Prove there's a god.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#642651 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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I think I remember having to sit through a training session on the stuff (trike). It may have been used in the gas turbines' water-injection systems... but, don't take my word for it.
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I'd say you could be correct... were it not for the fact that most every conceivable culprit had been swapped out... the PDC, ECU, starter, solenoid... you name it. All except for the wiring harness(es).
Traded that Jeep for another new one... almost had a new one anyway, sorta.
When I said it wouldn't start, it was to say that it wouldn't even turn over... just to clarify.
Doesn't matter. It's someone else's problem now. <<< That being a somewhat funny story in itself (briefly met the dude, almost).
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It is less expensive than SG.
Transmission switch?

Connectors on the harness corrode when wet, too.

My starter did the same thing, and it was just the starter. Wouldn't even click. Battery was fine. Putting a boost on, or playing with the ignition switch a bit always got it started. Didn't drive much, so let it go on for a year. Then I made myself change it.

Since: Sep 11

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#642652 Jul 18, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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4) This isn't the prohibition era...but if cigarettes were prohibited and I was incarcerated for smoking...no...it would not be inhumane...I would be serving time for committing a crime. Choosing to smoke cigarettes was simply stupid on my part, but it wasn't against the law. The fact that people choose substances that are unlawful, does entail punishment if caught. That isn't some wacked out idea I came up with on my own...when you break the law...and get caught, you should be punished. I'm not saying we should lock someone up and throw away the key for smoking a little weed...but they should incur some type of punishment because it's against the law. Honestly, I'm all for legalizing marijuana...but currently...it isn't legal...so we have to abide by the laws till they change. It's that simple.
Starting with 4 first cause of how ridiculous you're being:

You have what's called a "law and order" mentality/morality system. You only think about the law itself and not whether the law is right. It is *absurd* for you to say that it would be humane for you to be locked up for smoking cigarettes, but I guess you have to to continue justifying the drug war to yourself. Or maybe that's really how you think. We have a moral obligation to disobey, ignore, or fight laws that are inhumane. Drug prohibition is inhumane, wasteful, and stupid. It wastes lives and money. If they suddenly outlawed caffeine or certain books, would you say that we should just follow the law since it's the law? The law is only valid if it is just.

1) That wasn't a pun. You clearly do not know what harm reduction is. At least you didn't.

2) Please, please don't make me repeat this: It *does not matter* how many abusers go to rehab, that is not at all relevant to the calculation that was made. Again, rehab in general reduces the overall cost of drug abuse to society. The study did not take into account relapse rates or the overall ratio of abusers to quitters - these factors are irrelevant - it simply found that, after all the numbers are tallied, rehab saves 3 dollars for every dollar spent. This does not mean that rehab offsets the costs of drugs on society completely, it means that rehab is a good financial investment, and that we get more out of it than we put in. So, again, if we spend 100 dollars rehabilitating people, we go on to save 300 dollars in medical costs, accidents, etc. This is easy to understand.

3) Why is "the next choice to incarcerate?" You advocate that we stop trying rehab with addicts, which does have some success, is cheaper, and saves society money, in favor of a system that does not reduce drug use, is expensive, and wastes billions of dollars. Please explain that logic.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642653 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Man with a ferret in?
In what!?!?
BTW...
How's the noggin?
Laffin.
Well, how do you get rid of vermin?
Wi' a predator...

And I'm gonna have a scar, but just a teeny one.
All gooder now.

Apart from this sudden tendency to drive too fast and talk back to the police.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#642654 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Neither.
Yep. You do understand that if you believe there is a possibility that your god inspired mohammed, you should seriously looking into converting to islam. But you won't, because you are lying

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642655 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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Thank you Hukt!!!:)
Con gusto!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#642656 Jul 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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They have some very special peppers.
When they bring them to California, people line up for blocks, they empty the burlap sacks and roast them in metal thingies that go around and around.
It's said there are no peppers anywhere near those.
Roasted chile peppers. They do vary in potency per year. Taste before you buy. Hatch chile is the benchmark for chile.

You can get the green chile in supermarkets frozen. WalMart will probably have them. Some are pretty decent. I like green much more than red.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642657 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I remember those giant copy machines.
Why did they make you leave?!
Oh, they didn't. Just the machines went away.

That was when the dratted things were about the size of a king-sized bed.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642658 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>Lol!!!!
"That's all I got!"

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#642660 Jul 18, 2013
If you ever go to New Mexico and eat green chile sauce, you can run into an extremely wide variation in hot, and taste. You can run into some that will put you in respiratory arrest in short order.

Don't dig in. Give it a taste and wait a minute or two. Some are slow acting.

Water will not save you. Always have sour cream or avocado on the side. Those take the bite out of it.

Nowhere else in the world can they fix green chile sauce like in New Mexico. It isn't the thin stuff you get outside of there. Even Colorado can't fix it right.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642661 Jul 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Transmission switch?
Connectors on the harness corrode when wet, too.
My starter did the same thing, and it was just the starter. Wouldn't even click. Battery was fine. Putting a boost on, or playing with the ignition switch a bit always got it started. Didn't drive much, so let it go on for a year. Then I made myself change it.
I really have no idea.

It's understand where you're coming from >>> sh!t like that happens.

Purple Power accelerates/exacerbates the process... a lot.

Thus, my suspicions.

Hukt misses Jeeps, though... all except for what we're discussing.

That and 14MPG.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#642662 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I did answer, you're just to stupid and bias to understand.
You said "If God can't lie, how can he create a being that can lie?"
Derp.
I responded with "If you can't tell time, how can you create a clock?"
Derp again.
If it isn't within the god's make-up (I'll call it DNA), how can it produce something it doesn't possess? Would you like to submit an adult response, or are you just going to produce another red herring and childish insult?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#642663 Jul 18, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, they didn't. Just the machines went away.
That was when the dratted things were about the size of a king-sized bed.
I had one of those old Royal Bond copiers that I could never get to work reliably. The frame made for a neat rolling reloading bench. Solid as a rock. Even used a Pacific Big Max on it.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642664 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Why does that phrase ring a bell with me?(three-particle conundrum)
We're not talking scalar interactions are we?
Hope not.
My head'll explode.
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You're welcome, sir.
Proton/proton, and eventually iron.

With fusion, that is a bitch.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642665 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Two.
Hehe.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#642666 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It all DOES mean something, timmy...
Do atheists decide that the Bible is NOT the work of God and dive right into the decision that it all means nothing?
Actually, I think the christ character has some pretty sound philosophies. I just have never met anyone who claims to follow those philosophies actually put it into action, unless it's something easy, like giving spare change to feed the poor.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642668 Jul 18, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Proton/proton, and eventually iron.
With fusion, that is a bitch.
Oh... Okay.

That's it.

<head implodes>

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642669 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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Beaners.... Beaners.....
Don't look at me.
My country was occupied byu foreigners for about 800 years.

Conqured? Never.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#642670 Jul 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I had one of those old Royal Bond copiers that I could never get to work reliably. The frame made for a neat rolling reloading bench. Solid as a rock. Even used a Pacific Big Max on it.
I still like Dillon presses.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#642671 Jul 18, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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We live in a material world, and that is all we can measure. The rest is just philosophy and belief. There is no evidence that anything exists outside of the material world other than what people proclaim to be true. There is no evidence of "outside of nature".
Is that your answer to my questions? Really?
What do you mean by chain of reasoning from premises to conclusions? It seems that you're using buzz words to act as if you have some info that the rest of us aren't privy to. Other than your holier than thou arrogance and philosophies, what proof do you have of a god.
Well, to simplify it. In the "laws of logic" vs philosophy of naturalism, the laws of logic, debunk that philosopy....

premĀ·ise (prms)
n. also premĀ·iss (prms)
1. A proposition upon which an argument is based or from which a conclusion is drawn.

2. Logic
a. One of the propositions in a deductive argument.

b. Either the major or the minor proposition of a syllogism, from which the conclusion is drawn.

Holier than though... So your gonna resort to name calling like the rest of them huh... Typical, when you cant give a "reasonable" explanation to a direct question.
Describe to me in a convincing way how the laws of logic would lead you to believe that's it's rational to believe that the "ancients" knew more than us and that they just weren't making shit up.
I will respond to that question, as soon as you answer mine in the other post..

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#642672 Jul 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
If you ever go to New Mexico and eat green chile sauce, you can run into an extremely wide variation in hot, and taste. You can run into some that will put you in respiratory arrest in short order.
Don't dig in. Give it a taste and wait a minute or two. Some are slow acting.
Water will not save you. Always have sour cream or avocado on the side. Those take the bite out of it.
Nowhere else in the world can they fix green chile sauce like in New Mexico. It isn't the thin stuff you get outside of there. Even Colorado can't fix it right.
You and I should converse on this sort of subject.
You are absolutely correct.
There are deadly peppers in Thailand, too. In some restaurants, a guy walks around wheeling a wooden cart with green mangos. Customers buy them from him, to cut the heat, just like with cream or avocado or a glass of milk (arrrgh).
I once saw an idiot who tried to out-macho a Thai pepper.
You don't want to hear the details.

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