Prove there's a god.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#654653 Aug 21, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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I do not do business with anyone who actively claims to be a christian
Is that like a don't ask, don't tell kind of policy?

They guy I was referring to was a total shyster. He was trying to explain to me (sell) the benefits of his products towards my business.
Now I've been in my line of work over 20 years and I'd say that I know it inside in out.
When I asked him a few basic questions, his eyes got all big and he stepped back like he was in shock while putting his hand to his chest. He then told me "I wouldn't lie....... I'm a Christian!"

I just found it appalling to me how someone would use that tactic to earn a sale.

I found that as distasteful as a homeless person trying to guilt trip me with a "God Bless you" on a cardboard sign to earn a few bucks to go buy night train or Boones Farm or NyQuil or whatever they use to get smashed.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654654 Aug 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Hiding, this is not the only story of similar paranormal events there are.
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Technology/st...
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/07/re...
That second link is the skeptical view of it. Let's take a look at its skeptical basis.
Young James was transfixed by airplanes at an air museum. At 18 months old. This was what started an 18 month old boy, who had nightmares afterwards, on his path of self delusion according to their skeptical rationale.
How does an 18 month old child even grasp what an airplane really is? What, out of hundreds of technological marvels he is encountering in his newly awakening awareness cause such a thing to trigger such an obsession? How many other thousands and thousands and thousands of other young boys have had a similar exposure to airplanes and came up with recalls like that, with the supporting skeptical "coincidences".
That is just the first of many subjective objective analysis by our skeptic there.
There are recorded and documented instances of people speaking languages they never heard before, and a veritable plethora of similar seeming intact consciousnesses embedded within an individual that came to the forefront after traumatic experiences. You don't get those from cultural and religious training.
"But professor Paul Kurtz of the State University of New York at Buffalo, who heads an organization that investigates claims of the paranormal, says he thinks the parents are "self-deceived."

"They're fascinated by the mysterious and they built up a fairy tale," he said."

from skeptic:

"Looks pretty conclusive from the way it was presented on ABC, yes? Actually no. The TV company, looking for ratings rather than the truth, didn’t tell the full story."

and

"This young boy, not unusually, is excited by the planes, and remembers the name of the distinctive Corsair he saw with the unusual gull-wing, plus many other details, including things his mother didn’t remember, such as these drop fuel tanks that are also displayed at the museum.

Naturally, this small boy was fascinated by warplanes and he remembered obscure details about them that his mother didn’t. Of course, he enjoyed showing off this knowledge to her, later.

However, although he was excited by the planes, the images of WWII battles also frightened him, and they soon began to give him nightmares about being trapped in a plane on fire.

This is when the real problem starts. The child’s grandmother, for no obvious rational reason I can think of, suggests he is remembering a past life."

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654655 Aug 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i hate to pull rank, but my anthropoly doctorate superceeds yours:
"IN THE BEGINNING, GOD..."
1. "anthropoly" isn't a word

2. why are you lying about your profession? You're not an anthropologist, you're just a believer of a religion.

3. Why can't you just be honest and claim it as a belief?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654656 Aug 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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oh yeah - and you're NOT AT ALL bigoted against christianity/christians, are you?
too funny (but very hypocritical indeed)!;)
1. Instead of addressing your poor behavior, you deflect and make something up about me.

2. I'm not bigoted toward Christians. I don't use the word "Christian" to discriminate or categorize entire groups of people.

3. I have written that short earth, science denying Creationists are ignorant and uneducated though.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654657 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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It's the usage of the words that connotes a condescending phrase.
"Goddidit" is an atheist thing.
Notice, however, that I am using "God did it" rather than the pejorative that you are using.

Anyways, claiming that "God did it" is not knowledge. It's intellectual laziness.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654658 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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Well written.
So we're all right AND we're all wrong.
It was well written because only I am right.

Just like every believer of every religion, I know I have the one, true worldview.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#654659 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
It was well written because only I am right.
Just like every believer of every religion, I know I have the one, true worldview.
To equate all ways of knowing, you must stop caring about what is actually true. If you care about what is actually true, only rational skepticism and its derivatives have a solid track record in that arena.

Islam and Christianity are roughly equivalent. They display about the same level of wrongness.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#654661 Aug 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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To equate all ways of knowing, you must stop caring about what is actually true. If you care about what is actually true, only rational skepticism and its derivatives have a solid track record in that arena.
Islam and Christianity are roughly equivalent. They display about the same level of wrongness.
That's a very good point, Tide. You might be on to the path of scientific methodologies.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#654662 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Instead of addressing your poor behavior, you deflect and make something up about me.
2. I'm not bigoted toward Christians. I don't use the word "Christian" to discriminate or categorize entire groups of people.
3. I have written that short earth, science denying Creationists are ignorant and uneducated though.
But you love me anyway.......:D

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#654663 Aug 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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To equate all ways of knowing, you must stop caring about what is actually true. If you care about what is actually true, only rational skepticism and its derivatives have a solid track record in that arena.
Islam and Christianity are roughly equivalent. They display about the same level of wrongness.
Yeah the two boobs of belief Islam and Christianity :)
The Truth is Known

Phoenix, AZ

#654664 Aug 21, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
But you love me anyway
The Truth is Known...

You're still a death-denying cowardly Christian cultist even though it's been explained to you repeatedly that organized religion is a hoax. A coward deserves contempt not love!

Christian Cowardice in Pascal's Wager...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#654665 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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It was well written because only I am right.
Just like every believer of every religion, I know I have the one, true worldview.
Well you may be right.

But I'm awesome.

So there.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#654667 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Notice, however, that I am using "God did it" rather than the pejorative that you are using.
Anyways, claiming that "God did it" is not knowledge. It's intellectual laziness.
But what do I know, I'm just a h*nky.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#654668 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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"But professor Paul Kurtz of the State University of New York at Buffalo, who heads an organization that investigates claims of the paranormal, says he thinks the parents are "self-deceived."
"They're fascinated by the mysterious and they built up a fairy tale," he said."
from skeptic:
"Looks pretty conclusive from the way it was presented on ABC, yes? Actually no. The TV company, looking for ratings rather than the truth, didn’t tell the full story."
and
"This young boy, not unusually, is excited by the planes, and remembers the name of the distinctive Corsair he saw with the unusual gull-wing, plus many other details, including things his mother didn’t remember, such as these drop fuel tanks that are also displayed at the museum.
Naturally, this small boy was fascinated by warplanes and he remembered obscure details about them that his mother didn’t. Of course, he enjoyed showing off this knowledge to her, later.
However, although he was excited by the planes, the images of WWII battles also frightened him, and they soon began to give him nightmares about being trapped in a plane on fire.
This is when the real problem starts. The child’s grandmother, for no obvious rational reason I can think of, suggests he is remembering a past life."
You go ahead and believe their beliefs if you wish. It's your reality. You can also go back and read what you wrote that I responded to.

Someday I may explain to you why your learning your first language has interfered with your development in learning and understanding. Has to do with phonetic sounds and associations having to be modified by additional layers to accommodate the new language and associations, The initial imprint from a particular sound doesn't get erased, it gets patched over.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#654669 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
"But professor Paul Kurtz of the State University of New York at Buffalo, who heads an organization that investigates claims of the paranormal, says he thinks the parents are "self-deceived."
"They're fascinated by the mysterious and they built up a fairy tale," he said."
from skeptic:
"Looks pretty conclusive from the way it was presented on ABC, yes? Actually no. The TV company, looking for ratings rather than the truth, didn’t tell the full story."
and
"This young boy, not unusually, is excited by the planes, and remembers the name of the distinctive Corsair he saw with the unusual gull-wing, plus many other details, including things his mother didn’t remember, such as these drop fuel tanks that are also displayed at the museum.
Naturally, this small boy was fascinated by warplanes and he remembered obscure details about them that his mother didn’t. Of course, he enjoyed showing off this knowledge to her, later.
However, although he was excited by the planes, the images of WWII battles also frightened him, and they soon began to give him nightmares about being trapped in a plane on fire.
This is when the real problem starts. The child’s grandmother, for no obvious rational reason I can think of, suggests he is remembering a past life."
I mentioned this earlier.

http://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-s...

You believe a 18 month or two year old has the ability to form that kind of story with those kind of details? Enough to watch movies and actually understand all that he sees to create such a story? Enough to give him nightmares? Enough to understand things like death, for one.

Tells us about your 2 year old world view.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#654670 Aug 21, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Greetings, fair witch
Ciao, bello!

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#654671 Aug 21, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Does it hurt to be stupid?
Not him; he's gotten used to it.

Come stai, Bats?

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#654672 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I know. The atheist "poofing" & "Goddidit" remarks are analogous to the theist "fish can't grow legs" remarks.
Some fish did. It took a few generations, but they did.

Didn't you ever go to school? Never mind, it's a rhetorical question.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#654673 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I know. The atheist "poofing" & "Goddidit" remarks are analogous to the theist "fish can't grow legs" remarks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_fish

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

You were saying?

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#654674 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I said "black people are born that way" and you take such offense?
If you think that gay people are born that way, you're more than welcome to prove that idea right.
In the meantime, we true freethinkers will go on thinking that people choose sexuality and that NO infant has a sexual desire.
You--a slave to your superstition and religion, who believes only what he's told to believe by his pastor--call yourself a free-thinker?

How's that work?

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