.

Since: Sep 11

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#661698 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Red herring. I was referring to Obamacare - which forces me to either buy insurance or pay a fine.
2. Oh ya. NY.
3. "Your rights end where mine begin"?!? WTF?
4. You will never pay my medical bills. I shouldn't be forced to wear a seat belt.
5. You will never pay my medical bills. I can go bungee jumping, get high as a kite, drunk as a skunk, drink as much Pepsi as I want, eat all the cheeseburgers and fried chicken I want, etc. but go for a motorcycle ride without a helmet? Now, that's just crazy talk!
6. It doesn't matter. There's no reason why you or anyone else should know how many guns I have.
6a. I know the laws, I never broke them.
You never know when the gub'ment is gonna come door to door confiscating all yer weapons.

Since: Sep 11

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#661699 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We're STILL gonna pay for those emergency rooms.
But now we'll just have to pay more. And like for Kaitlin's boss, it can be very expensive.
I personally think we should have just invested the money in more military R&D. We never fight over that.

Since: Sep 11

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#661700 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You misunderstand. I didn't say I've seen God, unfortunately He remains visually invisible to me. What I mean by "God has shown Himself to me" is that I've felt His touch, heard His voice and seen His works. I have never 'seen' God.
I don't care what happens to my corpse, either. I gave my wife full autonomy on that. She'll likely fry my ass and sprinkle me outi n the riverbottom with her mom, assuming I go first.
But I do care about my soul. It is eternal and will never "lay to rest" like my body will.
Visually invisible? If nothing else, a great band name.

Since: Sep 11

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#661701 Oct 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Cars aren't listed under the second amendment as The right to bear one ,"shall not be infringed" either. Also you have to have a permit to carry one in public.
I think guns are stupid, but I didn't say that they should be banned, just that they should be registered. The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns, because that would be dumb. Just because the right to bear arms is guaranteed by the constitution doesn't mean we can't try to sensibly regulate guns.
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#661702 Oct 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I know what you're talking about. I remember now.
I never said I was an atheist.
I never said I became a Christian as an adult.
I said that as an adult, I nearly dropped my faith in God. Nearly, not completely. Then God turned my life around and restored my faith.
As children, God is all we know.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#661703 Oct 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I think guns are stupid, but I didn't say that they should be banned, just that they should be registered. The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns, because that would be dumb. Just because the right to bear arms is guaranteed by the constitution doesn't mean we can't try to sensibly regulate guns.

You still don't get it, when the framers wrote the constitution the thinks like 1 2 3 5 all the amendments were not something it gave you. It was a stipulation of contract we hold the government to.
These things we consider unalienable rights you were born with, and no law can take them away. It was the sovereign rights we the people gave ourselves. But there is a way amendments can be changed however...

There has to be 2/3 vote in the House, Senate and congress.
If the vote falls short in any one of them the amendment can't be changed.

"The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns."

With this the problem is history, every time in history there has been a national registration, in every county including this one.
It was used to confiscate them, even when the people were told it wouldn't be done. Every single time, no one is going to agree with a national registration. We've seen this kinda thing before, and are not naive about the intent of registering.

The biggest problem of all this , is that the government is trying to overstep it bounds to enforce laws and define the Government the gifter of these rights. It isn't so, The constitution was written to give the right of Kings to lay in the hands of the majority of the people. It is also infringing on the rights of individual States to write their on laws.
51 % or even 60% cannot change it, it will take 75% in all branches
to do so.

http://www.kansas.com/2013/05/02/2786294/us-a...

http://benswann.com/colorado-citizens-seek-to...

Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#661704 Oct 4, 2013
Don't run.
Stop holding your tongue.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#661705 Oct 5, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
As children, God is all we know.
Then as children you shall remain.
Greens - Tuf

Kurnell, Australia

#661706 Oct 5, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Then as children you shall remain.
I shall give Santa Claus the heads up.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#661707 Oct 5, 2013
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
I shall give Santa Claus the heads up.
Just remember to wipe off your chin.

;-)

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