Prove there's a god.
Shaddup

Haslet, TX

#658920 Sep 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's freakin awesome, man!
So awesome you waste your life on a Topix forum.

Since: Feb 09

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#658921 Sep 12, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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Eccles. 3:19-21 is pointing out how hopeless life in the flesh is. All flesh eventually fades and returns to the dust it was made from.
Be it human flesh or animal flesh.
I do not need you to tell me it means something other than what it says. I can read, I know what it says, your apologetic is wholly unconvincing.

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#658922 Sep 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Dishonesty and ignorance - a great amount excercised by many so-called "Christians".
Christ-insanity-ists like waaasssuuuppp are stupid, but he is also ignorant and completely dishonest. Good post!
Shaddup

Haslet, TX

#658923 Sep 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Now why would a deity want to live inside my fridge?
Think, son. Think.
Beer. There's none in Heaven. Wait, if Heaven is everywhere, and there is beer here, In Himmel es gibt kein Bier is verkehrt. There, I just proved the non-existence of God.
Shaddup

Haslet, TX

#658924 Sep 12, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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Evolution is a theory, not a conclusion. It is a theory because in the spirit of scientific pursuits, science is always regarded as an unfinished book. Many aspects of evolution especially when you dig into the intricacies of each species evolution, there is numerous debate and competing "theories".
This word "theory" is a big problem for the non-scientific community. The non-scientific community regards "theory" to mean a guess. Or maybe at best, an educated guess. Or even a product of the imagination. While it certainly does not mean a guess in a scientific sense, it also does not mean it is a fact yet. Even if it is a fact, it is at best, an incomplete fact. And no true scientist will ever say the fact is complete.
The moment you start regarding science as a closed book, and open-and-shut case, that's when scientific thinking has left your mind and you enter into the realm of the ego.
There are a series of facts and laws that support Evolution.
Shaddup

Haslet, TX

#658925 Sep 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*Squeezes eyes*
*thinks REAL hard*
I don't know.
You should ask Him that.
Yeah, but it only appears on toast. Toast ain't talking.

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#658926 Sep 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
YEAH TEAM FRANCIS!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/pope...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope...
I wonder why one of the most holy men in the world would say this, when the followers of "Christianity" will rebuke and refute it loudly?
Ignorance of Self would be the correct answer for their responses.
VATICAN CITY (RNS) Once again breaking with traditional Vatican protocol, Pope Francis on Wednesday (Sept. 11) penned a long letter to the Italian liberal daily La Repubblica to affirm that an “open dialogue free of prejudices” between Christians and atheists is “necessary and precious.”

The only problem with this is that the Vatican has the Bible and deeply held beliefs and they only accept what agrees with those two things. Science looks for answers and does not accept nonsense from that collection of ancient Jewish puppet plays Christ-insanity-ists call the Bible.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#658927 Sep 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Mac, the world is sharing your mental problems. You are on an international forum.
Good things gators are tolerant. They would win if you got into an argument.
I know where I am, thank you.

And you have missed the point - the world is NOT sharing your mental problem. In fact, the few who do are rapidly dwindling in number.

Oh, and as to gators, I'd put that at about 25% for the gator.

A couple of 125-grain JHPs at about 1,400 FPS is apt to at least distract 'em.

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#658928 Sep 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I wonder if he will get his hand slapped for going outside Vatican protocol?
At the Vatican if you are bad they plug up your anal orifice. Many priests are very very bad quite often in anticipation of the is "punishment".

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#658929 Sep 12, 2013
RiversideAnalOrifice wrote:
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I don't think that Heaven is up.
I don't believe in a sky daddy. You do.
I keep telling you you need to start putting a period after the third word in your sentences if you want anyone to believe you. What is this like the 18th time?

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#658930 Sep 12, 2013
RiversideAnalOrifice wrote:
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I never get the flu vaccine.
I've never gotten the flu.
Then you should have no problem drinking a quart of Drano God says you can if you are a believer and you claim to be a believer.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#658931 Sep 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I know where I am, thank you.
And you have missed the point - the world is NOT sharing your mental problem. In fact, the few who do are rapidly dwindling in number.
Oh, and as to gators, I'd put that at about 25% for the gator.
A couple of 125-grain JHPs at about 1,400 FPS is apt to at least distract 'em.
The few?

You are the few. Very few, in fact.

We discussed shooting gators in Florida before.

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#658932 Sep 12, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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JESUS: Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters yes, even his own life he cannot be my disciple."
I love it when non-theists quote the Bible. I call it fighting fire with fire! Good post. Post it once, post it twice, post it as often as you can.

Since: Feb 09

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#658933 Sep 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So, where abideth thy deity?
Riverside might be completely stupid but he knows not to give out any information that will back himself in to a corner. Good luck getting an answer from him.

Actually the Bible says his God is EVERYWHERE so when the RiversideAnalOrifice says his God is not in the sky he is calling that very same God a liar.

Of course we all know God lies. I have posted the lies!

Since: Jun 12

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#658934 Sep 12, 2013
Poo pourri



For Rev. Al and all the other atheists intellectuals in Topix.
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#658935 Sep 12, 2013
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>Beer. There's none in Heaven. Wait, if Heaven is everywhere, and there is beer here, In Himmel es gibt kein Bier is verkehrt. There, I just proved the non-existence of God.
O Salutaris Hostia

O saving Victim,
slain to bless,
Who opens heaven's
b r I g h t gates
to all;
The attacks of many
a foe oppress;
Give strength in strife,
and help in fall.
To God, the Three in One,
ascend
All thanks and praise
forevermore;
He grants the life
that shall not end,
Upon the heavenly country's
shore. Amen

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#658936 Sep 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's freakin awesome, man!
From a biblical and theological perspective what is the most important goal of nearly every Christian? To what end are their efforts directed; what's it all for? In a nutshell, it's to save souls from hell and for HEAVEN. Jesus is only a means to that end; he is not the end itself. The overriding purpose is to ferry people into that realm of eternal bliss known as HEAVEN. All the preaching, all the writing, all the time, effort, and money are geared toward that one overarching, all-encompassing aspiration. But, unfortunately, very few of heaven's adherents have seriously thought about all the problems and ramifications, both biblical and practical, associated with what has come to be known as HEAVEN. They haven't thought it through.

Biblically speaking, there are 7 verses and a parable attributing qualities to heaven that range from unacceptable to loathsome. Why would anyone want to cross its threshhold in light of the following? REV. 12:7 ("And there was war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels"). Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. Yet, it experienced a war. How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn't it occur again? Why would anyone want to go to a region in which war can occur when that's precisely what most people are trying to avoid. MATT. 11:12 ("And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth and the violent take it by force"). Violence and force in a perfect place? REV. 19:14 ("And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses...."). Again, the antithetical idea of war in heaven. MATT. 11:11 ("...he that is least in the Kingdom of heaven is greater than he"). How can heaven, the perfect location, have inequality and levels of status? MATT. 24:35 ("Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away"). The verse clearly states that heaven, like earth, will pass away. Why seek a place that will eventually vanish? Mark 13:31 and Luke 21:33 concur. To forestall the back-to-the-Greek defense and reliance upon the assertion that the word "Heaven" is only referring to the sky above, we should note that it comes from the Greek word "ouranos" which is the only word used for "heaven" in all the gospels. MATT. 13:33 and LUKE 13:20-21 ("...The Kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in 3 measures of meal, till the whole was leavened"). How can heaven be utopian when it's like leaven, a contaminant, as several verses show? 1 COR. 5:8 ("Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth"), LEV. 10:12 ("And Moses spake unto Aaron,...Take the meat offering that remaineth of the offerings of the Lord made by fire, and eat it without leaven...for it must be holy"), 1 COR. 5:6 RSV ("Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"), LUKE 12:1 ("...he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy"), and MARK 8:15. MATT. 16:19 ("And I will give unto thee the Keys of the Kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven...."). How could people be bound or restrained in a perfect place of freedom? Perhaps it isn't that free?

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#658937 Sep 12, 2013
Lastly, we have a parable in MATT. 20:1-16 which clearly demonstrates that heaven is the antithesis of a just environment. Briefly stated, the parable is as follows: Early one morning an estate owner went out and hired some workers for his field at $20 per day. Three, 6, 9, and 11 hours later he hired additional workers. Yet, when everyone was paid that evening, they all received the same amount. In 20:1 Jesus equated this arrangement with heaven. Those who worked the entire day understandably grumbled and Jesus related the dialogue that occurred. "...on receiving it they grumbled at the householder, saying,'These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.' But he replied to one of them,'Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for $20. Take what belongs to you, and go; I choose to give to this last as I give to you. Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me?....'"

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#658938 Sep 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>He ever puts in an appearance, I will.
In fact, I have many questions.
Only you stop yourself from asking...

Since: Feb 09

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#658939 Sep 12, 2013
If that's Heaven, Christians are pursuing the kind of milieu that's all too prevalent on earth today. Like war, it's precisely the kind of condition nearly everyone is trying to avoid. For Jesus to quote the landowner (God) as saying, "Friend I am doing you no wrong" is enough to create rejection of Jesus and heaven.While biblical verses show that heaven is far from desirable, many practical problems show it's far from viable. As with the Flood account (See: Issue 11's Commentary) believers must confront the series of practical questions that are engendered. Very few people have taken the time or effort needed to soberly critique what heaven would entail.

(1) If the number of rewards and/or possessions in heaven is equal regardless of productivity, as Jesus stated in his parable, won't that create dissension and a feeling among many that heaven is not what they expected?

(2) The Bible repeatedly says people will be rewarded according to their works--MATT. 16:27 ("For the Son of man shall come...and then he shall reward every man according to his works"), ROM. 2:6 ("...the righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his deeds"), REV. 22:12 ("...my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be"), PSALM 62:12 ("...for thou renderest to every man according to his work"), REV. 20:12 ("...and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works"), and REV. 20:13 ("...and they were judged every man according to their works"). But where does the rewarding occur since this world is certainly not the locale and there is no biblical basis for an intermediate stage such as Purgatory? Apparently it occurs in heaven. If so, will some people in heaven have 6 cadillacs while others will have only 1 or 2, figuretively speaking? How rewards will be dispensed and in what form is a very practical question that's rarely addressed. Since some people committed more good deeds on earth than others, some mechanism must exist by which some will receive more rewards than others. As a result, the inequality so evident on earth will continue in heaven. The heaven described by Jesus in his parable, on the other hand, is one in which rewards for labor are equal regardless of one's efforts. So which is the true heaven? One in which people receive equal rewards regardless of the amount of effort demonstrated or one in which rewards are greater for those who generated the larger number of good deeds?

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