Prove there's a god.

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Since: Mar 11

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#645490 Jul 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA HA HA !!!!
Okee, bucko.
He's right, it's true. Look at how young earth creationists try every means possible to deny biological science and undermine education. How certain Muslim nations fight against the freedoms and education of women.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

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#645491 Jul 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The better question is: why not?
:)
You might catch something nasty.

“Ditat Deus”

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#645492 Jul 27, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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most bibles say he "spoke the universe into existence"
he spoke and POOF - the universe appeared
no wand even
Ugh.

You're hopeless.

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#645493 Jul 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See, now that was a nice dodge.
Way to avoid every single comment....
Let's see if you avoid this one:

1 Chronicles 16:30, "Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved."

With out moving we would not have seasons, are you insisting RR that we do not have summer and winter?

Normal people know this is just stupid. But normal people also know you are more stupid for believing stupid. When you teach children things like this RR you are condemning them to a lifetime of asking, "May I super-size that for you?"

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#645495 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What? So what is your point? That we can't teach anything to anyone until we have gained omniscience? There's no way to know something with 100% certainty, but we can get pretty close, and there's nothing wrong with teaching these things to our kids.
My point is that since they were wrong about how many planets are in our solar system, what else are they wrong about?

Who knows.

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#645496 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Really? You make that analogy like every other week. You say something to the effect of "you can't prove you love someone, but love exists because we feel it, I can't prove god exists, but he exists because I feel him."
There ya go. If you're gonna quote me, at least get it right.

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#645497 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Your brain is a magical place.
You should see my.....

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#645498 Jul 27, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>It's clear you share murderous desires too if you approve of Topix scumbags making death threats and suicide suggestions to me when my comments are perfectly harmless and non-threatening.
Your are welcome to ignore me too, if you can, freak, but I doubt your obsessive/compulsive disorder will allow it. G'head, try it.
Your comments are NOT "perfectly harmless and non-threatening."

When you say the Bible is the word of God you are a direct threat to the life and security of all freedom loving people the world over.

Your God tells you you can beat slaves, deny women their rights and kill homosexuals [for starters] and you accept that as all roses roses.

JESUS: Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters yes, even his own life he cannot be my disciple."

You are a religion of hate. Tell us how much you hate your parents.

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#645499 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It doesn't matter what they would think. If the bible described as magic someone flicking a piece of metal and producing fire, we would recognize this as a lighter, and know that no natural laws were broken, and that it was a simple misunderstanding. When the bible describes clear violations of natural laws, we can't write it off as a misunderstanding. Additionally, the whole concept of a "god inspired misunderstanding" is nonsensical.
That's not even close to what I was saying.

Sure, we'd understand the whole metal-flicking-fire-producing analogy. Why? Because we understand the concept.

We don't understand "God said and it was". We don't know how that works.

Your brain is a magical place.

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#645500 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Stem cells are evil!
Science is almost constantly wrong? Yeah. We imagined all that stuff about transistors, gps systems, the mars rovers, etc. It is to be expected that mistakes will be made, but the entire point of the scientific method is that these mistakes are eventually weeded out. Should we refuse to teach anything until we have gained omniscience and we know that every piece of knowledge we have is irrefutable truth?
No.

Unless it's an irrefutable truth, it should not be in any science book presented as an irrefutable truth.

Capiche?

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#645501 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>There you go, playing definition games again. The commonly understood definition of preach is not simply "to teach," it carries a certain connotation - to preach is to to belabor a (almost always religious) point incessantly."
Notice how dishonest you are, even when quoting a post from me that directly contradicts your own. My definition was "publicly proclaim or preach (a religious sermon or message)." You left the last part out.
I know the general use of the word, which is why I can use it to piss you off.

Lol

Go [[preach]] your [[belief]] of atheism to someone.

(like swatting a bee's nest......)

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#645502 Jul 27, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
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Numerous studies have confirmed the common sense observation that religious brainwashing retards intellectual development as is demonstrated on a daily basis in this forum.
The cognitive functioning of completely brainwashed religious cultists, such as Riverside Redneck, Retardo Fire, Dave Nelson, Forum, psalms 23, nanoanomaly and waaasssuuup, are so significantly impaired that these mindless godbots are clearly mentally retarded.
And if you explain something to them on Monday, they pretend it was not answered and ask again on Thursday. I just ignore their insanity and retardation and post another problem. The more they refuse to deal with biblical problems the worse they look and the better I look.

I am convinced that presenting the Bible's endless number of problems is the key to getting them to give up the idea that they have a God who writes books.

Mark 16:17-18 says: "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;.... They shall take up serpents and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them."

Not many believing Christians are willing to drink poisons or handle rattlesnakes to prove the Bible's accuracy, although some have tried. Many individuals have died because they put their trust in the Biblical injunction to pray ("And the prayer of faith shall save the sick," James 5:13-15).

We can say they are retarded but we can also prove it as well. I say, let's go with the proof.

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#645503 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Translation: I have all these tabs full of helpful john 6:53 apologism open in my browser, and it'll be a few minutes before I can locate the relevant isaiah, corinthians, and peter apologism.
You're translation sucks.

With Alan, you could try discussing chocolate, then one post later he tries to change it to axles and oil.

Then you ask him to hold off on the axles and oil, finish the convo about chocolate and he'll fire back with something about poplar vs oak.

He never stays on topic because he doesn't want to give anyone a chance to show that he's wrong.

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#645504 Jul 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Science is a tool for knowledge acquisition. The scientists who make the bombs can be blamed, but not science itself.(note, they can only be blamed to a certain extent. we can't forget that we are all born into a society that romanticizes war, that has institutionalized and sanitized the process of weapon making and war, etc). Also, men would be dying on the battlefield whether we were fighting with rocks or star trek phasers. Humans fight. Always have. Blaming science for war is like blaming recording technology for the deluge of reality TV.
Well then you should talk to Hukt about it.

I agree that you can't blame science for war.(Which is why I didn't say that.....)

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#645505 Jul 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Good post, I wonder why atheist are so angry?
I'll be happy to explain it to you after you explain to us why pew warmers are so willfully ignorant.

Any book claiming a woman turned into a pillar of salt (Gen. 19:26), the sun went backward 10 degrees on the sundial (2 Kings 20:11), and quails came from the sea (Num. 11:31) is going to have great difficulty demonstrating its scientific precision to any reasonably scientific minds.

Since: Sep 08

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#645508 Jul 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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My point is that since they were wrong about how many planets are in our solar system, what else are they wrong about?
Who knows.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/14/tych...

Planets shmanets.

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#645509 Jul 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Rev McKinsey is dead, so you are continuing his mission....This is life after death in your mind. Why did McKinsey lie so much disputing the Bible? McKinsey knows nothing about the original languages of the Bible, and so in many places makes rather outraegous statements as a result. For example, he uses the Galatians 6 "burden contradiction."
Strangely, on this topic, McKinsey calls for ideological support from the "KJV-only" camp, which produces such statements as, "You need Greek grammar like a baby kangaroo needs a cradle." Well, yes: If one wishes to remain drinking milk and ignoring solid food, the analogy is appropriate. But if you wish to be an advanced student of the Bible, it is a good idea to learn something about Hebrew and/or Greek, just as a student of Wagner had better learn something about German.
In the 6th issue of the BE newsletter, McKinsey quotes Robert Ingersoll -- who was also not an ancient languages specialist -- for support: "It has been contended for many years that no one could pass judgement on the veracity of scripture who did not understand Hebrew. This position was perfectly absurd. No man needs to be a student of Hebrew to know the shadow on the dial did not go back several degrees..."
Ingersoll here commits the classic fallacy of apples and oranges: That particular instance is not one where language is at issue, but both he an McKinsey have raised objections where language was at issue.
I believe McKinsey's true attitude towards this subject is revealed when he says, "Disputes in these matters are never-ending and often boring."
You are attacking what Dennis wrote because you do not like his message which is; the Bible can not be trusted because it is unreliable.

All that you copied and pasted in here was written by an apologist [which is a paid professional liar for the Bible].

Clearly you, and the apologist you copied and pasted from, can answer any of the problems Dennis has brought to our attention, instead your whole post is an attempt to get people to reject Dennis as a person and therefore what he has written.

Normal people see through your smoke and mirrors and all that is left is to post another biblical problem:

In Mark 10:19 Jesus said: "Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, do not steal, do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother." Jesus needs to re-read the Ten Commandments. There is no Old Testament commandment against defrauding. The only relevant statement about defrauding is in Lev. 19:13, which says: "Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor." This is an OT law, but is not listed with the Ten Commandments.

Tell me, who is the bigger idiot, you or Jesus?

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#645510 Jul 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text> Why did McKinsey lie so much disputing the Bible?
Post a lie that Dennis told.

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#645511 Jul 27, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
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I've repeatedly explained the undeniable truth that the personal delusions of religiously brainwashed mentally retarded imbecilic sociopathic evolution and death denying cowardly fundieseased Christian redneck godbots like you are proof of mental illness not the monstrous deity of the damn bible.
You're totally humiliating yourself and embarrassing your country in an international forum. You should be institutionalized immediately for professional treatment of your personal delusions, punk.
You have a way with words! LOL! It is understandable that our resident pew warmers would ignore what Biblegod tells us about himself in the Bible; none of it is good, all of it is bad.

God, the Perfect Being, did all of following in what is supposedly His book. He created evil (Lam. 3:38, Jer. 26:3, 36:3, Ezek. 20.:25-26, Judges 9:3, 1 Sam. 16:23, 18:10); He deceived (Jer. 4:10, 15:18, 20:7, 2 Chron. 18:22, Ezek. 14:9, 2 Thess. 2:9-12); He told people to lie(Ex. 3:18, 1 Sam. 16:2); He lied (Gen 2:17, 2 Sam. 7:13); He rewarded liars (Ex. 1:15-20); He ordered men to become drunken (Jer. 25:27); He rewarded the fool and the transgressor (Prov.26:10); He delivered a man, Job, into Satan's hands (Job 2:6); He mingled a perverse spirit (Isa. 19:14); He spread dung on people's faces (Mal. 2:3)); He ordered stealing (Ezek. 39:10, Ex. 3:22); He made false prophecies (Jonah 3:4. Gen. 5:10); He Changed his mind (Jonah 3:10); He caused adultery (2 Sam. 12:11-12); He ordered the taking of a harlot (Hosea 1:2, 3:1-2); He killed (Num. 16:35, 21:6, Deut. 32:39, 1 Sam. 2:26, Psalm 135:10); He ordered killing (Lev. 26:7-8, Num. 25:4-5); He had a temper (Deut. 13:17, Judges 3:8); He was often jealous (Deut. 5:9, 6:15); He wasn't omnipresent (Gen4:16, 11:5, 1 Kings 19:11-12); He wasn't omniscient (Deut. 8:2, 13:3, 2 Chron. 32:31); He often repented (Ex. 32:14, 1 Sam. 15:35); He practiced injustice (Ex. 4:22-23, Joshua 22:20, Rom. 5:12); He played favorites (Deut. 7:6, 14:2, 1 Sam. 12:22); He sanctioned slavery (Ex. 21:20-21, Deut. 15:17); He degraded deformed people (Lev. 21:16-23); He punished a baster for being illegitimate (Deut. 23:2); He punished many for the acts of one (Gen. 3:16, 20:18); He punished children for the sins of their fathers (Ex. 12:29, 20:5, Deut. 5:9); He prevented people from hearing his word (Isa. 6:10, John 12:39-40); He supported human sacrifice (Ex. 22:29-30, Ezek. 20:26); He ordered cannabalism (Lev. 26: 29, Jer. 19:9); He demanded virgins as a part of war plunder(Num. 31:31-36); He ordered gambling (Joshua 14. 2, Num. 26:52, 55-56); He ordered horses to be hamstrung (Joshua 11:6); He sanctioned violation of the enimies women (Deut. 21:10-14); He excused the beating of slaves to death (Ex. 21:20-21); He required a woman to marry her rapist (Deut. 22:28:29); He taught war (Psalm 144:1); He ordered the burning of human feces to cook food (Ezek. 21:3-5); He intentionally issued bad laws (Ezek. 20:25); He excused the sins of prostitutes and adulerers (Hosea 4:14); He excused a murderer and promised his protection (Gen. 4:8-15); He killed a man who refused to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law (Gen. 38:9-10); and He is indecisive (Gen. 18:17).
xianity is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#645512 Jul 27, 2013
jane2013 wrote:
I have been through a lot and until now I'm still here hanging tough. I have encountered so big problems, in which I don't think I will be able to subdue but because there is God, everything became possible. For people who's still searching for answers to their questions, do not give up. I'm sure that you will find the answers in time and these answers are for for the betterment of you.
too late,I have all the answers already..lol

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