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#647481
Jul 31, 2013
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Good for you. Some of us feel the need to speak truth to lunacy.
*rolls eyes*

Go ahead, speak truth. I'll listen.
Also, I feel you are being dishonest. If you lived in a majority muslim nation, and found your rights being infringed on by the majority, I would hope you would speak up.
How is that comparable? Are your rights as an atheist infringed upon??
If your children were in danger of being taught some nonsensical muslim version of creation, or in danger of being taught bad science because of muslim influence, or if your loved ones were in danger of disease because of rabidly anti science muslim people, again, I would hope you would speak up.
'danger'? Lol, yer kinda nutty, aincha?

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Jul 31, 2013
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, what'd you think? I doubt you'd find someone who would claim that all catholics are evil. I think their beliefs are potentially harmful, and that the "boys club," us vs them mentality that religion fosters is definitely part of the problem in that it encourages silence; but I think it's more of an institutional problem, not that the average catholic actually wants to support pedophilia. They just happen to.
Religion fosters an "us vs them" mentality??

Christianity doesn't....

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Jul 31, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I didn't necessarily, I just posed a challenge.
Why?

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Jul 31, 2013
 
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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You would have made a fine Nazi.
Yes, of course the Nazis had family picnics and so on - sure, they were human and loved their family.
And, yes, they carried out the first genocide using modern technology. It's very well recorded - mostly by the Nazis themselves.
Nah. While there are some really great principles, I don't particularly like nationalism or socialism in general. I'm more for federalism and capitalism.

But I assume you meant that as some kind of insult, to call me a Nazi. This is the mentality nowadays. One has to believe the most sick and heinous version of the story, and if one believes anything less then they are branded neo-Nazi or holocaust deniers or whatever else.

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#647485
Jul 31, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Are you dizzy from swinging that bucket in circles?
As the bucket slows down it starts pointing toward the ground. You won't spill a drop. Unless you fall over dizzy.
Horizontal to your body? Now if you swung it parallel to your body, while standing up, vertical to the ground, then you might get some sloshing out as it decelerates and arrives at its limit of overcoming gravity. If it isn't a swivel handle.
You need to give more thought to your examples and experiments. That was pretty bad.
Lol it was. Should have implied 'in a vertical axis'. I do not type these posts in one go, though. We are a little short staffed and every so often I have a bit of work to get done. Then I come back and type on, without reading my post. Oops.

Oh Dave Nelson, you can be Jeff Probst. From Survivor

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Jul 31, 2013
 
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In wooded areas hunters will often walk right by a deer laying very still in the brush. Just feet away.
Yeah. Even bigger species like your elk or our kudu, they have the ability to be completely swallowed up by the surrounding foliage

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#647487
Jul 31, 2013
 
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Uh. I don't recollect us discussing endorsement fees.
For the DIY types.
Take about a 12 foot length of iron fencing wire, about 20 gauge and zinc coated would work. Get a wood dowel of about 3/4 inch. A bench vise will be handy.
Find the middle of the wire and start winding from the middle onto the dowel in a left hand twist. That would be holding your right thumb on the center of the wire, clamping it to the dowel, then winding from there down in the front and up in the back proceeding to the left. Looking from the middle or from the end the wire will go counterclockwise. After you get that half all wound release your thumb and slide the coil you made off and gather it into a circular cross section. You are making a donut. Clamp the bottom of that donut in the vise with the middle and remaining half of the wire up top running to the left. Leave the hole exposed. From the middle start winding the loose half counterclockwise around the donut and to the left. You have to thread the end through the hole and wind like you did on the dowel, but around a circle. It will go around most of the circle. When you finish bend the last 2 or so inches perpendicular to the flat portion of the coil, and also the last 2 or so inches of the free end of the first coil. It will look like a donut with two toothpicks stuck outwards from the edge.
You can heat it up with a torch to orange hot to get rid of any residual magnetism.
Now take a piece of light fishing mono or thread and tie it to a loop opposite the ends sticking out. You have a hanging donut with toothpicks sticking out from the bottom. You can tie a barrel swivel a few inches up to lessen the effects of any twist in the line. After it is hung up you may want to bend the legs to help balance the hanging coil, or give it a more aesthetic look. This will be a coil of 2 to 3 inch diameter and some weight.
Hang it up in a nice quiet corner where you can keep an eye on it, where you can glance up at it. Try to keep it away from appliances that emit EM.
What you just did was create a feedback coil. Any EM waves hitting it induces an electrical current which then induces a magnetic field around the wires which then induce a magnetic field in the perpendicular coils. Kind of a charged inductive capacitor hanging in the air. It is the same principle as if you wound it with copper wire and fastened the ends together to form a continuous loop, but a lot more sensitive because of the iron and multitude of smaller fields from the uninsulated wires.
Observe it for a few months. It can get quite energetic, and at other times very quiet. Quiet enough that it will react to your staring at it or passing near it. It will be slow, but it will start moving and oscillating. The charge and discharge causes it to oscillate, combined with inertia. The gravity keeps it locked. The only reason it can move otherwise is vibration or a breeze, You can do what you want to mitigate those effects.
During the first months of the year I have seen one I made oscillate like crazy, and even twist several times in one direction, then rise up almost parallel to the floor. Not "swinging", but pivoting from where the string was attached with just a bit of swing to it. Kind of like doing an "L" from your wrists. Therein lies a serious tale to be told.
It gets charged from the ambient EM and then reacts to changes, sort of like what we do.
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<quoted text>And as IF I would listen to someone about the founding of this country who is too ignorant to know that "comprende" is Spanish for "understand" and who thought my use of "comprende" was a typo which you "tee heed" about.
PA-THETIC.
This is a really good point. People with very limited mental abilities, people who have nothing going for themselves find they can pretend they know something by telling others about Jesus and other subjects their Con-artist at the front of their church scams them with.

It is sad that they feel so useless and worthless from their lack of social and educational abilities and that all that is left for them is a career in pretending they know something about Jesus.

In the same way a telemarketer calls our house, I always inform them that they can't be serious believing I would do business with someone who is so stupid as to annoy me with a phone call.

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Jul 31, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I didn't necessarily, I just posed a challenge.
What were you hoping to achieve?

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<quoted text>Here ya go:
The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was the first treaty concluded between the United States of America and Tripolitania, signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796 and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.
The treaty was a routine diplomatic agreement but has attracted later attention because the English version included a clause about religion in the United States.
******As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,*******—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripol...
Just as our GOVERNMENT was not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, our NATION was not, in any sense, founded on it either.
I guess you got your education at a college started by the RCC which RR was referring to earlier when he LIED and said "most" colleges were started by the RCC.
You godbots sure are an insecure lot- you all have to lie and actually make sh*t up to defend your beliefs.
How very sad.....
It is sad. And if America was a Christian country [as our resident pew warmers would like us to believe] how kind would it be to force everyone who did not want to go along with it, to go along with it?

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Jul 31, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I didn't necessarily, I just posed a challenge.
You complained that in the time since your first post, no one has answered your challenge... yet, you ask me to stop when I ask you to prove there's a god on thread titled 'Prove there's a god'.

Why?

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Reverend Alan wrote:
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This is a really good point. People with very limited mental abilities, people who have nothing going for themselves find they can pretend they know something by telling others about Jesus and other subjects their Con-artist at the front of their church scams them with.
It is sad that they feel so useless and worthless from their lack of social and educational abilities and that all that is left for them is a career in pretending they know something about Jesus.
In the same way a telemarketer calls our house, I always inform them that they can't be serious believing I would do business with someone who is so stupid as to annoy me with a phone call.
I always pretend to be interested. Get them to call and when they ask me where the car is parked, I tell them that the door locks are broken, so I close it with a wire. I leave it in the street, in an area with lots of crime. When they ask me whonthe regular drivers are, I say something to the extent of 'the guy least drunk' or something of the sorts. Do I have a sound system? Yes, a big one. I keep it playing all through the night, where it is parked in the street. Once or twice, I have actually made it to being quoted. The rest of the guys are savvy enough to know that I am just playing

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I didn't necessarily, I just posed a challenge.
Why did you call me a liar?

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<quoted text>And I produced the post for him, which he will now NIT PICK to DEATH because he said "seated" in the soul rather than "stems" from the soul.
Sit back and watch- just be sure you have plenty of popcorn!
As to your questions, RR WON'T give up his dishonest tactics because he CAN'T- they are as much a part of him as the "soul" he believes he possesses and which he has "deemed" responsible for our emotions.
Is microwave popcorn OK?

Good point, RR won't because he can't, exactly right. He falsely believes he has free will and decides his thoughts, feelings, indeed everything that he calls his life, but he is a prisoner and a slave to his upbringing and he does not know how to escape from it. Not that anyone can escape from their baggage, but one can see it for what it is and stop manifesting from it, stop believing hearsay is indisputable fact.

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#647496
Jul 31, 2013
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>How would one test for a "spirit," exactly?
Hell if I know.

I'll leave that for the pros.

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Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Everyone has an opinion and there are those who disagree with you too.
TRANSLATION: Only Christian opinions are real and true, if you don't love Jesus like I do then you only have an opinion which is not as good as my Jesus opinion. There, I am glad I put an end to all the confusion. I needed that self-congratulation.

Translation provided by His Holiness Reverend Alan.

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Jul 31, 2013
 
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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#647499
Jul 31, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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RR makes Buck seem honest by comparison.
I wish I had time to give thumbs up on all the good posts, but getting here this morning I am 16 hours behind and will have to go through the list pretty quickly and I know I will miss something.

What with 5 different discussion going on in one thread, it does get a bit busy.

Good post, completely objective, an impartial observation.

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Jul 31, 2013
 
Double Fine wrote:

1. Your first mistake is that you look dor sense when everything is insane. Of course, the mythological deity turning a sbake into a snake is not logical. Is the deity putting a tree of good and evil in Eden logical? How avout the talking Donkey of Billeam? How about turning water into wine? Are those logical? How about the deity having a "son". Is that logical? Hiw about the deity sending itself to earth to pay for the sins of mankind and then rise up from the dead? Is that logical? The deity is clained to be omnipotent, why not just smite Satan right there where he sits? Your second mistake, is thinking you can play word games and get away with it. I did it, in order to get you to admit to an animal being smited into a snake - an unnatural occurence. But the fact here, is that any Hebrew man who reads that word will describe the creature in context as a snake. He will identify at you out of a picture book, or at a local zoo. Furthermore, to play word games with ancient texts, is really, really, really stupid.
2. No, they are wrong. We are right. They based their classification of birds and bats only on flying. Kind of like a young child would do. When I was small, I naturally assumed that bats and birds were close enough to be kissing cousins, because they both flew. But, we knkw a lot more about their anatomy, morphology, behaviour, wing structure and evolution than the ancients did. Whereas the ancients 'classified'(a better term would be 'reckoned') a bat as a bird merely because of flight, we classify it as a rodent because of a great deal more evidence. The fact that your "word of gawd" classify it as a bird, tells me that your "omniscient" deity has the anatomical kowledge of a four year old.
3. You aleays use this example, not knowing how stupid it is. Yes, had I taken a zippo, and mp3 player, a car or helicopter to the ancients, they would most likely calk it magic. But we know a great deal nore today. We have set theories on how the world works. Furthermore, we know that our theories have a high degree of accuracy. Had it not been the case, mass production, mining, medical science, IT (Well, every major industry on earth), would all fail. Why do I say that? If Ohm's Law was not accurate, NO ELECTRICAL APPLIANCE WOULD WORK. If geolgogists were wrong about the composition of the earth and the formation of minerals, THE MINING INDUSTRY WOULD FALL FLAT. I can give many examples. Thus, we know enough to claim the following. There are no natural forces that allow(s):
3.1) Reptiles to talk
3.2) Animals to be smited into snakes
3.3) Water to be turned into wine
3.4) Beams of fire to be shot from heaven
3.5) Chariots of fire picking up prophets
3.6) The dead coming alive
3.7) Donkeys talking
3.9) Plants surviving without the sun
3.10) Food falling from the heavens.
If you wish to continue to call the above 'natural phenomena ye to be discoveredby us', you are nist welcome, but you would be wrong (been there done that, eh, RR) and look stupid (once again, you have not made yourself look educated these past weeks).
Ok. It seems as though you're under the impression that we, mankind, has learned all there is to know.

Have you ever stopped to think about how utterly ignorant we are about our own world?

Have you ever thought of yourself in the year 1224 and saw anything from today's time and how that would all seem mystical, magical and defying the known laws of nature?

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Jul 31, 2013
 
Double Fine wrote:
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We do not condemn the innocent priests. They perform a service and they believe they are a benefit to mankind. They are misguided, but at least good people.
What I do condemn is the RCC. They know full and well that child rape is happening, and when it comes out, it is covered up. That is evil. Had Double Fine had his way, the bigwigs at the RCC should all be imprisoned for crimes against humanity.
Yes, you guys do condemn priests. All of them.

At least, that's the impression I get.

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