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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are a pushbutton liberal. They push a button and you squawk on cue. It is interesting how you people demonize in chorus.
My high school was 85% black. I lived 2 blocks from MLK Park in Miami for years before and many more after it became that. I taught a few neighborhood kids to shoot. They were black. My son flew cross country to the retirement from the Navy of one of them recently. I've been in the middle of the most violent places in the county in the middle of the night many, many times. I lived for 5 years in New Orleans, and not in a privileged section of it. I walked through it. No car.
Now, what is your experience with people from the hood? Other than reading liberal rags?
Really? We're swapping "hood stories" now? Seriously?

First of all, not all black people are "people from the hood." Second of all, being around black people does not make you less racist. Third, I have associated with many black people, and I do not relegate them to the category of "hood people" in my mind like you do.

I'm not demonizing you. I am simply willing to bet that if the races were swapped - a mixed race white being murdered by a black guy - you would be singing a different tune. Imagine this - a black guy sees a "suspicious individual," follows him around after being told not to, exits his vehicle with a gun to confront said individual, and then ends up killing him. He claims self defense based on a few scratches - the result of a "savage beating:" 20-25 punches to the face and over ten concrete/head bashes. His injuries are not even slightly consistent with his claims.

It would be laughed out of court.

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Are you sure you're not retarded- just a little bit?
I suspect that people develope deep-seeded negative views toward God based on how they have been treated.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>641542 is the most recent.
Okay...I went back and responded to this one and in it you said you'd post another for me to respond to...but your next two posts were:

641980=
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<quoted text>I give up
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<quoted text>On getting you to acknowledge the response I posted 3 times.
I may still be overlooking...I mean I did overlook 641542..,but there are a lot of posts to go through...so if I'm missing another...you'll have to let me know the numbers on it too. If #641542 is your response to this last post of mine:

timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You could not boil down the issue to "you must disagree with me because of x or y, there is no other possibility." The assertion that the only reason someone might disagree with you on the drug war is either unemployment or an "enjoyment of footing the bill," is nonsensical.
What's the other possibility?
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Furthermore, one does not need to "enjoy footing the bill for irresponsible people" to accept the fact that a part of living in a civilized society is the responsibility to care for those less fortunate than us.
We aren't talking about the less fortunate...we're talking about drub abusers...They aren't exactly synonymous.
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Do you really think that the only people who advocate for increased social programs are unemployed/disenfranchised, or that they have a society wide codependent relationship with every addict in the country? That's just ignorant, pure and simple.
. Well....since I never made any such statement or even implied such...the answer would be NO. Please stay focused on the conversation at hand. We weren't discussing ALL social programs. There are a vast number of social programs that I advocate...just not those that pertain to DRUG ABUSERS.
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And yes, you were being dishonest. You attempted to insult me, and then placed the blame on me for interpreting it as an insult.
Again, I'm sorry you were insulted...but No, that wasn't my intent...if neither option pertains to you..then please..explain yourself. And try not to use ALL social programs in your defense...again, our conversation is not regarding social programs to help...the less fortunate...but the drug abusers.
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<quoted text>Here's one: you're a christian - that means you're either stupid or willfully ignorant. No other possibilities.
False dichotomies are pretty stupid, right?/QUOTE]
Here's one for you...If calling me stupid and ignorant makes you more intelligent...then by all means..carry on..you'll have to be the judge of whether or not it worked.
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For everything else, including proof that "footing the bill" for addicts is cheaper and more beneficial than the revolving door prison system we currently have, please refer to my earlier post that I just re posted for you. I am eagerly awaiting to see how you respond in the face of a clear, factual refutation of your backwards, cruel position.
I already provided a link or two which clearly shows footing the bill for drug abusers is not cheaper. The revolving door for the relapsed abusers who return to rehab centers or the ER is a directly related drug abuse cost whether you like it or not. And the last time I checked...the cost of police enforcement and ambulance services is also directly related. I don't see everyday citizens dragging those alcoholic drivers out from behind the wheel after they crashed into an innocent family and killed two children very often...do you?

Then....perhaps you should give up

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First off, correct, I can believe anything I choose, just like you. The only difference with this, I don't believe that men can define an infallible entity and you do.
Do you believe in an infallible entity? I agree, men can only muster up what there own perception of God is, but for a human to fully comprehend and understand the power and nature of God, is futile. Our minds cant even begin to phathom the power/energy and force of the almighty!! Those who penned down the Words of the "original text" of the OT and NT, can only descibe what they have seen and what was revealed to them by God.
I also don't assume anything from so-called "Christians", because many times youor ilk don't even know what they are talking about
And what makes you any different? Just because you are an Atheist, some how gives you the authority to claim you know what you are talking about, and what you say is truth??? That the "knowledge you now claim to have was not giving by "some other" fallible human??? Please, spare me the BS.
, and when they try to convey thoughts upon the subject matter being discussed, they'll do what you have - give reasons on why they don't have to prove something, all the while knowing deep inside themselves, that they are being dishonest.
Although many so-called "Christians" have solidified that they believe the whole Bible, one important aspect of this is that they can't prove certain aspects of their religion, thus continue to believe them to be true, based only upon what men have given them to believe. Are you going to deny this truth as well?
As for the last verses of Mark 16:9-20 goes, yes from what i have read and researched, they say it was not done by the hand of Mark, the origanl writer. Now can i honestly explain to you why that is? No. Nonetheless, ther latter part of it reflects the inspired teaching of Jesus, and for "me" that's sufficent along with what God has done for me!
These facts about you and your beliefs are true, but you will find a way to avoid these truths and facts, because it goes against what you have been taught to believe.
Yes, for example - you and your half-belief in what Jesus taught, your belief in less than half of the original 13 Apostles, the total disregard of many "laws" within the Bible, and placing "Paul" as more of an authoritive on "God" than Jesus.
- basically, in your life, "what doesn't apply to you, doesn't apply to you", and all the while, disregarding these facts about those particular beliefs as the "truth".
Your dishonesty is beginning to show itself.
You dont know me, and have "no facts" about me, you assume much..

I believe what the Spirit of God reveals to me to be true, and to not lean on to my own understanding, and those of the opposite. Especially, one who doesnt even believe in God.

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Covert Stealth Op wrote:
<quoted text>Usually when a person chimes 'I give up', it is a sign that their attempts to control have failed and they are frustrated.
Timn...frustrated? nah...couldn't be.

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I really love how you add "paramilitary swat teams that run raids against nonviolent individuals" as if it makes a difference if the person is violent or not. If someone is selling drugs, violent or not, they should have a swat team go in and take them down. i mean seriously now you want the government to spend millions to rehabilitate the users but you think they should leave the dealers out on the streets just because they aren't violent? See we're different Timn...you seem to lack foresight...I mean if we leave the non-violent dealer on the street do you think he/she is gonna say..."oh don't try to sell to that guy...he just got out of rehab." Let me answer that for you...That ain't happening! The dealer is going straight to that person or sending a flunky to do it...they know just a little enticement and they're getting another paycheck. Then...all that money you advocate spending on rehab goes right back down the drain. Foresight...it's imperative when attacking an issue as widespread and out of control as drug abuse.
As for your smart remark about the drunk driver....You can call me stupid and ignorant all day long...as you did in another post...but who in God's name do you think you're fooling by stating..."Drunk driving is criminal. Drug use is a vice" as if drug addicts never commit crimes that affect innocent people negatively...or like drug abusers never get behind the wheel and end up killing innocent people. If that ain't the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black...I don't know what is. Anyway, since you're being petty...I'll clarify that...replace drunk with substance abuse (non-alcoholic related)... However, if you go back and review the whole conversation...you'll find where I also mention my distaste on how alcoholism and drug abuse is now considered a "disease" and these people are receiving federal disability or state funded Medicaid, which pays for their care. I have a real problem with that. I'll find your next post and respond accordingly.:)
You ignored the relevant post, for the fourth time. This can't be an accident. I'm going to post it one more time.

A few points (but please, please do not ignore my repost *again*).

- No, drug enforcement should not be included in "drug costs." Drug enforcement is not a natural consequence of drug abuse. Drug enforcement is a result of the state enforcing morality and punishing vice.

- Why should a swat team be used against a nonviolent individual? A criminal can be apprehended without the use of a swat team - explain to me why it's necessary to use military force against the citizenry.

-Rehab money does not go "down the drain." If you would stop ignoring the post I have directed you towards over and over and over, you would have known by now that rehab has been found to offset the cost of drug abuse to society by a 1 to 3 ratio in terms of dollars spent.

-Foresight. Yes, it is imperative, in that we realize that we have been escalating this war for 30 years with no results, and that our only hope is to try a different tactic.

-I did not call you stupid or ignorant outright, I made a false dichotomy of those two terms to illustrate to you how stupid false dichotomies are. I guess that went over your head.

- Yes.. driving while under the influence of a substance is a crime. Obviously. You are conflating the substance with the acts committed in pursuit of the substance or while under the influence of it. These are what's called "costs to society," and they are offset by rehab, which you would know if you would have read my earlier post. It's unfortunate that some people do stupid things, but that is no reason to continue with a policy of prohibition that has never once worked in the history of civilization.

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Myth Buster wrote:
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You really should study evolution and attempt to learn instead of making a complete ass of yourself on an international forum with your willful ignorance of science, kid.
You should really stop posting to me, because you are reavling your willingly ignorant hypocisy for all to see!!

Remember? You are suppose to shunn me and others like me...
Live what ya preach, mouth blister...

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Really? We're swapping "hood stories" now? Seriously?
First of all, not all black people are "people from the hood." Second of all, being around black people does not make you less racist. Third, I have associated with many black people, and I do not relegate them to the category of "hood people" in my mind like you do.
I'm not demonizing you. I am simply willing to bet that if the races were swapped - a mixed race white being murdered by a black guy - you would be singing a different tune. Imagine this - a black guy sees a "suspicious individual," follows him around after being told not to, exits his vehicle with a gun to confront said individual, and then ends up killing him. He claims self defense based on a few scratches - the result of a "savage beating:" 20-25 punches to the face and over ten concrete/head bashes. His injuries are not even slightly consistent with his claims.
It would be laughed out of court.
No I wouldn't. Zimmerman had the injuries. He didn't draw first blood.

The law is you try to avoid confrontations before using deadly force to end them. The law required Martin to try and get away. Stand your ground only comes into play after an attack. He attacked for a purely emotional reason. He would not have attacked with a gun pointed at him. Zimmerman would not have wound up on the ground if he had a mind to physically assault a "child".

You are feeding racism. Do you make money from it like Catcher does?

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Note - the above argument is mostly based on cost. We haven't even gotten into the morality of locking people up for committing a vice and falling victim to a disease.

Strange that most modern countries are moving away from prohibition, eh?

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> We are not talking about Zimmerman except in comparison., AND
There isn't any.
Ok. I was just saying that he definitely was not getting his brains beaten in.

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I don't know what Texas is going to do to reclaim the title of The Worst State, but you know it's coming.
Definitely. It'll most likely be in the form of a very tenuous execution of a possibly innocent man. That's their specialty.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Ok. I was just saying that he definitely was not getting his brains beaten in.

You know this because you were there?
Or you think this because you have an opinion based on media coverage? Were you an eye witness?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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And some of your best clients.
I've seen them as people. And lived with them.
You have seen them as dollar signs financing your gated community living.
Open your gates. Let them come visit.
Write a book about your experiences with them. So few have returned to tell the tale, you must share your knowledge. Here:

Working title: "The mystical negro: a story of electro-blackness."

Publisher's blurb: "Dave returns from his soujurn into the dark and musty world of the much maligned 'negro creature,' the so called hood, with fantastic stories that at once illuminate their striking humanity and their unrestrained animal nature."

Choice excerpts:

"Yeah, my best friend is definitely black."

"You like my shoes? Huh?"

"No, negro, you must swallow the magnet first! Savages!"

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Write a book about your experiences with them. So few have returned to tell the tale, you must share your knowledge. Here:
Working title: "The mystical negro: a story of electro-blackness."
Publisher's blurb: "Dave returns from his soujurn into the dark and musty world of the much maligned 'negro creature,' the so called hood, with fantastic stories that at once illuminate their striking humanity and their unrestrained animal nature."
Choice excerpts:
"Yeah, my best friend is definitely black."
"You like my shoes? Huh?"
"No, negro, you must swallow the magnet first! Savages!"
You are so bogus.

Bwana Timmy and Bwana Catcher protecting the poor innocent natives from the evil poachers and slave traders. You will enlighten them on the dangers they face from those evil men, and how evil they are.

Of course it will cost money.

Hey, slick, why don't you go the the nearest hood and talk to the first group of guys you see standing around. Show your solidarity with them.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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No I wouldn't. Zimmerman had the injuries. He didn't draw first blood.
The law is you try to avoid confrontations before using deadly force to end them. The law required Martin to try and get away. Stand your ground only comes into play after an attack. He attacked for a purely emotional reason. He would not have attacked with a gun pointed at him. Zimmerman would not have wound up on the ground if he had a mind to physically assault a "child".
You are feeding racism. Do you make money from it like Catcher does?
He had scratches. You have no idea if martin "drew first blood." Even if he did, he did little damage.

Are you serious? The law requires martin to run from his stalker? So I'm free to stalk anyone I want and if they confront me I can kill them?

Martin shot and killed a child, but no, he would never assault one. What? Based on his injuries, there was zero need for deadly force. You are deluding yourself if you think he was truly in any danger. He wanted to play hero.

Assuming there really was a true fight, here are several things he could have done:

fought back

turtled for 60 seconds until neighbors intervened

restrained martin as he was much larger

pulled the gun to warn, not to kill

But no, he wanted to play supercop. He chased down a kid, got out of his car to confront him, and shot him to death because he was punched in the face first (and that is a very, very generous assumption).

How surprising, that someone might react in a confrontational manner after being stalked through a neighborhood in the middle of the night. Not saying martin did, but come on now.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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You know this because you were there?
Or you think this because you have an opinion based on media coverage? Were you an eye witness?
I've looked at the pictures and read the reports, which is the best anyone can do. Were you there? Then why are you asking me if I was? We are both looking at the same pictures and the same reports, and they support my assertion, not yours.

25-30 punches does *way* more damage than zimmerman had that night.

10 bashes into the concrete does way more damage than zimmerman had.

The EMS report mentioned a swollen nose with normal mucous membranes, not a broken one.

Martin's hands would have been destroyed.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are so bogus.
Bwana Timmy and Bwana Catcher protecting the poor innocent natives from the evil poachers and slave traders. You will enlighten them on the dangers they face from those evil men, and how evil they are.
Of course it will cost money.
Hey, slick, why don't you go the the nearest hood and talk to the first group of guys you see standing around. Show your solidarity with them.
What are you talking about? What does "going to the hood" have to do with anything?

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>He had scratches. You have no idea if martin "drew first blood." Even if he did, he did little damage.
Are you serious? The law requires martin to run from his stalker? So I'm free to stalk anyone I want and if they confront me I can kill them?
Martin shot and killed a child, but no, he would never assault one. What? Based on his injuries, there was zero need for deadly force. You are deluding yourself if you think he was truly in any danger. He wanted to play hero.
Assuming there really was a true fight, here are several things he could have done:
fought back
turtled for 60 seconds until neighbors intervened
restrained martin as he was much larger
pulled the gun to warn, not to kill
But no, he wanted to play supercop. He chased down a kid, got out of his car to confront him, and shot him to death because he was punched in the face first (and that is a very, very generous assumption).
How surprising, that someone might react in a confrontational manner after being stalked through a neighborhood in the middle of the night. Not saying martin did, but come on now.
Get a real life. You are running out of time.
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timn17 wrote:
follows him around after being told not to
The media coverage surrounding this case was disgraceful. Zimmerman was advised to stop following Martin and the tape indicates he followed the advice of the dispatcher. Martin reengaged Zimmerman and the evidence indicates he started the physical confrontation which tragically led to his death.

There were several factors that the media failed to cover. Did Zimmerman receive any training for the Neighborhood Watch? Supposedly, they are advised against being armed and confronting suspicious people. If he had received such training then he should have been convicted of some offense.

The other factor is Martin's reaction in referring to Zimmerman as a "cracker" then reengaging him after the chase had ended, banging his head against the cement and giving him MMA-like blows. I wouldn't be surprised if he had an anti-whitey racist reverend whose vitriol played a major role in this tragedy.
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I believe what the Spirit of God reveals to me to be true
Anyone who thinks a mythical character from a plagiarized work of fiction communicates with them is dangerously delusional and should be institutionalized immediately. You're certifiably insane, kid.

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