Prove there's a god.

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#661734 Oct 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You never know when the gub'ment is gonna come door to door confiscating all yer weapons.
He claims his god knows everything and that he has the holy spirit in him guiding him in the right way to be, perhaps that holy spook can tell him when the government is going to start collecting our guns and he can warn us all.

One of the reasons for having a gun it to stop the government from taking it.

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#661735 Oct 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I personally think we should have just invested the money in more military R&D. We never fight over that.
LOL!
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#661736 Oct 5, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Pot/kettle
You can't be a Christian because you grossly violate the Bible's teachings. I have posted several thousand biblical commands that you violate, many on a daily basis.
You are a Christ-insanity-ist not a Christian.
Psuedo rev, you are absolutely repugnant and are an insane cultist. Repent already

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#661737 Oct 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I think guns are stupid, but I didn't say that they should be banned, just that they should be registered. The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns, because that would be dumb. Just because the right to bear arms is guaranteed by the constitution doesn't mean we can't try to sensibly regulate guns.
I suspect you meant that people do stupid things with guns, not that a piece of manufactured metal is stupid.

It is difficult for me to accept that the Government could ever come up with any regulation that is sensible.

What always fails to be taken into account are the overwhelming vast numbers of people who refuse to do as the Government wants because what the government wants is wrong. Just look at the number of pot smokers who violate the drug laws and all the regulation there is. None of it works because complete and total legalization is the only sensible thing to do.

From an article I read this morning: "Over a decade ago, Professor Bruce Pomerance of the University of Toronto concluded that properly prescribed and correctly taken pharmaceutical drugs were the fourth leading cause of death in the US!

In 2000, the Institutes of Medicine reported that medical errors were the eighth leading cause of death in the US, killing between 44,000 and 98,000 people each year. This was followed by a 2003 article aptly titled "Death by Medicine", authored in two parts by Carolyn Dean, MD, ND, which described in excruciating detail how the modern conventional American medical system has bumbled its way into becoming the leading cause of death and injury in the United States, claiming the lives of nearly 784,000 people annually! "

Smoking pot has never killed anyone, but the Government regulated medical system kills 784,000 people annually. That is more than alcohol and tobacco combined.

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#661738 Oct 5, 2013
How many people were killed by guns in America last year?

Answer: The Centers for Disease Control says 11,493 people died from gun homicides.

How many people were killed by the American Medical System?

Answer: 784,000.

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#661739 Oct 5, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
As children, God is all we know.
We are all born non-theists. You only "know" [read believe] when the adults tell you God this and Jesus that and you are to stupid to know not to believe everything you are told.

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#661740 Oct 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
You still don't get it, when the framers wrote the constitution the thinks like 1 2 3 5 all the amendments were not something it gave you. It was a stipulation of contract we hold the government to.
These things we consider unalienable rights you were born with, and no law can take them away. It was the sovereign rights we the people gave ourselves. But there is a way amendments can be changed however...
There has to be 2/3 vote in the House, Senate and congress.
If the vote falls short in any one of them the amendment can't be changed.
"The constitution doesn't explicitly rule out any sort of registration system for guns."
With this the problem is history, every time in history there has been a national registration, in every county including this one.
It was used to confiscate them, even when the people were told it wouldn't be done. Every single time, no one is going to agree with a national registration. We've seen this kinda thing before, and are not naive about the intent of registering.
The biggest problem of all this , is that the government is trying to overstep it bounds to enforce laws and define the Government the gifter of these rights. It isn't so, The constitution was written to give the right of Kings to lay in the hands of the majority of the people. It is also infringing on the rights of individual States to write their on laws.
51 % or even 60% cannot change it, it will take 75% in all branches
to do so.
http://www.kansas.com/2013/05/02/2786294/us-a...
http://benswann.com/colorado-citizens-seek-to...
I would like to see a death penalty law on the books for anyone who writes, supports and passes a law that is later found to be unconstitutional.

We could have a pubic beheading of elected officials on the White House lawn every Friday night for entertainment like they do in Saudi Arabia.

I also want the death penalty for those who write laws and then later violate them. Like anti-gay politicians who later get caught in the men's room. And also for the children and family members of politicians when those family members violate a law that that politician passed.

For instance should a judges son get caught standing next to a joint he should be immediately executed. Same with the children of law enforcement officers. If you want to win the war on drugs this is how.

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#661741 Oct 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
As a gun owner, I have read it, and you are wrong. Maybe you should try reading it. What people like you tend to forget is the first part, and the three little words WELL REGULATED MILITIA.
I own guns. I love my guns. I support the, and no one will take my guns away from me. But I ALSO have no problem with background checks and registration.
What do YOU have to hide?
You probably only spend time in the good parts of town. If I wanted to buy a gun tonight I could go down to the tenderloin and look up "Jimmy the knife" and I assure you, "Jimmy" [not his real name] will not do any background check nor will he register me as his customer and send the information to the Government.

Now, my father can go into a gun store, fill out all the paperwork to register his new gun, wait 2 weeks for the paperwork to come back approved, pay for his gun and walk out the store.

My father did this once and then some punk ass kid broke into our home and stole all our guns. Do you think the thieves registered them? Or checked on the backgrounds of the gang members they sold them too?

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#661742 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Psuedo rev, you are absolutely repugnant and are an insane cultist. Repent already
OK, I'll play: I am a Psuedo [sic] what ever that is, rev and I am absolutely repugnant and an insane cultist who refuses to repent.

With all of that I still prove the Bible can not be trusted because it is unreliable. I still prove that Christ-insanity is a hoax and a crime against humanity. I still prove you can't refute anything I write and that you are so low functioning all you can do is attack the messenger because the message is something you can not deal with.

You Christ-insanity-ists need to grow up if you are going to post with the grownups.

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#661743 Oct 5, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>Democracy isn't just about voting and winner takes all. Democracy is not simply some mob rule with winner takes all.
QUESTION: What do you call two wolves and one lamb voting on what to eat for lunch?

ANSWER: A democracy.

Democracy is mob rule with winner take all. And that is why voting is an abomination. The Majority is seldom right. Our American republic was written to protect minorities from the whims of the majority.

If we voted tomorrow in America Islam would be illegal in all 50 states.

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#661745 Oct 5, 2013
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Bullshit. A gun is most likely going to harm an innocent no matter who wields it. Gun nuts are a danger to Society.


People who want to take our honestly acquired property away from us is the biggest danger to society and the American Medical establishment kills 500 times the number of people guns do.

Gun education should start in first grade and using guns in a school class should start by 5th or 6th grade. We educate our children how to drive a car and we should educate our children about the responsible use of guns. Ignorance is not a virtue, ignorance is what makes guns dangerous.

My best friend was killed when we went home with a classmate after school one day and he went in and got his dads hand gun. I grew up with guns and I knew they were not toys to be played with. I told him to put it away or we were leaving. He refused to put the gun back in his fathers room and my friend refused to leave with me. They both called me chicken as I left his house. Of course the gun had a bullet in it and it went off killing my friend. "J" admitted to the cops that they were taking turns pointing it at each other and pulling the trigger. Had "J's" father taken him to the gun range and let him shoot the gun and then locked it up so he could not get to it, my friend would be alive today.

I am glad I grew up with guns. When I got my first BB Gun I shot at a black bird and I hit it. I was so excited to have actually shot something so I ran to see my kill. There was this poor bird suffering flapping its wings in pure agony, laying on the ground slowly loosing its life as I watched, stunned, not knowing what, if anything to do.

I never again ever used a gun to kill another living thing.

Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#661746 Oct 5, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I'll play: I am a Psuedo [sic] what ever that is, rev and I am absolutely repugnant and an insane cultist who refuses to repent.
With all of that I still prove the Bible can not be trusted because it is unreliable. I still prove that Christ-insanity is a hoax and a crime against humanity. I still prove you can't refute anything I write and that you are so low functioning all you can do is attack the messenger because the message is something you can not deal with.
You Christ-insanity-ists need to grow up if you are going to post with the grownups.
I can deal with it but youre obstreperously pontificating speciousness. Its you who cant deal with the "word of God". You've devoted your life to flailing and railing. You don't accept what everyone knows is right. Billions worship Jesus. Sunday is a great day to worship our great God who is greatly to be praised.

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#661748 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Its you who cant deal with the "word of God".
The point is, the Bible is NOT the word of any god. The errors, contradictions and fallacies prove this.

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#661749 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I can deal with it but youre obstreperously pontificating speciousness.
You do not deal with biblical errors you insult those who post them.

Using the Bible tell us if anyone has ever seen God:

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Versus

Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."
(also Psalm 63:2 Isa.6:1 & 6:5, Amos 7:7-8, Ezek. 20:35, Ex 24:9-10)

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#661750 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> You don't accept what everyone knows [read believe] is right. Billions worship Jesus.
Thousands of years ago everyone "knew" the earth was flat. You Christ-insanity-ists used to burn people alive who said otherwise. Billions might worship Jesus but all of them fail to do what he commands, and that means you hate Jesus.

And Billions more worship Allah so that means Allah is more real than your Jesus.

I do not care if everyone on the whole entire earth believes something; I will never accept it just because simple minded morons like yourself believe something.

If you had some proof for any of your baseless assertions you would have presented it by now, all you are doing is posturing.

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#661751 Oct 5, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Sunday is a great day to worship our great God who is greatly to be praised.
It may be a great day for you, but it is the WRONG day for Biblegod.

Except for some sabbatarian groups such as the Seventh-Day Adventists, biblicists don't go to church on the correct day. Saturday, not Sunday is the Sabbath. There is no substantive biblical support for calling Sunday--the first day of the week--the Sabbath. As the text says, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work...." (Ex. 20:8-10, Deut. 5:12-14).

Moreover, the prohibition against labor on the Sabbath is regularly violated since work occurs on every day of the week. With respect to labor, it wouldn't matter what day was the Sabbath. Apologist Gleason Archer stated in The Encyclopedia of Biblical Difficulties (p. 116-121) that several facts seem to teach that Sunday replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. He sought to justify the change by alleging:

•(a) Jesus rose on Sunday;
•(b) Jesus' first appearance to his disciples after the Resurrection was on Sunday;
•(c) The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Church first occurred on a Sunday Pentecost;
•(d) Paul told the Corinthian church to put aside money and save on the first day of the week so that no collection would be needed when he arrived (1 Cor. 16:20);
•(e) Paul spoke to a group of Christians until midnight on a Sunday (Acts 20:5-12); and
•(f) The Lord's Day in Rev. 1:10 ("I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet") referred to Sunday.

Problems accompany each explanation.
•(a) Jesus rose on Sunday, but died on a Friday. His death was certainly as important as his Resurrection, if not more so. So why wasn't the Sabbath transferred to Friday?;
•(b) and (C) Why would the fact that Jesus first appeared to his disciples on Sunday or the Holy Spirit first fell on the church on Sunday be of such significance as to overrule God's commandment that the seventh day was to be the Sabbath? They are rather weak reeds to lean on, especially when Archer admits that, "After Pentecost it seems that the Christian community continued to celebrate the seventh-day Sabbath as before, by gathering with other Jews (both converted and unconverted) for the reading of the Torah, for preaching, and for prayer" (Ibid. p. 117). He immediately tried to regain his loss by stating, "But there is no demonstable reference to Christians ever gathering on the Sunday Sabbath to celebrate the Lord's Supper or to hold a distinctively Christian assembly" (Ibid. p. 117). But, then, where is the evidence that they regularly gathered on Sunday to celebrate the Lord's Supper or hold distinctively Christian assemblies?;
•(D) and (E) 1 Cor. 16:2 and Acts 20:5-12, or delivering a sermon on Sunday evening hardly warrant changing the Sabbath; and
•(F) Archer's final contention that the Lord's Day in Rev. 1:10 is Sunday relies upon extra-biblical sources and is wholly unconvincing.
When all is said and done, the basic question remains. Where does the Bible specifically and clearly change the Sabbath to Sunday?

“Life is short. Live it”

Since: Apr 10

Nebraska

#661752 Oct 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
<quoted text>
You have not spoken to Bitner.
I have, she is quite a bitch.
Your comment was out of line.
Your comment was way out of line. Both to Bitner, and now to Al.

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#661753 Oct 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you prove that your God is real?
A matter of faith? Don't be daft!
No such thing as faith.
Bongo has no proof and just skips over that important point and continues on as if it is an established fact that his god exists. It doesn't.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#661754 Oct 5, 2013
This has become a thread for dysfunctional people who have no one else that wants to be around them so they lay all of their insecurities down on the table of Topix. These "dysfunctionates" been here day and night for months (even years for some) and all U here is the same ole low blow comments. Nothing intelligent ever comes from these folks, except from maybe Wikipedia. But anyway, has anyone figured out why we can't see God even though He's there?!?

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#661755 Oct 5, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
It may be a great day for you, but it is the WRONG day for Biblegod.
Except for some sabbatarian groups such as the Seventh-Day Adventists, biblicists don't go to church on the correct day. Saturday, not Sunday is the Sabbath. There is no substantive biblical support for calling Sunday--the first day of the week--the Sabbath. As the text says, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work...." (Ex. 20:8-10, Deut. 5:12-14).
Moreover, the prohibition against labor on the Sabbath is regularly violated since work occurs on every day of the week. With respect to labor, it wouldn't matter what day was the Sabbath. Apologist Gleason Archer stated in The Encyclopedia of Biblical Difficulties (p. 116-121) that several facts seem to teach that Sunday replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. He sought to justify the change by alleging:
•(a) Jesus rose on Sunday;
•(b) Jesus' first appearance to his disciples after the Resurrection was on Sunday;
•(c) The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Church first occurred on a Sunday Pentecost;
•(d) Paul told the Corinthian church to put aside money and save on the first day of the week so that no collection would be needed when he arrived (1 Cor. 16:20);
•(e) Paul spoke to a group of Christians until midnight on a Sunday (Acts 20:5-12); and
•(f) The Lord's Day in Rev. 1:10 ("I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet") referred to Sunday.
Problems accompany each explanation.
•(a) Jesus rose on Sunday, but died on a Friday. His death was certainly as important as his Resurrection, if not more so. So why wasn't the Sabbath transferred to Friday?;
•(b) and (C) Why would the fact that Jesus first appeared to his disciples on Sunday or the Holy Spirit first fell on the church on Sunday be of such significance as to overrule God's commandment that the seventh day was to be the Sabbath? They are rather weak reeds to lean on, especially when Archer admits that, "After Pentecost it seems that the Christian community continued to celebrate the seventh-day Sabbath as before, by gathering with other Jews (both converted and unconverted) for the reading of the Torah, for preaching, and for prayer" (Ibid. p. 117). He immediately tried to regain his loss by stating, "But there is no demonstable reference to Christians ever gathering on the Sunday Sabbath to celebrate the Lord's Supper or to hold a distinctively Christian assembly" (Ibid. p. 117). But, then, where is the evidence that they regularly gathered on Sunday to celebrate the Lord's Supper or hold distinctively Christian assemblies?;
•(D) and (E) 1 Cor. 16:2 and Acts 20:5-12, or delivering a sermon on Sunday evening hardly warrant changing the Sabbath; and
•(F) Archer's final contention that the Lord's Day in Rev. 1:10 is Sunday relies upon extra-biblical sources and is wholly unconvincing.
When all is said and done, the basic question remains. Where does the Bible specifically and clearly change the Sabbath to Sunday?
So based from your cut and paste,
( http://www.guidetosalvation.com/Website/ignor... )

you mean Saturday......

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