Prove there's a god.

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#642701 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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How do you know that?
It aligns with his beliefs most closely.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#642702 Jul 18, 2013
Covert Stealth Op wrote:
<quoted text>How can gays be normal when they repeatedly say they are not straight's equal,
wasn't normal? Obvious examples are: Gay 14:28 (“...for the straight is
greater than gay”), Gay 20:17 ("I ascend unto my bottom, and your mother,
and to the gays, and your mom"), and Gay 7:16 ("My doctrine is not mine
but the gay who made me").
We see you like to write about gays.

Don't worry man, we don't judge. What you do in your bedroom, is your business

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

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...are my strong suits!

#642703 Jul 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Cop walks up and asks, "Do you know how fast you were going, sir?"
Driver responds, "Yes. Do you know why I was speeding?"
Lemme revise that. It might have been more like...

Cop: "Do you know why you were pulled over, sir?"

Driver: "Yes. Do you?"

“Is that all you've got?”

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#642704 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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I'm Merican! Dammit!
lol, one of my exe's ancestors middle name was "American".

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#642705 Jul 18, 2013
Yo peeple.

Double Fine tried going through the overnight posts, found it as boring as church. Skipped it.

If anyone addressed Double Fine, please send link.

May the humility and awesomeness flow through you all

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

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...are my strong suits!

#642706 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It aligns with his beliefs most closely.
That'd by my guess as well.

Were you around when RR insisted that he isn't Catholic...

or Protestant?

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#642707 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
Your link's not working.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinth...

Here ya go.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

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...are my strong suits!

#642708 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
Yo peeple.
Double Fine tried going through the overnight posts, found it as boring as church. Skipped it.
If anyone addressed Double Fine, please send link.
May the humility and awesomeness flow through you all
Wait jis a danged minute!

You're here all night.

Hehehe.

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#642709 Jul 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, then a bunch of russian harry potter enthusiasts. Why are you getting hung up on the specifics and completely missing the point? The point is - I don't care how exactly your translation of choice is compiled, and it holds as much relevance to me as the specific details concerning an english/russian harry potter translation.
If you're not interested in it then why do you keep yapping about it?

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#642710 Jul 18, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
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Is that your answer to my questions? Really?
<quoted text>
Well, to simplify it. In the "laws of logic" vs philosophy of naturalism, the laws of logic, debunk that philosopy....
prem·ise (prms)
n. also prem·iss (prms)
1. A proposition upon which an argument is based or from which a conclusion is drawn.
2. Logic
a. One of the propositions in a deductive argument.
b. Either the major or the minor proposition of a syllogism, from which the conclusion is drawn.
Holier than though... So your gonna resort to name calling like the rest of them huh... Typical, when you cant give a "reasonable" explanation to a direct question.
<quoted text>
I will respond to that question, as soon as you answer mine in the other post..
You're obfuscating and throwing in a bunch of unnecessary definitions. Nothing debunks logic.

Now, logically prove your god and stop playing word games. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Empirical proof will do (logic). Just ask your god to do it. According to your bible, you can do it. Ask and it will happen. Your god promises. I'll wait.

Well, maybe not. I'm usually too busy.

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#642711 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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All of those are atheist lies! And err.. Natural laws as of yet undiscovered.
Right, RR?
That post was ignored. Calling me stupid seemed more important at the time.

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#642712 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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I did not use 'theory' in the scientific sense. Currently, there are two competing hypotheses for the origin of snakes. That aside, you still have fully formed snake fossils during the early Cretaceous!
So:
1) Either man lived 112 million years ago and the predecessor to the snake got punished, or
2) The Adam and Eve story is a fable
It used to have hands, feet, and vocal chords....and of course a fully developed brain with speech capability, but god got mad at it.

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#642713 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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No, us atheists believe that the bible is not the work of *a* god and it all means nothing.
If you read the Quran, are you going to put any stock into it? How about ancient Greek transcripts about the glory of Zeus?
Has thou forsaken the FSM?

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#642714 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's because it's a true translation, done by a worldwide team of unbiased scholars that all agreed upon what the actual translation should be.
Unlike the KJV, which was done by six British men under the command of their king to make it the way he wanted it.
This is one of the main problems in Christianity. You expect others to believe that your Bible is the word of God, yet you do not believe that anyway.

For hundreds of years, people believed in this KJV, and yet now it has grave errors? So many errors and so severe that it calls for a revision?

And do not make the mistake that versions and translations are the same thing. It's not.

If you take any book today that has been translated, what does that mean? It means simply that the book has been converted to another language. Take any book like the Da Vinci Code for example. Each sentence is translated. But each sentence is still present. They did not take out chunks of sentences that are present in the original english and throw it away. Or they did not put in sentences that Dan Brown did not write in his original.

But with the Bible, there are different "Versions", not merely different "Translations". This is because these different "versions", do not have the same number of verses, or even the same number of chapters! You have the Catholic bible, which has 73 books, then there is the Protestant Bible which has 66 books. 7 entire chapters or books, thrown out by the protestants! Some Orthodox Bibles have up to 81 books!

As if that is not bad enough, the Protestant bible has many numerous versions. Many verses in the KJV are not present in the revised standard version (RIV) created in 1901. Entire sentences removed, dismissed as fabricated and not "Gods word". This was grounds of uncovering ancient scriptures from 3rd century. But then there is the New International Version of 1970, where they have inserted certain verses previously not in the RIV, into the NIV!

Now, what nonsense is this? Entire chapters being thrown out and put back in. Verses being thrown out and put back in. Biblical scholars themselves do not trust the Bible to be the inerrant word of God, yet you expect everyone else to believe in it?

Why should I believe the NIV? In a few years time they will have a revised NIV with verses taken out or put in, and then you'll be promoting that one?

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#642715 Jul 18, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Your link's not working.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinth...
Here ya go.
Sorry, some random characters inserted themselves in the link. Here:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

If it doesn't work again, just search google for "bible gateway 1 corinthians 7 ASV."

Also, I thought the KJV was evil? Now you are using it when it suits your purposes? Or is it only RR who hates it, and you're fine with it?

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#642716 Jul 18, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>If you're not interested in it then why do you keep yapping about it?
If my money said "in hogwarts we trust," I'd be yapping about that.

Also, I enjoy mindless banter.

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#642717 Jul 18, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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This is one of the main problems in Christianity. You expect others to believe that your Bible is the word of God, yet you do not believe that anyway.
For hundreds of years, people believed in this KJV, and yet now it has grave errors? So many errors and so severe that it calls for a revision?
And do not make the mistake that versions and translations are the same thing. It's not.
If you take any book today that has been translated, what does that mean? It means simply that the book has been converted to another language. Take any book like the Da Vinci Code for example. Each sentence is translated. But each sentence is still present. They did not take out chunks of sentences that are present in the original english and throw it away. Or they did not put in sentences that Dan Brown did not write in his original.
But with the Bible, there are different "Versions", not merely different "Translations". This is because these different "versions", do not have the same number of verses, or even the same number of chapters! You have the Catholic bible, which has 73 books, then there is the Protestant Bible which has 66 books. 7 entire chapters or books, thrown out by the protestants! Some Orthodox Bibles have up to 81 books!
As if that is not bad enough, the Protestant bible has many numerous versions. Many verses in the KJV are not present in the revised standard version (RIV) created in 1901. Entire sentences removed, dismissed as fabricated and not "Gods word". This was grounds of uncovering ancient scriptures from 3rd century. But then there is the New International Version of 1970, where they have inserted certain verses previously not in the RIV, into the NIV!
Now, what nonsense is this? Entire chapters being thrown out and put back in. Verses being thrown out and put back in. Biblical scholars themselves do not trust the Bible to be the inerrant word of God, yet you expect everyone else to believe in it?
Why should I believe the NIV? In a few years time they will have a revised NIV with verses taken out or put in, and then you'll be promoting that one?
But it's a team of international scholars, and they assure us they very carefully interpret god's word.

“Listen to the sounds”

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#642718 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not use 'theory' in the scientific sense. Currently, there are two competing hypotheses for the origin of snakes. That aside, you still have fully formed snake fossils during the early Cretaceous!
So:
1) Either man lived 112 million years ago and the predecessor to the snake got punished, or
2) The Adam and Eve story is a fable
I think the claim that it was indeed a snake which tempted Adam and Eve, was probably made up to scare people into not going near snakes, as they are poisonous and unpredictable.

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#642719 Jul 18, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Your link's not working.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinth...
Here ya go.
The verse you posted is only slightly less repugnant anyway. It implies male ownership of women,("his virgin"), and it says that a man may do what he will with a virgin so long as she has had her period. So, if you want to rape "your" virgin, it's cool so long as she's had her period and you marry her afterwards.

“Listen to the sounds”

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#642720 Jul 19, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>But it's a team of international scholars, and they assure us they very carefully interpret god's word.
It's not interpretation.

With the Quran, we have one Arabic Quran regarded as the original Quran. And then there are numerous imperfect line by line translations for all the non arabic speakers to study. But ultimately, all Muslims know the Quran to be the original Arabic text, and whatever translation they read is merely a translation.

But with the Bible, it is not a word for word or sentence by sentence translation of some original Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew text. They throw certain sentences and chapters out, and they put sentences or chapters in!

For any translation of any book, if the original has 1000 sentences spread across 4 chapters, the translation will have 1000 sentences across 4 chapters. That is basic logic. If one translation has 1200 sentences in 3 chapters, then it is obviously never going to be the work of the original author. It's obvious there is fabrication and tampering involved.

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