Prove there's a god.

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#642585 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>When the New International Version was published in 1980, I was one of those who hailed it with delight. I believed its own claim about itself, that it was determined to translate exactly what was there, and inject no extra paraphrasing or interpretative glosses.... Disillusionment set in over the next two years, as I lectured verse by verse through several of Paul's letters, not least Galatians and Romans. Again and again, with the Greek text in front of me and the NIV beside it, I discovered that the translators had another principle, considerably higher than the stated one: to make sure that Paul should say what the broadly Protestant and evangelical tradition said he said....[I]f a church only, or mainly, relies on the NIV it will, quite simply, never understand what Paul was talking about.[24]
Sounds like it was tailor made for you. The NIV is not without it's fair share of detractors - you act as if they effected a word for word translation, when the translators themselves admit that they did not do that.
...Compared to the KJV version, who's 'committee' was an ignorant king.

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#642586 Jul 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
Over half a million posts and still not one shred of evidence that this God exists.
You missed it, a few hundred thousand posts ago.

Go fish.

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#642587 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>They hate it. A particular objection to the 1984 version was the gender inclusiveness and implications of female equality.
Where'd you get that crap from?

Any examples?

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#642588 Jul 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
Over half a million posts and still not one shred of evidence that this God exists.
Silly goose. You won't find him on Topix.

"Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you." (James 4:8)

I'm sure that in the past you've had a personal disappointment with God as some on here have told me and I'm really truly sorry to hear that.

The fact that you're very knowledgable in the Bible and the fact that you keep digging at others that believe tells me that deep down you're truly digging to find him instead.

No my friend, you won't find him on Topix.
You'll only find him in your heart but only if you're ready and only if you let him.

I really would prefer civil to you as I see something there that maybe you don't. I see someone looking for answers as I do but from a different perspective.

Good luck friend and I wish you the best on your search.

AL

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#642589 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Haha. A christian skeptic.
It is beyond your freethinking abilities.

I don't expect you to understand.

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#642590 Jul 18, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Must be lurkers.
You've been pwned by every atheist posting here.
I own you, my bitch.

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#642591 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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I'm Merican! Dammit!
YAY!!!

Now let's go to Del Taco for some genuine Mexican food...

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642592 Jul 18, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>ChowN, yes. Damned typos - and I just had a man with a ferret in.
And "We Need To Talk About Kelvin."
Just making sure.

Thx... I'll get around to reading or listening to it sometime.

Checking out his list of titles and it looks like the guy's authored several works that'd appeal to me.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642593 Jul 18, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>ChowN, yes. Damned typos - and I just had a man with a ferret in.
And "We Need To Talk About Kelvin."
Man with a ferret in?

In what!?!?

BTW...

How's the noggin?

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642594 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt wouldn't complain one bit if Topix would just do away with the judgits altogether.

They're nothing but a nuisance.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#642595 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
YAY!!!
Now let's go to Del Taco for some genuine Mexican food...
Back in 1986 I flew with my then girlfriend out to Des Moines Iowa to meet her family.
One of her cousins (I'll call him Punky) comes up to me and says "you're Mexcan ain't ya!?"
It was half way between a statement and a question.
I said "yup! That I am"
He said "well.... We got good Mexican food out here, its called Taco Bell.... You ever hear of it?"
"Nope!" I said "but I'd sure be interested in trying your so called Taco Bell"

Ohhhh..... The memories......

“Ditat Deus”

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#642596 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
Hukt wouldn't complain one bit if Topix would just do away with the judgits altogether.
They're nothing but a nuisance.
Get an iPhone, you can't even see them.

It's wonderful.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

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#642597 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Lol
I got questioned (and subsequently NOT hired) for writing "American" in the 'other' box.
Once upon a time, I worked for a copier service company. Fixing stuff.

Got a call one day to go to a prominent defence contractor - it might have been Rockwell - they make rocket bits.
I filled out a whole entry form, and where it said "Citizen of" I put down "Éire". That's the Republic of Ireland.

I had all the guts torn out of this massive office copier (remember those?) when a security guy came and escorted me off the premises. leaving the machine scattered all over Hell's half acre.

To this day I do not know who put it back together.

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#642598 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're trying to tell us the "real meaning" of what Jesus said.
Hypocrite.
He's saying jesus said what he said. Christians are the ones who tell us all about "context" and "the real meaning."

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#642599 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, you did assume. You claimed to know that I think all other religions are myths and now you're trying to justify your assumptions with more assumptions.
Knock it off, don't be an ass.
If you assume something about someone, ASK.
You're just being dumb. It's not an assumption if I have good reason to believe it. You are a christian. Therefore, you believe in jesus, original sin, all that jazz - so you must necessarily consider all other religions myths.

Tell me I'm wrong. We both know I'm not.

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#642600 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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We now have a Comitee on Bible Translation...
http://www.niv-cbt.org/
...thats responsible for any and all translations of the Bible to be as accurate as possible. All proposed changes are studied and examined by committee members, discussed and voted on. Changes are not made easily.
So?

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#642601 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
Back in 1986 I flew with my then girlfriend out to Des Moines Iowa to meet her family.
One of her cousins (I'll call him Punky) comes up to me and says "you're Mexcan ain't ya!?"
It was half way between a statement and a question.
I said "yup! That I am"
He said "well.... We got good Mexican food out here, its called Taco Bell.... You ever hear of it?"
"Nope!" I said "but I'd sure be interested in trying your so called Taco Bell"
Ohhhh..... The memories......
Ahahaha!!!! Serious?

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#642602 Jul 18, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Once upon a time, I worked for a copier service company. Fixing stuff.
Got a call one day to go to a prominent defence contractor - it might have been Rockwell - they make rocket bits.
I filled out a whole entry form, and where it said "Citizen of" I put down "Éire". That's the Republic of Ireland.
I had all the guts torn out of this massive office copier (remember those?) when a security guy came and escorted me off the premises. leaving the machine scattered all over Hell's half acre.
To this day I do not know who put it back together.
I remember those giant copy machines.

Why did they make you leave?!

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#642603 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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...Compared to the KJV version, who's 'committee' was an ignorant king.
I have no dog in this fight and I don't care which translation suits your fancy. My point is, no one can claim to have the "best" translation when we aren't dealing with word for word translations, because there will always be others who tout theirs as the best. It's a matter of which decoder ring you're wearing

Is the NIV word for word? No. It makes assumptions too, just based on a protestant pauline ideology. That's why you like it.

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#642604 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Where'd you get that crap from?
Any examples?
Some of the verses are particularly problematic, CBMW says, including two verses in Paul's letters which CBMW says leaves room open for female pastors or apostles.

"Our gender decisions were made on the basis of very careful and significant research ... and the decisions we've made about gender have no motivation of not offending people," he told Baptist Press, explaining that the committee used the Collins Bank of English, a database of 4.4 billion words showing how people are speaking and writing. "The motivation, rather, is to communicate clearly to people what we think arguably is contemporary English."

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