Prove there's a god.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#637714 Jul 7, 2013
I wrote:
Please, tell me, how does the fact that 'consciousness exists now' "certify" that it did not always exist?
and
Aura Mytha wrote:
Because all the evidence points to it?

What would make you think it did, is there any observation or tangible evidence of it?
You are saying a classic Russell's teapot assertion.
Where is it out there, or how do you know it is?
Because you said so? I'm afraid you will have do better than that.
When the hospitals finish their NDE study and they find people actually saw the hidden picture, I will believe consciousness may exist outside the body. I don't think it does, for one I tried astral projection.

I succeeded and thought I had done it, but what I saw out of body was completely wrong. Which led me to think it is hallucination.
It seemed real but it wasn't, it couldn't have been because what I saw was wrong. But I'm still going to read what the hospitals determine in the study with the hidden picture only a out of body person could see.
I asked you a question. What in your reply addresses that question directly? Anything? There is no evidence on the matter at hand. Try again.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#637715 Jul 7, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
What would bring Buck here? Chanting his name over and over? Perhaps a prayer to the football gods? Or building a shrine to the ID movement?
Hagen used to show up when I did the "Lupus in Fabula" chant. I don't think Bucky knows that one.

Hi, Hiding.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#637716 Jul 7, 2013
Pokay wrote:
<quoted text>and
<quoted text>I asked you a question. What in your reply addresses that question directly? Anything? There is no evidence on the matter at hand. Try again.
The fact you are making a unsupportable claim that cannot be demonstrated simply escapes your ability to reason. There is zero evidence consciousness has ever existed anywhere but in the neural tissues and within the neural networks of living organisms that it is found. Therefore no reason to make conjecture that it does or ever even has, as the only evidence supports that this is exactly where it resides. All you do is create a Russel's teapot out of consciousness.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637717 Jul 7, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
You know nothing about Islam
Religious brainwashing retards intellectual development and you're obviously too retarded to understand that organized religion is a hoax to control the gullible. It's YOU who truly knows NOTHING about Islam, kid.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637718 Jul 7, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
So tell me RR, do you believe God started humanity sometime recently, or just started the process four and a half billion years ago and walked away??
I admire that you're sincerely trying to reason with Riverside Redneck. Unfortunately, this completely brainwashed godbot is mentally retarded and incapable of grasping any irrefutable fact in contradiction to his Christian indoctrination.

He spams this forum on a daily basis with the same definitively wrong statements over and over again. It's best to simply advise him that he doesn't have a personal relationship with his imaginary friend and to seek professional help for his delusions. Responding to his inane posts only feeds his absolutely pathetic need for attention.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637719 Jul 7, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
200,000 year old Homo-sapiens was still very smart and well adapted to his/her environment. He made stone tools and traveled far across Africa. Many of his remains are found in Namibia, South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, and other parts. We know he used ochre, probably for body ornamentation or ritual. Physiologically 200,000 year old Homo-sapiens seemed to be the same as us. Of course they weren't as smart, as they hadn't much experience yet.
Think of being born 200,000 years ago. You would have NO knowledge at all of how the world worked, what plants were good and what was poisonous, which animals were easy to catch and good to eat, no knowledge of germ theory and how to treat yourself if sick, no language to communicate effectively, just grunts and gestures. Of course these early hominids weren't ‘quite’ like us, but they weren't ‘NOT’ us.
Around 50,000 years ago Homo-sapiens seem to get a little smarter as his tool-kit became more sophisticated and his abilities seemed to expand. Many scientists believe this is about the time sapiens developed spoken language, although it is doubtful whether this will ever be proven.
Also around 50,000 to 60,000 years ago humans started traveling outside Africa and began populating Australia, India, Pakistan, the Levant and eventually most of Europe, the UK, the Balkans, and China. In other words; most of Europe and large parts of Asia.
In China, further South, and parts of Mongolia humans probably encountered some Homo-erectus and/or Homo-habilis groups, as these hominid had left Africa many many thousands of years before them.
In Europe, the Levant, and parts of Asia the humans encountered Neanderthals who had also left Africa thousands and thousands of years before. In the Levant is where some cross-breeding with Neanderthals occurred.
The history of humans and 'pre-humans' and the ancient world is rich and varied and extremely interesting to explore. The things our ancestors experienced and conquered are amazing. We went from freshly 'hatched' with little knowledge of anything, to being able to destroy our own birthplace with the pushing of a button.
So tell me RR, do you believe God started humanity sometime recently, or just started the process four and a half billion years ago and walked away??
Thanks for the "history" lesson but all that is pure speculation.

I'll remain skeptical.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637720 Jul 7, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't believe that biology is accurate???
Do you believe you breathe...for fun? What about eating? Do you believe you eat just because?
Are genes not real? Are they fictions, myths told to us by crazed researchers?
Try not eating and see how fictional biology is :) Or, if you get very ill, insist on using prayer only - tell the doctors they are crazy, none of that medicine stuff works, and you'll just pray yourself better.
(I don't recommend that, though, but it will be instructional for you)
No. I don't believe that *your* belief in biology is accurate.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#637721 Jul 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No. I don't believe that *your* belief in biology is accurate.
Hahaha , do you think she "believes" in biology?

Since: Sep 10

United States

#637722 Jul 7, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
What would bring Buck here? Chanting his name over and over? Perhaps a prayer to the football gods? Or building a shrine to the ID movement?
We need to kidnap Peebob.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#637723 Jul 7, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Hey me! My, you look handsome. Let's me and me go out for a little us time, maybe share some beers and nachos! Yum!
I flatter me.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#637724 Jul 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>No. I don't believe that *your* belief in biology is accurate.
It's pretty accurate.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637725 Jul 7, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Hahaha , do you think she "believes" in biology?
Tremendously.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#637726 Jul 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Tremendously.
Do you believe in math?
How about carpentry, do you believe in carpentry.
Laying tile or I believe in plumbing!

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#637727 Jul 7, 2013
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23813-m...

Interesting affliction.

Out of sync speech and hearing.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637728 Jul 7, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
It's pretty accurate.
"Pretty" accurate isn't accurate.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637729 Jul 7, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Do you believe in math?
How about carpentry, do you believe in carpentry.
Laying tile or I believe in plumbing!
When you have a "fact" that's based on some evidence and lots of speculation you have a belief.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#637730 Jul 7, 2013
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23798-h...

Dark matter.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/...

More dark matter.

Physics is saying it is there. You just can't see it.

Six times more dark matter than visible matter.

Imagine that.

Of course, you will not hear one Topix atheist revise their beliefs based upon physics that was based upon observations of visible matter only.

I posted earlier about our consciousnesses collapsing into the other half of our universe's circuitry and metamorphosis.

Don't believe everything an atheist has to say, or the proof they quote.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#637731 Jul 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
When you have a "fact" that's based on some evidence and lots of speculation you have a belief.
I know that's what you have, we were talking about hiding.

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#637732 Jul 7, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Do you believe in math?
How about carpentry, do you believe in carpentry.
Laying tile or I believe in plumbing!
Shew...they brought up Buck...and now evrytime I see your name I think of Aunt Martha and I can't help but laugh....

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#637733 Jul 7, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should do a little research about what's actually going on...9/11 was only a small portion of it. Here's a site that summarizes pretty good...read up!
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/t...
In support of TT, I think it is pretty generally known, and understood, that the USA carries the most weight in the world, regarding international events, and the UN is basically a puppet of the USA. One of our Prime Ministers, too, won a Nobel Peace Prize for the initial work in setting up the UN, and he was the representative for the consistency where I was born and raised, and lived nearly 1/2 of my life.[that info is irrelevant to this discussion, of course].
No offense to Jews or Israel, but I don't think I would take something that they published as an unbiased opinion about world situations.

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