1) LOL...yes I know what harm reduction is...it was a pun. but the reality is...if the abuser isn't compliant with Harm Reduction services, and they often are not...then the next step should be JAIL. we cannot allow drug abusers to continually break the law, just because we know people are gonna do drugs.<quoted text>1) Do you even know what the term 'harm reduction' means in regards to drug use?
2) Go back and read the article. The study is for the institution of rehab in general, not just the people it works for.
3) I never said that rehab works every time. But jail *doesn't work at all.* You keep ignoring the fact that the drug war has not produced a single appreciable effect when it comes to reducing drug use or the costs associated with it.
4) It is inhumane to put people in jail for breaking a law that shouldn't exist. Do you think you should have been jailed every time you were caught with a pack of cigarettes? If you lived during prohibition, would you consider your treatment humane if you were locked up for having a drink?
I know, it's "different." Because you chose a drug that society deems acceptable, you were in the right, but because some people choose a drug that has been outlawed for no reason, they are criminals to be punished. Am I getting the logic right?
2) I fully comprehend how statistics work. AGAIN, and for the very last time...if rehab works then it will reduce costs...just like the stats say. If it doesn't, it is an additional cost, which is why I said in an earlier post..."I'm not against rehab...but we need to rethink our programs and implement something that actually works." Additionally, we need rehab centers that abusers will actually go to. I can't even find the link I posted to you earlier and that post is probably 1000 posts back...but here's the gist of it...how can anyone support a statistic that says rehab has reduced the drug cost 3 to 1 when only a small percentage of abusers actually go to rehab and then 40-60% end up relapsing.
Another study, conducted by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, indicated that 23.5 million individuals suffered from an illicit drug abuse or alcohol problem in the year 2009. A mere 11.2 percent, or 2.1 million people, obtained help from a specialized facility.
So there you have it... I'm not saying we shouldn't provide rehab...but if people aren't going and many relapse...we need to regroup before spending millions...then, hold the abusers accountable if they continue to go back to drugs after we provide help.
3)At no time, have I ever advocated the actions of the drug war. I agree, incarceration doesn't rehabilitate...but when only a small percentage of abusersl actually go to rehab, that's the next option. If they attend rehab, but continually relapse, it's clear...they have no intention of rehabilitating. AGAIN...at some point people have to take responsibility for their actions. when they don't...they leave society with no choice but to incarcerate. That isn't my fault...it is their own.
4) This isn't the prohibition era...but if cigarettes were prohibited and I was incarcerated for smoking...no...it would not be inhumane...I would be serving time for committing a crime. Choosing to smoke cigarettes was simply stupid on my part, but it wasn't against the law. The fact that people choose substances that are unlawful, does entail punishment if caught. That isn't some wacked out idea I came up with on my own...when you break the law...and get caught, you should be punished. I'm not saying we should lock someone up and throw away the key for smoking a little weed...but they should incur some type of punishment because it's against the law. Honestly, I'm all for legalizing marijuana...but currently...it isn't legal...so we have to abide by the laws till they change. It's that simple.