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#649062 Aug 4, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Nope, don't think so.
You didn't respond.
I could be wrong.
Show me, if I am.
smirk

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#649063 Aug 4, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Why don't I just start PMing you my general thoughts, and you post them here in more specific detail?
Not that *we* need to start doing that.
You've been doing it anyway without any PMs from me.
BTW...
<quoted text>
I misread RR's statement.
There's a period there in the middle.
Sorry 'bout that, RR.
do not apologize
it was a set-up

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#649064 Aug 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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<quoted text>
There are many intelligent believers and many ignorant non-believers. And vice versa.
Why do you assume that only ignorant people can be religious?
Are you unaware of the many highly intelligent people that are religious?
you are not qualified to make such a judgement

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#649065 Aug 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Can't you figure that out?
<quoted text>
Then why do Walmart & Home Depot cashiers get reprimanded or fired for wearing a "merry Christmas" button at Christmas?!
the store looses sales

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#649066 Aug 4, 2013
DUMBOS wrote:
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Can you?
define : "god"
Greens - tuf

Sydney, Australia

#649067 Aug 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
the store looses sales

Loose sails are not good while sailing.

Stores losing sales is not good for business.

Who's the idiot?
You are the idiot.
Greens - tuf

Sydney, Australia

#649068 Aug 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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All traditions are imagined and glorified. The tree isn't even a Christian symbol. Kind of like the Easter bunny.
What do you think the tree represents?

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#649069 Aug 4, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>As you said, it was a ritual, not everyday use as people would today if made legal. You can't do a whole lot under the influence of peyote. Sit back and enjoy things that are not there. Or not enjoy. It's like that. How do you know Means would not have been corrupted by power like all the rest?
good way to meet god

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#649070 Aug 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No, it was not official policy to experiment on humans - but some Nazi doctors did.
No, it was not official policy to make products out of humans, and only very few were done.
And you know what? It may not have been official policy, but the atmosphere created by the Third Reich allowed for such atrocities to be committed. What Hitler created was grossly immoral - using the word "evil" here is not mistaken to describe the utter debasement of human beings so that other human beings could treat them as non-people.
Yes, it was policy to starve some prisoners, especially near the end of the war, when it was apparent they were going to lose. They were in death camps after all. It was Nazi policy to eliminate these people. I doubt if the Nazis cared if it was starvation or disease that did them in.
Hitler spoke of eliminating the Jews, Gypsies and gays - you think he was joking? "Oops, my death camps are killing people. Who knew?"
Yes, they deliberately gassed people to kill them. Plenty of evidence exists for this.
The first author you list is a joke. Might as well disregard him.
The second is serious, and brings a useful perspective to history - the plight of Germans after the war. I hate to say this, but that's kind of obvious. After all Germany gambled and failed, and in the doing so, destroyed much of Europe. That they were going to starve seems pretty obvious - Europeans at that time were doing their best not to starve. After all, crops were bombed out, transportation systems widely destroyed.
It wasn't just the Germans who suffered after WWII ended - probably all Europeans did - but I can imagine they suffered the worst.
The Japanese did, too. Again, largely the consequence of the Emperor not giving up and, in the process of trying to maintain the war effort, destroying Japan's lumber, fishing and farming industries
If someone invades my country, then they would find some people kidnapping kids, chopping them and trying to make herbal medicine. Is that South African policy? Nope. Should we be blamed for such things? Nope.

It's like an add on effect. The Nazis did this and that, but might as well add on all the other stuff like skin lampshades and soap. Mind you, such things can and do happen in the most civilised countries and in the absence of war.

David Irving may be a quack, but he is not a joke. He is the only person who has interviewed members of Hitlers inner circle. No other historian bothered to do that. Don't you find that irresponsible? In our country, now that Apartheid is gone, but we still have the whole story from the blacks and the whites perspective. Yet for the largest war in history no one cared for the losers perspective?

Hitler rants of a lot of things in his Mein Kampf. But was it policy? Biography and policy is not the same thing. Concentration camps are used for a variety of reasons, usually starting off as a humane way to hold civilians during a war, but ending off as a disaster as resources become scarce, camps get overpopulated, and disease spreads.

Don't you find it weird that they make the fit ones work in the camp, while the weak ones were killed? And the work was menial stuff. Nonsense. One would think that if it was policy to kill them all, the fittest ones should go first. Why are there survivors? It quite clearly suggests that the camps started off as holding facilities and ended off as death camps due to overpopulation and disease.

But the whole thing has become so mythical, that usually the most evil version of it is regarded as truth. But the most evil version has little evidence.

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#649071 Aug 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm glad you're admitting that God and Satan are as real as Hitler but I'm curious as to why you think God is worse.
read both
Mein Kampf and the bible

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

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#649072 Aug 4, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Which is what my take is on what TT is trying to do.
It matters not that Hitler was a good public speaker- and that is only opinion anyway- nor does it matter that he was a vegetarian and that he loved animals.
The man was a madman and ANY "good" anyone could find in him means NOTHING when weighed against his capabilities to commit some of the most heinous and unspeakably atrocious acts against humankind- a capability he saw to fruition.
This is the mentality. To present anything objective about him, in your mind equates to devillainizing him.

He was a good public speaker. That is not opinion. That is fact. The fact the majority of Germany followed him is proof of that.

And I have never weighed anything.

To you, a good studier of Hitler's life is one who can say the worst things about him. But that's not the way history works.

“Michin yeoja”

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#649073 Aug 4, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone invades my country, then they would find some people kidnapping kids, chopping them and trying to make herbal medicine. Is that South African policy? Nope. Should we be blamed for such things? Nope.
It's like an add on effect. The Nazis did this and that, but might as well add on all the other stuff like skin lampshades and soap. Mind you, such things can and do happen in the most civilised countries and in the absence of war.
David Irving may be a quack, but he is not a joke. He is the only person who has interviewed members of Hitlers inner circle. No other historian bothered to do that. Don't you find that irresponsible? In our country, now that Apartheid is gone, but we still have the whole story from the blacks and the whites perspective. Yet for the largest war in history no one cared for the losers perspective?
Hitler rants of a lot of things in his Mein Kampf. But was it policy? Biography and policy is not the same thing. Concentration camps are used for a variety of reasons, usually starting off as a humane way to hold civilians during a war, but ending off as a disaster as resources become scarce, camps get overpopulated, and disease spreads.
Don't you find it weird that they make the fit ones work in the camp, while the weak ones were killed? And the work was menial stuff. Nonsense. One would think that if it was policy to kill them all, the fittest ones should go first. Why are there survivors? It quite clearly suggests that the camps started off as holding facilities and ended off as death camps due to overpopulation and disease.
But the whole thing has become so mythical, that usually the most evil version of it is regarded as truth. But the most evil version has little evidence.

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#649074 Aug 4, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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My only issue with weapons security in the home is, if it is too secure (under lock and key), how is one supposed to get at it in time to stop something such as a home-invasion?
why do you think it ethical to take a life for a robbery.

and when you brandish a weapon you give the other incentive to take your life

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#649075 Aug 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> My question to Karl is how could Nancy Lanza stop Adam from stealing her guns after he shot her in the head and took her keys? And why she should be charged post mortem and lose her right to own one?
Dig her up try her and jail her corpse?
find her responsible

yes

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#649076 Aug 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because on a daily basis, each Walmart store gets thousands of customers. That increases at Christmas time.
Why shun Christmas from the picture to satisfy a few fanatics?
It seems a lot of people are missing the "good ole days" of Christmas.
<quoted text>
Agreed.
But not at Christmas.
I've gotten really sick of the "holiday" this n that.
They call them holiday gifts and holiday cards and holiday presents..... Ugh. The friggin holiday IS Christmas.
At Halloween, Walmart puts up "Happy Halloween" stuff, not "Happy NonDenominational Holiday" stuff.
Same for every other holiday, except Christmas.
Real fair.
We Christians are getting sick of it and are working to bring back our Christmas traditions and damn the people that don't like it.
the holiday is Saturnalia
Greens - tuf

Sydney, Australia

#649077 Aug 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
morality strait from the bible
Morality straight from the bible.

Who's the idiot?
Yes you are.
Greens - tuf

Sydney, Australia

#649078 Aug 4, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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I think most of us are fair and reasonable.....just not prone to superstition.
Yep, you are a fair employer .
Turning a blind eye to you're stoned staff just goes to show how fair and reasonable you truly are.
Greens - tuf

Sydney, Australia

#649079 Aug 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Exactly.
Ignorance breeds this sort of mentality.
Anything that isn't familiar constitutes a threat.
It's the hick thing.

"Anything that isn't familiar constitutes a threat."

That's called survival, it's a trait that every living thing on earth should and doe's have.
If you "had" kids and took them down to a lake for the first time would you just sit back and let them run and jump into that lake ?
No you would not because you are not familiar with that
lake , you would first have to asses the dangers.
That's called "risk management".
massena guy

New York, NY

#649080 Aug 4, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Come on and do it.
Prove there's a god.
Don;t read off scripture or anything like that just prove there's a god.
prove that there isnt a god....

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#649081 Aug 4, 2013
massena guy wrote:
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prove that there isnt a god....
you as an ambassador

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