Prove there's a god.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645108 Jul 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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All these guys thought they had it right...
1676 Olaus Roemer
1726 James Bradley
1849 Armand Fizeau
1862 Leon Foucault
1879 Albert Michelson
1907 Rosa, Dorsay
1926 Albert Michelson
1947 Essen, Gorden-Smith
1958 K. D. Froome
1973 Evanson et al
...
1983 Adopted Value 299,792.458
So we just all now "know" we've got it right this time, yes?
Because, of course, all those other guys "knew" that had it right, too.
No, we do not, and no, neither did they think they had 'it'.

Newton brougt out his theory of gravity. Many years later, Einstein was able to improve on it with his theory of Relativity.

A theory is an explanation of facts. Each generation, as technology improve, we obtain more bits of data, which are more accurate. This allows us to improve, ammend or change set theory. Newton's Law of Gravity is still being used, even by NASA for near earth applications, because it is simpler and easier to apply.

It's like cars. We can make smaller engines give more horsepower. Modern mass production cars are faster than sports cars twenty years ago. That does not mean the classic cars like the Jaguar E-Type, the Ferrari F40 and the Aston Martin DB5 are crap.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645109 Jul 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
But, but, but..... In 1650, they thought they had a "real world application and by more accurate means of measuring it"......
Your arguments are pathetic.

You have long crossed the barrier between ignorance and arrogance

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645110 Jul 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, WTF? You told me that I need to learn how to read science better...
When I tell an atheist that, they call it Christian apologetics.
It's a two way street, shuggatits.
No, it is not. Because science is not dogma. It is subject to scrutiny and investigation. Religion is not. It is dogma from the start and does not allow for critical thinking

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645111 Jul 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
For better accuracy.
Science is constantly re-interpreted with each new generation.
Pathetic, RR

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#645112 Jul 26, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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I didn challenge it. I told you science does not learn, as you have claimed. Science is a field, or a category of many fields of study.
Pfft.

I'll acknowledge that I may have generalized "science", much as one might generalize "education" or "religion" or "knowledge".

I'll change the syntax if you'd like, but the point remains - the field of scientific knowledge is self-correcting and continually improving.

That of "Biblical knowledge" does not - or are you still slaughtering pigeons to cure disease?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#645113 Jul 26, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Pathetic, RR
Bloody Norah. It's past 11AM where you are. What the heck am I doing up at 5-ish in the morning???

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645114 Jul 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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I capitalized Bible and God because it is correct English. English is my second language and I do make efforts to type it correctly. I wish more of you English First Pew Warmers would do the same. I have no respect for you "simple minded" who refuse to acknowledge real biblical problems. And I have no respect for your murdering Biblegod.
Please explain what is POE.
Second language? What's your first language? I am also an English seccie langie

Methinks they misused the word "poe", or interpreted in a way other than the norm.

Google "Poe's Law" - Poe said that you cannot distinguish between a religious fundementalist and a person pretending to be a fundemantalist.

I.e. If I pretended to be a Ph.D level Anthropologist, people like HFY would easily tear my argiments to pieces and conclude I am a fake. If I tried to say I am a Quantum Physics expert, Polymath and Aura Mytha would tear me to pieces. It is because they would see my knowledge is not up to standard.
That is how we know Dave Nelson is a cook. He proclaims himself some kind of genius, but really does not know any equations, their applications, etc.

However, to be a religious fundemantalist, one needs no skills, insight or education. Thus if I go on a Christian rant, tell people they are going to hell, and advocate 6,000 year old earth, you would not be able to tell if I am seriois or just kidding.

So what is a poe? It is usually an internet troll, who creates a new profile and comes on here, insulting everybody, telling us how we will burn in hell, etc

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645115 Jul 26, 2013
Double Fine is skipping the last ten oages or so. If it contained anything else than the odd idiot popping in and proclaiming evolution a lie, or RR telling us how bats are birds and snakes are not snakes, then all is well.

If anyone sent Double Fine something, please resend

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645116 Jul 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Bloody Norah. It's past 11AM where you are. What the heck am I doing up at 5-ish in the morning???
Yep, past 11 at the time you wrote this.

Double Fie has two more hours of work, then he is off for the weekend!

Getting hair cut. Working on that Tina Turner wig

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#645117 Jul 26, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Second language? What's your first language? I am also an English seccie langie
Methinks they misused the word "poe", or interpreted in a way other than the norm.
Google "Poe's Law" - Poe said that you cannot distinguish between a religious fundementalist and a person pretending to be a fundemantalist.
I.e. If I pretended to be a Ph.D level Anthropologist, people like HFY would easily tear my argiments to pieces and conclude I am a fake. If I tried to say I am a Quantum Physics expert, Polymath and Aura Mytha would tear me to pieces. It is because they would see my knowledge is not up to standard.
That is how we know Dave Nelson is a cook. He proclaims himself some kind of genius, but really does not know any equations, their applications, etc.
However, to be a religious fundemantalist, one needs no skills, insight or education. Thus if I go on a Christian rant, tell people they are going to hell, and advocate 6,000 year old earth, you would not be able to tell if I am seriois or just kidding.
So what is a poe? It is usually an internet troll, who creates a new profile and comes on here, insulting everybody, telling us how we will burn in hell, etc
English is my second also. I grew up in Irish Gaelic, which may be even rarer than Afrikaans.

Laffin.

And Dave is, at best, a hack. He read an article or saw a TV show about magnets once.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#645118 Jul 26, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Yep, past 11 at the time you wrote this.
Double Fie has two more hours of work, then he is off for the weekend!
Getting hair cut. Working on that Tina Turner wig
I cut my own dratted hair. Four times a year, take the buzzer to it.

Only sensible course in this climate.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645120 Jul 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>English is my second also. I grew up in Irish Gaelic, which may be even rarer than Afrikaans.
Laffin.
And Dave is, at best, a hack. He read an article or saw a TV show about magnets once.
Gaelic is rare. Afrikaans have maybe 2-3 million first language speakers. The amount of people that understand it, maybe double or triple that. Of course, you know "bantu" education during Apartheid years, well, they forced everybody to take Afrikaans as either second or third language. This has filtered through to other generations - I am sure that True Truth most likely does not even see an Afrikaans person during his working day, yet I would bet my new set of wheels that he is able to keep a decent conversation in it - say hi, goodbye, ask directions or for a product from a grocer.

Also, it is a good language to swear in

Since: May 11

Hersham, UK

#645121 Jul 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>English is my second also. I grew up in Irish Gaelic, which may be even rarer than Afrikaans.
Laffin.
And Dave is, at best, a hack. He read an article or saw a TV show about magnets once.
My first SNCO was from the outer isles and spoke The Gaelic, never even heard English until he was 9. He was difficult to understand, the words all merged.

Once you get up to Kingussie or Aviemore the signs go bilingual, although I have to say more Welsh is spoken in Wales than Gaelic in Scotland.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645122 Jul 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I cut my own dratted hair. Four times a year, take the buzzer to it.
Only sensible course in this climate.
Double Fine goes wet look, kind of like putting one's finger in a socket. Then, when the hair gets too long, Double Fine goes for the Brad Pitt look - and pulls it off

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#645123 Jul 26, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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My first SNCO was from the outer isles and spoke The Gaelic, never even heard English until he was 9. He was difficult to understand, the words all merged.
Once you get up to Kingussie or Aviemore the signs go bilingual, although I have to say more Welsh is spoken in Wales than Gaelic in Scotland.
You know, I am an avid United supporter. I have not once seen an interview in which I understood all of Fergie's words. I wonder how the players understood him?

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#645124 Jul 26, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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That is just harnessing and optimizing teamwork, and using machines to aid. Ultimately there is no life given to science. It is people and their invented machines doing the work.
Of course it is not alive, but it is like a collection of minds. Since it is like collective, it also does have a life of it's own.
There is a difference between team work and a collective effort.
The collective allows you to form a team easily.

Here is another that calls itself artificial life, so I beg to differ in opinion whether it gives a life to science or not.(Of course it still isn't breathing itself) But through the collective it has a life of it's own.
I think of it like this, Percival, Gawain, Lancelot
were individuals, but together represented the round table.
The round table in this way takes a life of it's own by being a collective effort.

http://people.reed.edu/~mab/publications/pape...

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#645129 Jul 26, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Great job copy and pasting from Dennis McKinsey's Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy..
Oh, I guess that means the following is not a contradiction:

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is ofGod, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Versus

Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."

I know you would like me to stop posting biblical errors, contradictions and fallacies, and I probably would if you would grow up and act like an adult and stop pretending you know what this imaginary God of your wants of humanity.

Not that this is important, but I have my own online copies of Biblical Errancy and I promised Dennis before his death that I would continue to expose the biggest hoax ever sold: the Bible.

All the Atheists seem to think I am doing a great job exposing your lies, deceptions and dishonesty. I know your fellow pew warmers don't like it and like you grasp for any straw to try to discredit me. You make up all kinds of things that only prove you can deal with the real problems which are the contradictions and other errors found on every single page of the Bible.

You have nothing else going for you except pretending you know something the rest of us don't know. And with each and every post I prove that what you know is wrong and divorced from reality.

I understand you are upset and I will make this promise to you; when you and the other pew warmers stop lying I'll stop posting the truth.

PS. Thanks for plugging the Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy, I highly recommend it to everyone who wants to know about the errors in the Bible. It is an excellent resource for fighting your stupidity and ignorance.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#645130 Jul 26, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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No, it is not. Because science is not dogma. It is subject to scrutiny and investigation. Religion is not. It is dogma from the start and does not allow for critical thinking
If that was true you wouldn't have so many sects and individual beliefs.

You have more freedom of thought in the religious arena than academic science.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#645131 Jul 26, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>LOL...sorry but you act like you are some kind of Bible expert then you ask the most simple stupefied questions.
I must be doing a very good job for you to get so mean so quickly, usually it takes over two weeks for a pew warmers to become as revengeful, hateful and obsessed with attacking me as you have become.

Thanks, I'll continue to post more Biblical Errancy and prove you are a con-artist wishing to deceive gullible people.

Num. 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent."
1 Sam. 15:29 "And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent."

Versus

Jonah 3:10 "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not."
1 Sam.15:11 "It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king...."
Exod. 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Psalms.42:10 "... for I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you."
Gen. 6:6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."
1 Sam. 15:35 "...and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel."

The Biblegod who doesn't repent repented. All you Christians have is smoke and mirrors to deceive people into believing you know something the rest of us do not. Thank you for providing me the opportunity to expose your dog and pony show for the con that it is.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#645132 Jul 26, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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First of all, even if the phrase “Son of Man” is a reference to Jesus' humanity, it is not a denial of His deity. By becoming a man, Jesus did not cease being God.[the rest of the blah blah blah snipped]
How could Jesus, whom the New Testament repeatedly refers to as the
son of man, be our savior when this is clearly forestalled by Psalm
146:3 ("Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man in whom
there is no help") and Job 25:6 ("How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm")?

What isn't clear about not putting your trust in the son of man who is Jesus because there is no help? Clearly the Bible teaches us that the son of man, Jesus, is a worm.

Now you can dance around that all you want, but normal people can read it and decide for themselves if I have quoted the verses accurately and if your dog and pony show explanation flies.

Why is God so stupid that he can't be clear so that we do not need you to tell us what God really meant? If your God is that stupid how can we trust him about the afterlife?

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