Prove there's a god.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#658099 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>This Blah blah blah rings a bell.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658100 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Great story. But why does christianity not allow people to believe in themselves? This is a huge bone of contention between pagans and vast numbers of christians. I mean, being guided by the hand of god? Christians believe in a god that's "out there," while we pagans believe that our power comes from *within.* Is that why so many christians treat us like shit? Is it because they're jealous?
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
Well there are many in the church that believe that
People who are self centered and absorbed in themselves have no room In their heart for God.
Many believe that that pride gets in the way not only of not being able to love God, but of being able to love each other.(See the story of the Tower of Babel)
I don't think that it is necessarily the case. I have encountered over the years many of the faith that say "let go and let God......" "Pass all your cares to him....." And I'll be honest with you, I've never been very comfortable with that.
Why would God create beings in his own image with the ability to create, endow them with curiosity, intelligence, wit, insight, analytical skills and all the wondrous gifts that allows us to be human and then not allow us to use it because its considered wrong?
It's a fine line Kait. I feel I use these gifts daily but I also thank God daily for my abilities to live an awesome and charmed life too. Many Christians however may feel that its a pride thing to feel this way but I disagree.
I believe God gives us the tools, we just need to pick them up and use them wisely.
Speaking of tools, If a Christian treats you like shit, then it just indicates a personal flaw with them. They must be held personally responsible for their actions in my opinion.
You've heard me state quite often that any idiot can wield a hammer to destroy but it takes an intelligent person to use that hammer to build.
Peace Kait.
Nicely thought out.

But to have faith in one's self, I just don't see that as pride or self-centeredness. What's that line from the bible, "God helps those who help themselves?" I don't feel dependent on a god that's "out there" somewhere, I rely on myself. When I'm doing a spell, I'm not asking any god or goddess to do something for me; I channel that energy myself. Gods are basically just metaphors; they're just various forces of Nature to whom early mankind assigned human personalities in order to make it easier for themselves to petition these various natural forces for aid, comfort, etc. Abraham was the guy who started running around claiming, "There's only *one* god, and *I* speak for him!"

I blame that putz Abraham for all the religious contention in the world.

“Don't try to goad me...”

Since: Nov 07

... I'm a goadless heathen.

#658101 Sep 6, 2013
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Jesus.
What do you want?
Let me in.
Why do you want in?
I want to save you.
Save me from what?
From what I'm gonna do to you if you don't let me in!

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658102 Sep 6, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
L O V E is the motive of Christ and.....
The Crusades. The Inquisition. Burning people at the stake. Salem. Hanging innocent people. Sand Creek, Wounded Knee. Hitler and Nazism. Joseph McCarthy and the Red Scare. The hate mongers of the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition and Operation: Rescue.

This is your Orwellian idea of "christ's love."

You don't even obey your own god's rules, yet you expect everyone else to obey them.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#658103 Sep 6, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called "Faith" Alan.
Faith is an expression of hope for something better even if it is unseen.
We all (even an atheist) acts in faith when the world offers no guarantee, no certainty. No one knows what kind of life an infant will have, yet people continue to have children. No one can know how life with our mates will turn out, yet we continue to have faith our relationships will last a lifetime.
However, when we as Christians act out on our faith, it is the evidence of things not seen. Faith is the source of a Christian's strength and that belief places us in God's plan for mankind. Through our faith Christians anticipate the future of God's promises and act in faith in our day to day activity knowing that we are in God's plan.
you cannot see the sadness, the subjugation, the desperation;

the delusion?

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#658104 Sep 6, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
JESUS: Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters yes, even his own life he cannot be my disciple."
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That verse has been explained to you at least three times and yet you still post it as if no one's seen it before....
you have apologetic to turn that filth into something else?

what a shit stain you really are
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#658105 Sep 6, 2013
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
"However they cannot control showing their locations."
And why do you hide your location?
You don't have to worry about living in a trailer park.
I won't judge you.
God doesn't like trailer parks.
They always get tornados.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658106 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You don't even believe in your own god enough to obey its rules.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
dear Allen, the #1 "rule" on which the New Covenant is founded on, is to believe on the Name of the Son of God.
I BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD - waaasssuuup
now what accusation do you have against me?:)
It wasn't him, idiot, it was me. Talk about cognitive problems.

*YOU* said "Jesus is God."

The Ten Commandments are God's Commandments--that means, according to you, they are Jesus's Commandments.

According to you, jesus said:
ONE:'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

According to you, jesus said:
TWO:'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

According to you, jesus said:
THREE:'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

According to you, jesus said:
FOUR:'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

According to you, jesus said:
FIVE:'Honor your father and your mother.'

According to you, jesus said:
SIX:'You shall not kill.'

According to you, jesus said:
SEVEN:'You shall not commit adultery.'

According to you, jesus said:
EIGHT:'You shall not steal.'

According to you, jesus said:
NINE:'You shall not lie.'

According to you, jesus said:
TEN:'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

And you refuse to obey your jesus. First you said they're god's laws, and when you don't want to obey they you claim they're ancient Jewish laws that you don't have to obey. Why do you deliberately disobey your jesus's laws?

It's a simple enough question, even for someone like you.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#658107 Sep 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I dunno....
I have sex, so this cyber sex stuff bewilders me.
sure

the list is long, I don't doubt you.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658108 Sep 6, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"Beat this: why don't you obey your own god's rules?"
see previous post and concede defeat like the honest and noble chap that you fancy yourself to be....:-)
Answer my question: Why do you disobey your god's laws?

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658109 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
It's not jewish law, it's your "god's" law. You don't get that real well, do you?
<quoted text>
Yeah; you and Ariel Castro.
C*cksucker.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!! is it any wonder why i like chatting with you so much:)
Answer the question: Why do you disobey your god's laws?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#658110 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
Please explain what awesome means.
macumazahn wrote:
Evoking or generating awe.
I know you're a smart man, mac, and I hate to disagree wth you, but...

The definition of awesome is...

...

...

...RR...

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658111 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one who keeps telling us that gays are an "abomination" to your (chuckle!) lord. Now you're claiming to *be* gay?
WTF??
<quoted text>
Translation: "The buybull tells us that homosexuality is an abomination, and I believe it--except for when I fantasize about it."
<quoted text>
And that's what makes you a hypocrite.
"I always believe jesus, except for when I don't want to." ~ Waaasssuuup
<quoted text>
I understand that's a lie, and that your jesus never existed.
Why do you refuse to address what I posted, hypocrite?
Oh, wait; I just answered my own question, didn't I?
Never mind.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
yes - you did answer your own question: you don't believe Jesus and i do so there's a great gulf fixed between us and you can't come where i am and i won't go where you are....:-(
No, I don't believe in your jesus; you say you do. Therefore, you are obligated to obey his laws. Why don't you?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#658112 Sep 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
Reverend Alan wrote:
JESUS: Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters yes, even his own life he cannot be my disciple."
<quoted text>
you have apologetic to turn that filth into something else?
what a shit stain you really are
No apologetics.

Explanation.

Not that I would expect freethinkers to freethink about that, you're programmed not to.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658113 Sep 6, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
why? try to tell me that you wouldn't rather have steph like this-).( rather than like this-)O(!
How very christian of you. I'm sure your jesus approves. But then, you don't even care if he does or not, do you?

You're a pig.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658114 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Right.*You* can judge everyone,'cause you got jeebus.
Testa di merde.
<quoted text>
And when did I state that?
Tsk tsk, there goes Commandment #9 again. You have so little for "jesus/god's" rules, yet you expect *me* to obey them.
<quoted text>
Oooh, and a racist, too! Are you with the KKK by any chance?
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"And when did I state that?"
oh i see...it's in the witch wolf creed book to be able to falsely quote others, but they aren't allowed to do it back,
I don't; I don't need to. You christians need to. There goes #9 again. You must really *hate* being told by your jesus, "You shall not lie."

Why don't you obey your jesus?

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#658115 Sep 6, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! as long as you're in my grill, Al, i'm certain that i'm doing something right!
can we be friends?:)
why would you want that

and whom do you expect is going to want to be friends with a pervert such as you display?

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658116 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
You have your christian system confused with the EDUCATIONAL system.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i honestly LOVE your rebellious attitude, kait,
No you don't. Stop breaking jesus's rule #9: You shall not lie.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>but it's aimed in the wrong direction and you're only shooting yourself in the foot:-(
You're an interesting combination: you hate jesus *and* you hate education.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#658117 Sep 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
It depends on whether you're talking about Nature or your invisible sky daddy, whose rules you break on a regular basis.
<quoted text>
There is definitely an earth. Heaven? That's in Stephanie's eyes.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"It depends on whether you're talking about Nature or..."
the goodness and glory in Nature speaks of the goodness and glory of the Creator;
Nature is the creator. Or creatrix (fem. form, as in from Mother Nature.)

I understand why you hate Nature so much; look what it did to *you.*

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#658118 Sep 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

I dunno....
I have sex, so this cyber sex stuff bewilders me.
karl44 wrote:
sure
the list is long, I don't doubt you.
I'm sure you know all about cyber sex, karl.

You're probably really "good" at it.

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