Prove there's a god.

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#646739 Jul 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Bible? A science book? Lol. The Bible is a religious, social, and historical chronicle of God's work in the lives of a specific group of people during a specific period of history.
Oh, and Christians are still burning people at the stake. Just FYI.
Indeed they are. I was talking about the "modern world."

Yes, I know this bible isn't a science book. Do you deny that people used to look to it for answers to scientific questions and consider it the final authority on such? Remember how upset everyone was over that whole issue of a heliocentric earth?

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#646740 Jul 29, 2013
heliocentric solar system*

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#646741 Jul 29, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So?
So it was a reply to the atheist Rev. is that sokay?

“True/False is a false duality.”

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#646742 Jul 29, 2013
UDIOTRACE MAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Xtainity use fire to burn evil and bloodletting is it ugliness, always at war with others... how is that good for man kind> They should study religions history see its ugliness.
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For the record, I hate Christianity.

In fact, I loathe all Abrahamic religions.

All 3 of them. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, need to die the death and never see the light of day again.

You would be hard pressed to find a MAJOR religion in ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY as foul as these three.

Just saying, so my stance can be made clear.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#646743 Jul 29, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Go back that verse was explained to you, did you not see it or are you still confused?
I saw that.

It was defined as just a prophecy, not the word of God.

Are you sure you want to go there?
UDIOTRACE MAKEWORLDPEACE

United States

#646744 Jul 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I asked what you propose.
Not what we should not have.
u one step ahead of me on this! Go for it ask him ... and see if it produce anything sensible to debate

Since: May 09

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#646745 Jul 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Close. I'm touched that you remember it...
Page 24748, post# 516174
I wrote:
"Prove there's NOT a God..... Go on, try... "
And here we are, 30,000 posts later and not one of you have met my challenge.
It isn't necessary to disprove something that has never been proven.

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#646746 Jul 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You must've missed the "under heaven" part...
Where is, "under heaven"?
UDIOTRACE MAKEWORLDPEACE

United States

#646747 Jul 29, 2013
Azak-Thazda wrote:
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I am not qualified to decide that, I am only one person.
"Do no harm" is what I would say, as vague as that sounds.
"Do no harm to others, but all things are lawful done unto one's self."
Now I suppose "harm" would have to be defined. And I would define harm as anything that causes pain or damage to people.
But that is so subjective. A christian claims to be harmed just by seeing atheist adverts in the city - yet, clearly, nobody should be protected from that kind of "harm".
I'll repeat myself: I am not qualified to decide what we should have. It has to be a joint venture by mankind as a whole, and not the whims of a select few.
My own religion "I" You have your own religion "I' and other have own religion 'I' The "I' has it winner is 'I" BWhhahhaaa

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#646748 Jul 29, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*sigh*
Attend: if you've never heard of the great, all-powerful Creator Zardoz, you don't believe in him.
If you've never heard of ANY deity, you don't believe in all of them.
Seriously, is this too complicated for you?
Zardoz:

https://www.google.com/search...
UDIOTRACE MAKEWORLDPEACE

United States

#646749 Jul 29, 2013
Azak-Thazda wrote:
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For the record, I hate Christianity.
In fact, I loathe all Abrahamic religions.
All 3 of them. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, need to die the death and never see the light of day again.
You would be hard pressed to find a MAJOR religion in ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY as foul as these three.
Just saying, so my stance can be made clear.
And those PAgan religions - human scarifce , Spirit invoking...

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#646750 Jul 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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NOW you tell me, after I'm back home.
Rats, I lost a great opportunity to be entrapped.
Many of those Shanghainese women are lovely!
They make their own herbal infused alcohol.

:p

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#646751 Jul 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't think people are "born" atheist any more than we are born gay, afraid of the dark or vegetarian.
It's all learned.
Oh my.

“True/False is a false duality.”

Since: Jul 13

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#646752 Jul 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I asked what you propose.
Not what we should not have.
"Harm is defined using sensate and materialistic experience. Any harm that is believed to be supernatural and untestable doesn't count."

"All things are lawful unto one's own self. It if helps you, it is healthy. If it harms you, it was your will to begin with and you rightfully bear the blame."

I dunno. Concerning religions, maybe something like

"No religion that has as part of it's teaching anything that contradicts the above shall enjoy protection or tax-free status"

Gotta be careful with that. Free will needs to be respected.

I also think general education needs to become PARAMOUNT. First it needs to be purged of bias, re-formatted to reflect the humility of the sciences and arts taught (stop teaching hole-ridden stories as LAWS OF NATURE, please. That's insane) and then given PARAMOUNT importance, so children grow up educated and are less likely to have, as part of their religion, something like "evolution isn't real" or "the earth is flat".

Non-sensical beliefs that would harm them.

That's all I got for now, I'm afraid.

All I know is if, like secular humanism, a select few decide what it is, at least one group of people will suffer alienation for their harmless views, rituals and beliefs.

One man is too shortsighted to answer this question. We all have to answer it - together.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#646753 Jul 29, 2013
Azak-Thazda wrote:
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I am not qualified to decide that, I am only one person.
"Do no harm" is what I would say, as vague as that sounds.
"Do no harm to others, but all things are lawful done unto one's self."
Now I suppose "harm" would have to be defined. And I would define harm as anything that causes pain or damage to people.
But that is so subjective. A christian claims to be harmed just by seeing atheist adverts in the city - yet, clearly, nobody should be protected from that kind of "harm".
I'll repeat myself: I am not qualified to decide what we should have. It has to be a joint venture by mankind as a whole, and not the whims of a select few.
I like it.

But it sure sounds like secular humanism and tolerance to me.

“True/False is a false duality.”

Since: Jul 13

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#646754 Jul 29, 2013
UDIOTRACE MAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>My own religion "I" You have your own religion "I' and other have own religion 'I' The "I' has it winner is 'I" BWhhahhaaa
I dunno how you got that from "I am not qualified to decide"

That was a self-deprecating statement. I was saying I can't be the one to decide for all of mankind the core ethical index that we all decide to reference in our daily lives and in our laws.

If anything, that was a sign of humility, not ego or pride...jesus christ, man.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#646755 Jul 29, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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They make their own herbal infused alcohol.
:p
I bought a small bottle of the stuff in Anhui province.

I took one taste, but couldn't even swallow it.

It tasted nastier than any medicine I have ever taken.

I offered it to a group of porters at the mountain, Huang Shen, who promptly smarfed it up.

The local beer was tasty and refreshing though, and so cheap!

I'll be back. Chengdu lake is my next destination. After that, Yunnan. Eventually, Tibet.

Did you know that the first dynasty began around 2850 B.C.E.?

“True/False is a false duality.”

Since: Jul 13

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#646756 Jul 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I like it.
But it sure sounds like secular humanism and tolerance to me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/secu...

Well. Secular humanism has seen some upheaval concerning my complaint about it, recently.
To think even influential leaders among secular humanists are becoming alarmed at their own rabid atheist followers gives me some hope for it. If you read it all, he doesn't want it to be antireligious nor avowedly atheist. I think that's a smart move. Humanism, real "Human"ism is more than that petty divide.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#646758 Jul 29, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Zardoz:
https://www.google.com/search...
Good gravy. I thought I was the only one to remember that!

A Connery bomb, with a floating stone head and a malfunctioning Webley-Fosbery.

“True/False is a false duality.”

Since: Jul 13

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#646759 Jul 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I bought a small bottle of the stuff in Anhui province.
I took one taste, but couldn't even swallow it.
It tasted nastier than any medicine I have ever taken.
I offered it to a group of porters at the mountain, Huang Shen, who promptly smarfed it up.
The local beer was tasty and refreshing though, and so cheap!
I'll be back. Chengdu lake is my next destination. After that, Yunnan. Eventually, Tibet.
Did you know that the first dynasty began around 2850 B.C.E.?
Good herbal alcohols are hard to come by, in my experience.

Have you ever had Becherovka? It's supposed to be medicinal but I found the flavor to be really exquisite.

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