Prove there's a god.

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#642490 Jul 18, 2013
In Matt. 16:28 Jesus said,“There be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his
kingdom." Yet, they all died and he never came.

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#642493 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Bible is a lot more interesting when you actually study... it.
LOL! You study the Bible, that's a good one.

1 COR. 7:36 ("But if a man thinketh that he behaveth himself unseemly toward his virgin daughter...and if need so requireth, let him do what he will; he sinneth not; let them marry"--(American Standard Version)

Here BibleGod tells us that if a heterosexual man wants to molest his virgin daughter, it is not a sin, but he should marry her before he molests her.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#642495 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"We Need To Talk About Kelvin". Read it?
Nope. Prolly will now, though... eventually.

It's been appended to the list.
Mac recommended it to me to help me undertstand a little more when y'all start discussing physics and stuff.
I've never known Mac's recommendations to not be worth the effort involved in pursuing them.

What have you learned so far, 50 pages in?

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#642497 Jul 18, 2013
Covert Stealth Op wrote:
<quoted text>Hearsay is not allowed in a court of law yet for atheists it is all you have to know about black holes, someone told them and they believed them.
Santa Claus has a message to all the little atheists in the world:
Dear little atheists, some day you will know everything there is to know about Santa Claus, and on that day, I want you to remember everything the adults told you about evolution and black holes.
You are completely clueless aren't you. You do not realize that this is not about tit for tat, or name calling or asserting that your beliefs are better than my beliefs. You fail to realize that facts, proof and evidence are part of the game. You go 100% with what other people have told you, and I go with what can be proven which is why I quote the Bible to prove it is unreliable and can not be trusted.

Why can't you pew warmers see a difference between saying the Bible can not be trusted and proving it can not be trusted?

Mark 16:17-18, which says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lays hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Since you believe the Bible tells us you can drink a quart of Draino and it shall not hurt you.

We both know that is false. Everyone who has drank a quart of Draino has died; the Bible lies.

Now, that is not me saying the Bible lies, I quote the lies, why can't you see there is a difference? I swear, warming pews drops ones IQ to a number lower than the number of the size of ones shoes.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#642498 Jul 18, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Yo Aura
Breathe deeply. Think of puppies and kittens. Have a smoke. Drink a beer.
Relax
http://vimeo.com/62334329

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#642499 Jul 18, 2013
Covert Stealth Op wrote:
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If you think you can draw me away from quoting the stupid Bible's many errors, contradictions and fallacies and to deal with your dishonesty you are mistaken.

More lies the Bible tells us:

verses which give unlimited powers to those who pray and ask God for assistance. Among these are comments as:

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened"--Matt. 7:7-8, Luke 11:9-10;

"Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you"--John 16:23;

"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive"Matt. 21:22.

John 14:13-14 NIV, "And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Mark 11:24 (KJV), "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#642501 Jul 18, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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You seem to be quite heated up about this Zimmerman case. What is your stake in this? And are you happy with the verdict?
Frankly my Dear. I don't give a damn.



“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#642502 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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5'1"....?
97lbs...?
Dayum...
I'm like two of you.
Yeah it would take two of you , to equal in IQ.

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#642503 Jul 18, 2013
JESUS: "Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you"--John 16:23;

Jesus is liar and we all know it. That is not my opinion it is a fact. Name one amputee who has asked God in the name of Jesus for a new arm and got one.

The Bible is pure ignorance and lies and whosoever believes is deceived.

"O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived...." (Jer. 20:7).

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#642504 Jul 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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'Try the NIV, it wasn't translated by ignorant, medieval people.'
- Old and new testaments were originally published by 1978, and updated in 1984
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Internationa...
Since it was published int eh 20th C., it must've been translated by some ignorant, modern folks, huh?
Why would you think an edition - published 950 years after the supposed death of Jesus, is accurate?
You are not being logical.
Because humans -and societies- are much less ignorant than we were back then.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#642505 Jul 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Jesus: "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" (Matt. 19:21);
nanoanomaly translation of Jesus in Matt. 19:21,"The 'love' of money keeps the wealthy from loving God; if you love possessions more than anything else your love is pointless."
Who appointed you nanoanomaly to translate the words of Jesus for us?
Why is Jesus so stupid that he can't say what he really means?
Given the choice between your translation and the translations of the professionals who have devoted their lives to the study of ancient languages I'll not go with you, that is for sure.
The truth is, you just don't like what Jesus is saying to you and you are grasping for any lie you can make up to get out of doing what Jesus CLEARLY tells you to do. Not just once but a dozen times.
If you pew warmers don't take the Bible seriously, how in the hell do you think you'll ever get us normal people to take it seriously?
Please do explain that.
"..... Us normal people....." That's rich Rev! Made me laugh.

Actually, nano was correct. That verse was intended to illustrate the stumbling blocks that many of us suffer from coveting our possessions.
What Jesus was telling the youngster was to give freely from the heart towards others and whatever profits that he received from the sale of his stuff he was to give to the poor, the needy and the fatherless rather than to friends and relatives who stood to possibly profit from it.

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#642506 Jul 18, 2013
"...of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17), "God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die" (Gen. 3:3), "the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die" (Gen. 3:4), and "all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died" (Gen. 5:5). God said Adam and Eve would die on the day they ate of the tree and the devil said they would not. They ate of it and Adam lived to be 930 years old. In other words, God lied and the devil told the truth.

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#642507 Jul 18, 2013
Rom.3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God."
1Kgs. 8:46 "...for there is no man that sinneth not,...."
Prov.20:9 "Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?"
Eccl. 7:23 "For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not."
Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."
Rom. 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one."
(Also 1 John 1:8 & 10, Rom. 3:12, 5:12, Gal. 3:22)

Versus

Gen. 6:9 "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God."
Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
Job 1:8 "...my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?" (Job 2:3)
Gen. 7:1 "And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation."
Luke 1:5-6 "In the days of Herod, the king of Judaea,there was a priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abia: and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.(RSV)

RiversideRedneck

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#642508 Jul 18, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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ahhh yes the unbiased scholars at the New York Bible Society....
The NIV translation took over ten years to compile, involved over a hundred scholars from around the world and involved several different denominations.

Compared to the KJV, done in six years by six English men under orders from their king with no worldly access and knowledge.

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#642509 Jul 18, 2013
Num. 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent."
1 Sam. 15:29 "And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent."

Versus

Jonah 3:10 "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not."
1 Sam.15:11 "It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king...."
Exod. 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Psalms.42:10 "... for I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you."
Gen. 6:6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."
1 Sam. 15:35 "...and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel."

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#642510 Jul 18, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text> That verse was intended to illustrate the stumbling blocks that many of us suffer from coveting our possessions.
What Jesus was telling the youngster was to give freely from the heart towards others and whatever profits that he received from the sale of his stuff he was to give to the poor, the needy and the fatherless rather than to friends and relatives who stood to possibly profit from it.
All you Christians appointing yourselves to tell us what Jesus really meant to say because apparently Jesus is too stupid to actually say what he meant.

Jesus: "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" (Matt. 19:21);

nanoanomaly translation of Jesus in Matt. 19:21,"The 'love' of money keeps the wealthy from loving God; if you love possessions more than anything else your love is pointless."

Al Garcia's version of Jesus in Matt. 19:21: Give freely from the heart towards others and whatever profits that ye receive from the sale of your stuff; give to the poor, the needy and the fatherless but not to friends and relatives who stand to profit from it.

It is any wonder that there are 33,000 Christians sects that can not agree with one another? With each of you just making up anything at all and claiming it is what Jesus really meant, anything goes.

Dealing with Christians is like trying to push a rope or nailing jello to the wall.

You are all deceitful, deceptive and dishonest and you are all calling Jesus a liar and treating him like an imbecile who babbles and foams at the mouth totally divorced from reality and unable to say what he means.

This Christian dog and pony show has gone on far too long.

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#642511 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The NIV translation took over ten years to compile, involved over a hundred scholars from around the world and involved several different denominations.
Compared to the KJV, done in six years by six English men under orders from their king with no worldly access and knowledge.
and yet there are missing verses and extra words in the NIV...not to mention the drastic reduction in numbers of people who happened to have been killed by your new 'god-lite'.

I don't even think the southern baptist convention will touch it will they?

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#642512 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The NIV translation took over ten years to compile, involved over a hundred scholars from around the world and involved several different denominations.
Compared to the KJV, done in six years by six English men under orders from their king with no worldly access and knowledge.
Irrelevant.

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#642513 Jul 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because humans -and societies- are much less ignorant than we were back then.
You are just as ignorant today as they were back then.

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#642515 Jul 18, 2013
One of the most important concepts in Christianity is original sin or the belief that all mankind has inherited a sinful nature brought about by the acts of Adam and Eve.

Rom. 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,..."
1Cor. 15:22 "For as in Adam all die,..."

Yet, no amount of theological reasoning can make an inherently unjust idea seem right. Punishing billions of people for the acts of one is not only inherently unfair and unwarranted but also in opposition to other Biblical verses such as:

Deut. 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers.
2 Chron.25:54, "...:every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
2 Kings 14:6, "wherein the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

Ezek. 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bearthe iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

Ezek.33:20 "O ye house of Israel,I will judge you every one after his ways."

Jer. 31:29-30 "In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge."

Rom. 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds."

Ezek. 18:4 "... the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

Each of these verses shows that every person should only be punished for those sins which he commits, not those of others.

Original sin makes about as much sense as if I were sitting at home one evening and the following occurred. The police came to my door and stated I was under arrest because my father in Europe just shot and killed someone. I responded by asking what that had to do with me and they said, "He's your father isn't he?"

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