Prove there's a god.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#641751 Jul 16, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I said "repellent". I already know how to kill them but would rather they stayed away so I wouldn't have to get up close and personal with them.
I read your post about killing them in the house. Brought back a childhood memory. I was about 5 or so when a little grass snake got into the back door into the kitchen. I watched my mother and oldest sister pushing each other off a chair while trying to get away from it. They finally hit it with a hammer. They hollered at me to get out of there but I just stood watching the silliness.

You have a crawlspace under the house? Nice warm space with bugs to eat, and/or mice. Set off some bug bombs. Throw those mothballs under there. Make sure you have flashing at the bottom of any siding you have. Screened vents. Keep the ground cleared for a couple of feet around the house. You might try glue traps tacked where they can get in. Keep a hoe handy in the house. Get a mongoose for a pet.

http://www.snake-removal.com/fencing.html

Marigolds are reputed to discourage snakes, and squash bugs.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#641752 Jul 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling me a caveman?
Would you rather I call you pop-top, Mr. Can-Man?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#641753 Jul 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I read your post about killing them in the house. Brought back a childhood memory. I was about 5 or so when a little grass snake got into the back door into the kitchen. I watched my mother and oldest sister pushing each other off a chair while trying to get away from it. They finally hit it with a hammer. They hollered at me to get out of there but I just stood watching the silliness.
You have a crawlspace under the house? Nice warm space with bugs to eat, and/or mice. Set off some bug bombs. Throw those mothballs under there. Make sure you have flashing at the bottom of any siding you have. Screened vents. Keep the ground cleared for a couple of feet around the house. You might try glue traps tacked where they can get in. Keep a hoe handy in the house. Get a mongoose for a pet.
http://www.snake-removal.com/fencing.html
Marigolds are reputed to discourage snakes, and squash bugs.
Hardware cloth a foot wide or so and angled out as in that article might be a cheap fence.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#641754 Jul 16, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I have a cat that slaps one around occasionally, but I've never seen her wreck one totally. I don't think she takes them seriously enough.
We used to have a Labrador that would get between me and anything else that got in the yard. I thought it was sweet when he kept a snake away when I was sun bathing one time. He was the only good dog I've ever had, the rest were less than useless. He came up missing during a trip to my in-laws house. The thing is...I don't trust dogs around kids either. They are too unpredictable.
I have a Pit Bull and a herd of Chihuahuas. The ones I worry about are the little dogs. They have attitudes that are larger than they are. The Pit (which I rescued from the Shelter) I got to protect the maniacal little ones from the coyotes here and about Rancho Cucamonga. My Pit is the gentlest, kindest dog that I've ever known.

Since: Sep 11

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#641755 Jul 16, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I saw "may be" twice and "may have" mentioned once in regard to a loss of genes in that article. There's always the possibility that those particular genes never existed inside the human genome.
Was joking. Not too hung up on our ancient barb penises.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#641756 Jul 16, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious cults prey on feeble-minded and weak-willed cretins like you to do their bidding, death-denying cowardly Christian godbot Al Garcia.
you really must have some serious woodchuck (demon) problems if you can hate Al for being a Christian! you're about the only person i've ever heard accuse him of such a thing.

props to you, Al, for finally earning some persecution points!;-)

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#641757 Jul 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I read your post about killing them in the house. Brought back a childhood memory. I was about 5 or so when a little grass snake got into the back door into the kitchen. I watched my mother and oldest sister pushing each other off a chair while trying to get away from it. They finally hit it with a hammer. They hollered at me to get out of there but I just stood watching the silliness.
You have a crawlspace under the house? Nice warm space with bugs to eat, and/or mice. Set off some bug bombs. Throw those mothballs under there. Make sure you have flashing at the bottom of any siding you have. Screened vents. Keep the ground cleared for a couple of feet around the house. You might try glue traps tacked where they can get in. Keep a hoe handy in the house. Get a mongoose for a pet.
http://www.snake-removal.com/fencing.html
Marigolds are reputed to discourage snakes, and squash bugs.
The catch net looks interesting. Is it legal to own mongoose (mongeese?) in the U.S.?:]

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#641758 Jul 16, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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The thing about christian apologetics is that the apologetics are for the benefit of the christian themselves. They aren't trying to justify the bible or anything in it to anyone else, christian apologetics is like mantra meditation or self hypnosis to reinforce faith which is shaken by rationality.
"See it could be true..."
"I know it said flaming chariot but how would a goatherd decribe the Saturn V rocket?"
"Snake actually meant,'Sneaky man in a sharp suit with snakeskin shoes' whose name was Stan"......
"The thing about christian apologetics is..."

dat's why i don't apologize to sinners for being ignorant sinners; i try to persuade them that THEY need to do some serious apologizing....AND FAST!;)

“Is that all you've got?”

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#641759 Jul 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hay!
Don't be talkin no shit on Donkey.
You don't want RR as an enemy.
:p
What's really scary is that I've seen a couple of these guys lurking around here...in my town.



The only way these turds could know who I am is through topix stalkers. wtf

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#641760 Jul 16, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>The catch net looks interesting. Is it legal to own mongoose (mongeese?) in the U.S.?:]
http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...

Try peacocks or guinea fowl.

Since: Feb 09

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#641761 Jul 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible says a serpent talked, not a snake.
There are 233 English version/translations of the Bible. Are you sure each and every one of them uses the word "serpent"?

The following verses prove that not all Bibles are in agreement with one another.

EX. 20:3 ("You shall not have no other gods before me"--KJ, RS, ML, AS, NAS, MT, NI) versus ("You shall have no other gods except or besides me"--JB, NAB, TEV, BBE, LV). A clash over the first commandment arises from the fact that the former group merely says you must put the god of the Bible at the top of the list. Worship of other gods is not prohibited.

1 SAM. 6:19 ("But God smote of the men of Beth-shemesh ...50,070...."--KJ, AS, NWT, NAS, MT) versus ("...he slew 70 men of them"--RS, LB, JB, BBE, NEB, NAB, TEV, NI) versus ("the Lord smote 5,070 men of the people"--LV). Whether God killed 70 people or over 50,000 for a relatively innocuous act bears directly on the biblical teaching in Deut. 32:4, Psalm 9:8, etc. that God is just and righteous. Apparently this troubles scholars and accounts for the dramatic reduction in numbers in many recent translations.

JOB 19:26 ("...yet in my flesh shall I see God"--KJ, LB, NI, TEV, NWT) versus ("then from or without my flesh I shall see God"--RS, ML, JB, AS, BBE, NAB, MT, NAS). The latter denies the physical resurrection of mankind which the former affirms.

PROV. 28:3 ("A ruler who oppresses the poor is like a driving rain...."--NI, BBE, NAB, TEV) versus "A poor man that oppresseth the poor"--KJ, RS, ML, LB, AS, NAS, MT, LV). It's hard to visualize how a poor man could oppress the poor which is probably why the NI, NAB and TEV translators reversed the script. The biblical view of an important social issue is quite muddled.

ISA. 7:14 ("Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son...."--KJ, ML, LB, NI, AS, NAB, NAS, LV) versus ("Behold, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son...."--RS, BBE, NEB, TEV, MT) or (a young maiden--JB, NWT). This clash has been debated for centuries and goes to the heart of a critical biblical teaching because it's the only OT prophecy referring to the Messiah's virgin birth.

MICAH 5:2 ("...whose goings forth have been from old from everlasting"--KJ, ML, LB, AS, BBE, NWT, NAS, LV) versus ("...whose origin is from old from ancient days"--RS, JB, NI, NEB, TEV, MT, NAB). Micah 5:2 is supposedly one of the most precise OT prophecies because it supposedly predicts the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. But how could it be referring to Jesus if his goings were "from ancient days" which, unlike "everlasting" denotes a beginning at some time in the distant past? Whether or not the Messiah had an origin is crucial.

MATT. 12:40 ("For as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly"--KJ, RS, AS, NAB, LV) versus ("For as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the sea-monster"--ML, JB, NEB, NAB) versus ("For as Jonas was in the great fish 3 days and 3 nights"--NI, NWT, TEV, LB, BBE). This conflict bears directly on the accuracy of comments by Jesus since whales are not fish and vice versa.

MARK 1:1 ("The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ"--NI, LB, JB, TEV, NWT) versus ("The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ"--KJ, RS, ML, AS, BBE, NEB, NAB, NAS, LV). The former does not say Jesus wrote the Book of Mark while the latter all but says he did.

MARK 15:39 ("...Truly this man was the son of God"--KJ, RS, NI, AS, NAB, TEV, NAS, LV) versus ("...In truth this man was a son of God"--JB, BBE, NEB). "A" son clearly means there could be other sons of God while "the" son does not.

LUKE 1:27 ("To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph...."--KJ, ML, LB, RS, JB, NI, AS, BBE, NAB, NWT, NAS, LV) versus ("...with a message for a girl betrothed to a man named Joseph...."--NEB, TEV). The latter translation does not support the idea of a virgin birth.

Since: Sep 11

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#641762 Jul 16, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
you really must have some serious woodchuck (demon) problems if you can hate Al for being a Christian! you're about the only person i've ever heard accuse him of such a thing.
props to you, Al, for finally earning some persecution points!;-)
Persecution points? This is really how you think?

Do you feel more righteous each time you get someone to "persecute" (I use that term very generously) you?

Is this a point on your scoreboard?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#641763 Jul 16, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Okay. So do you honestly believe this? An animal - a talking one - convinced Eve to eat a cursed apple, one she knew was cursed, and then got smited into the body of a snake?
I ask again. Do you honestly believe that is what happened?
No, I don't believe that. If the story is literal - in any sense - I believe it was Satan in the guise of an animal and God cursed that animal.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#641764 Jul 16, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Oh, Aero, you are going to love Dave's take on dinosaurs.
I saw.

believe me.

I saw.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#641765 Jul 16, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It actually implies that neolithic peoples weren't up to date with evolutionary theory, and they wanted to explain this mysterious, dangerous, slithering creature.
Wait.. are we talking about serpents, or snakes?
There was no evolutionary theory in Neolithic times.

WTF, dude?

Since: Feb 09

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#641766 Jul 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well....
How many times I gotsta say it before folks listen?
Genesis 3:
3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman,“Did God really say,‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2 The woman said to the serpent,“We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say,‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
It's not about whether or not one believes what it says, it's about one knowing what it says.
You are being dishonest, deceptive and deceitful. You left ouT three key words: FOR IN THE DAY!

"...of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: FOR IN THE DAY that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17), "God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die" (Gen. 3:3), "the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die" (Gen. 3:4), and "all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died" (Gen. 5:5). God said Adam and Eve would die on the day they ate of the tree and the devil said they would not. They ate of it and Adam lived to be 930 years old. In other words, God lied and the devil told the truth.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#641767 Jul 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I read your post about killing them in the house. Brought back a childhood memory. I was about 5 or so when a little grass snake got into the back door into the kitchen. I watched my mother and oldest sister pushing each other off a chair while trying to get away from it. They finally hit it with a hammer. They hollered at me to get out of there but I just stood watching the silliness.
You have a crawlspace under the house? Nice warm space with bugs to eat, and/or mice. Set off some bug bombs. Throw those mothballs under there. Make sure you have flashing at the bottom of any siding you have. Screened vents. Keep the ground cleared for a couple of feet around the house. You might try glue traps tacked where they can get in. Keep a hoe handy in the house. Get a mongoose for a pet.
http://www.snake-removal.com/fencing.html
Marigolds are reputed to discourage snakes, and squash bugs.
I'm all for keeping a hoe handy.

Don't know how that would help with snakes, though.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#641768 Jul 16, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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So easy.... even a "Pri..." uhhh I mean..."Caveman" can do it......
LOL!!! luv ya RR..... you walked right into that one...
lol

shu'up

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#641769 Jul 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I don't believe that. If the story is literal - in any sense - I believe it was Satan in the guise of an animal and God cursed that animal.
He's a shape shifter, huh?

Like on Star Trek?

Since: Feb 09

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#641770 Jul 16, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>if your god predicts the future
can that prediction be wrong?
Christians often assert alleged inspiration of the Bible is proven by accurate prophecies contained therein. Yet, any reasonably objective analysis of the Book will expose many inaccurate predictions.

Generally speaking, prophetic failures can be grouped into three separate categories: Those which were fulfilled in a manner different from that promised, those which have never occurred, and New Testament references to Old Testament prophecies that don't exist.

Besides Jesus' inaccurate predictions with respect to the cock crowing, the attainment of paradise by the thief on the cross, and the similarity in time between His internment and Jonah's period in the whale the following falsehoods could be mentioned.

In Genesis 2:17 God told Adam. Gen. 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Yet, Adam ate the fruit and did not die that day. In fact, he lived to be 930 years old (Gen. 5:5). If a spiritual, as opposed to a physical, death was intended, as apologists allege, then why wouldn't this be true of what Nathan told David in 2 Samual 12:14.

David had sinned against God and Nathan said: 2 Samual 12:14 "Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die." Verse 18 clearly shows that the child died physically, not spiritually, shortly thereafter.[Which also goes against Deut. 24:16.]

Unless the context shows a verse should be given a spiritual interpretation, we should adhere to a literal approach. The well-known apologist W. Arndt aptly stated: "It must be remembered that a deviation from the literal sense is not justified unless the Scriptures themselves prescribe such a course." Bible Difficulties, W. Arndt, p. 133.

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