“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#637194 Jul 6, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Psst. Yes it is.
http://www.threestrikes.org/sfchronicle_0.htm...
Shoplifters can be good people. Committing a petty crime does not automatically make you a bad person. There are certain crimes that would certainly disqualify you from the title of "good person," but shoplifting is not one of them. I did not say that *all* shoplifters are just people trying to feed their family, I used a specific (although certainly not unique) example - stealing some food to feed your family in the absence of any other options does not make you a bad person.
Stealing clothes? What are you talking about? I said food.
OMG...you think it's okay to steal food? How about getting a job and buying it? How about going to a local food pantry....there all over the place. How about going to a local church and asking for help...99% will feed a family as long as that said family doesn't abuse the help...like the family did Al.

There is no excuse for stealing and if you start out with simple shoplifting and get a simple slap on the hand, before long you'll be robbing your neighbor next door...because it's a easy something for nothing way of life. You're completely and utterly foolish on this topic.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#637195 Jul 6, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously you do not understand the physiology of Addiction.
I sure do. I'm addicted to nicotine and alcohol. I totally understand it and I understand how difficult it is to break.

I have also made conscious choices NOT to even try drugs like cocaine, weed or speed even once, out of knowledge and fear of possible repercussions.

It isn't my fault that some people are too ignorant or weak to not get hooked on drugs, it's their own fault. There are already countless, FREE, places they can go to get help but they choose not to. They choose a life of crime, addiction and low-income. They got themselves into their own mess.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#637196 Jul 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
So there is you on one side, who believes weed should be outlawed. And then there's Tim who seems to think it should be legal to avoid over criminalizing people.
But neither side is addressing the issue. Bottom line, what is the government and society doing for the neighbourhoods affected by drugs? What are they doing to encourage better choices in the affected communities? What are they doing to ensure good access to a quality education and good recreational activities that can uplift people to not even think about drugs?
There are too many people engaged in a curative mindset. Problem comes, find a solution. It comes again, find another solution. What are you doing to ensure the problem doesn't come again? What are you doing to find out how that problem came about and so not give opportunity for it to come about again? I believe that should be the approach for social ills. A preventative mindset needs to be employed.
As far as drugs go, summary execution of those possessing man made iilicit drugs other than what a user may have on them. You try to rehabilitate the user, you kill the suppliers. Eliminate drugs and scum that way.
waaaz up

Manchester, KY

#637197 Jul 6, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Used to, yes
2. Also, used to.
3. While Christian, I wanted to "get to know" him. Prayed, read the Bible, went to church. Completed Sunday school.
But soon enough, my eyes opened
Your 3rd response, is overwhelming contradictive. Along with #2.

If you felt "conviction" then that means God was making himself known to you, therefore God "something" of a supernatural is real. What was it that was convicting you , you suppose?

While Christian? Ill just make this short,and ask you what your defintion is of "how" one becomes a Christian??



Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#637198 Jul 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
The unfortunate fact is that respect just doesn't appeal to some people. So the only other thing to get them in line, is fear.
When I watch on TV those prisons in Thailand, that is what a prison should be like. Dirty concentration camps, prisoners eat worms and other slop. If they behave well, they get to eat apples. Not some holiday resort with warm beds, a TV, and gay prostitutes circulating about.
It's become so absurd, that even on TV in some adverts where the government appeals to the public to behave, they show the gangster prisoners that you may end up with. Its like the main thing to fear in prison, are the other prisoners. If you're a certified badass at the top of the prison food chain, you have nothing to fear.
And yet, crime and corruption run rampant in thailand. Deterrents do not work.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637199 Jul 6, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Dude.. yes, they are allowed some basic comforts. There is nothing wrong with prisoners being allowed access to things that entertain them/stimulate their mind/keep them occupied, if only because giving them things to do probably helps with keeping the peace. Human beings tend to get a little loopy when we have nothing to do.
Aside from these basic amenities, prisons are certainly not "cushy." There is nothing cushy about being completely separated from society for years at a time and having your freedom completely taken away from you. There is a middle ground in between summer camp and a gulag.
Side note - you really think we should turn our prisons into sweat boxes? What's your problem with air conditioning?
And the time out thing... analogies were never your strong suite.
Ya right. Ever been to jail, timn? I have, one time for four days. I saw firsthand how well the inmates are treated, the food wasn't the "prison slop" you see on TV, we watched free cable TV on a huge TV, we played board games, dudes sept for 12 hours a day, they were smoking weed and jerkin off to porn mags (I really have NO idea how they got that shot smuggled in there).

It was sort of like a weekend retreat, except you can't leave. I saw how the criminal mind is perfectly ok living in places like that and why there's so many repeat offenders out there.

In construction I worked with three hardcore convicts, one of them just got out after serving 8 years. They were scumbags. They had a great job, a place to live, a way to get out of their old, criminal life but ALL THREE chose not to. After just a few months, they all went back to their old, criminal ways and got sent back to prison. One of them stole a car, one damn near raped a girl and thankfully got caught and the third went back to using and selling speed.

It seems that most of them are hopeless wrecks that do NOT fear imprisonment. Because the "prison life is easier than real life", one of them told me.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637200 Jul 6, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
RR, you dodged addressing this lie:
<quoted text>Why lie?
"Revelations" is in the bible ...right? YES!
"And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, "Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns"
(Revelation 19:6).
When the Bible speaks of God, it speaks of Him as being omnipotent (all powerful).
The word omnipotent comes from two Latin words, omnis, meaning all, and potens which means power.
Looks like the word "omnipotent" is used in the bible to me!
As I've stated many, MANY times. Atheists just looooove the KJV Bible. It's a medieval translation made BY medieval minds FOR medieval minds.

Revelation 19:6
New International Version (NIV)

Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:

“Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns."

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637201 Jul 6, 2013
timn17 wrote:

Shoplifters can be good people. Committing a petty crime does not automatically make you a bad person.
Ugh... Ok, just stop. You're burning my eyes.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637202 Jul 6, 2013
timn17 wrote:
Do you think that crackheads are worried about breaking the law in the first place? They aren't. The last thing an addict is thinking about is the legality of their drug of choice. That's the point - harsh deterrents don't work,*especially* when it comes to drugs.
That's EXACTLY my point! They don't care about going to jail, most repeat criminals don't.

Why?

Because today's prison system is NOT a harsh punishment.

One guy I worked with, a former inmate and repeat offender, once told me "prison ain't so bad. You can get everything in there that you can out here, except p_ssy."

O_o

He even said that the drugs in prison are better than the drugs on the street.

WTF?

WHY are we allowing them access to drugs?!? They are in prison and CAN be easily controlled but smooth-talking, tongue-wielding liberals like you WANT inmates, criminals, to feel "comfortable" because "they have rights, too".

It is PEOPLE LIKE YOU that create repeat offenders.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#637203 Jul 6, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. Really hope you're joking.
Yes, I was joking on the noose thing. I don't believe that folks should be executed because of an addiction, but I DO believe folks should be harshly punished for breaking the law.
waaaz up

Manchester, KY

#637204 Jul 6, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Have I been attending a 'God Fearing Church?' I can't say that I have, because I don't believe there is a God and that would be kind of silly.
My point exctly. Do you "see" what your delima is?
I remember when I was about 12 years old being taken to a Church (in Kentucky by the way) where they talked funny and rolled around on the floor....scared the hell out of me (no pun intended), and I never went back to any church until I was about 30. And yeah, the preacher was preaching with 'power and conviction.'
LOl,, yes they have alot of Holiness, pentacostle, denominations around here.. I am not in agreement with those, but thats another story..

Read my response to DF.. What is "conviction"? Who and what was convicting "you" in your soul, heart and mind??
Am I seeking God, "only" to prove he exist, so that I can satisfy my curiosity, rather than asking him to save my soul, by repenting of my sinful nature?
This is a hard question….mainly because I actively hunted for information to prove God in the early years and could find nothing. Now there’s the internet and researching anything is ridiculously easy and after maybe 6 or 7 years searching on the web I still find no proof.
I grew up on the science side of the argument so I tend to look for ‘real’ measurable proofs and I find none. And now I find science is disproving much of the Bible and I fear that this is going to further count as proof against any kind of God.
“Repenting of my Sinful Nature” For one thing I don’t have a ‘Sinful Nature’, and for another there was NO Adam and Eve, so there was no ‘Original Sin’ That was all a concoction of Paul and Irenaeus in the first and second century AD…well after Jesus died.
What is your motive for coming on this forum?
For argument sakes. Lets say that, what the Bible says about God/Jesus is real. The way you have attempted to come to know God, "is not" what God ask of you, and certainly isn"t what the Bible tells us either.

You say you have "no sinful nature"? Again lets say the Ten Commandments are real binding commandments of God..

Have you ever once broken one of those, are you guilty of any one of them? If you have broken just one of them then you are guilty of sin, in the eyes of God.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637205 Jul 6, 2013
Delusional Dave Nelson wrote:
Pomona, imaginary friends are better than...
Adults with imaginary friends are insane and should be institutionalized. You should seek professional help for your delusions immediately.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637206 Jul 6, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
Thanx for your definition. Actually it wasnt but nice try at least.
I did but you're obviously too retarded to understand the modern definition of "god".

The myth you call "god" is the essential element of intelligently designed dogma based indoctrination systems to control death denying cowards like you.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#637207 Jul 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
People say it all the time that this is allowed and that is allowed. They just say it in some feeble attempt to support their case. It doesn't make it true. No where in the entire Quran does it allow or encourage one to kill anyone who disgraces him, and no where in the actions of Muhammed is that found either. Where is your proof that others have praised him? And do you want each of us to publicly denounced this man? I haven't even heard of him before.
That is the most ridiculous thing that westerners expect from Muslims. They expect all 1.5 billion of us to forever be standing up and publicly denouncing every single Muslim criminal in the world. And if we don't do that, then you simply believe what the criminal has to say about Islam.
We have our own lives to lead. We can't be going on marches every time some criminal commits a crime. No society in the world does that. We do not expect the entire U.S. to go on marches and publicly denounce everytime some American commits a crime. So why do you expect that from us?
Yes, I know that to be true, TT, however, and it is likely American-controlled anti-Islam propaganda, but we seem to hear of major Imams and other top Muslim figures endorsing acts that to any sane human being are barbaric.

I suspect that the Muslim man who murdered his wife and daughter in Canada, would not be known in the world, because Canada does not get much coverage in world press, because we are a small population of people.

This man, though, and the others involved, including those who were killed, would have passed within a few hundred metres of where I live (my building can be seen from the highway they would have been on - they were murdered in the city where my son lived for 9 years while getting his medical degree and then doing 5 years of internship), as they allegedly had traveled in two vehicles to Niagara Falls, and on the return trip, the women in the one car were murdered and their car pushed into a canal, where someone discovered it not too many hours after, although the killers had returned to their home in another city.

I don't expect every Muslim to speak out, as naturally the majority would never hear these stories, but it would be nice if some major Muslims, at least in the country where that happened, had made some major denouncement of the actions of these people.

It really doesn't matter to me what Allah or the Quran state, because I don't believe in either of them anyway, but I am aware that there are a lot of Muslims in the world, and they are becoming increasingly in support of some of the atrocities committed by the few idiots. I do understand, though, that is partly due to the heavy handed way the USA responds to the atrocities.

My wife and I share one plot (of 30) in a community garden in our city, of which the majority of the people using that garden are Muslims, and those we have chatted with are very nice people. I don't have any issues with Muslims other than the whole concept and what Islam is doing to the world. I could say the same about what Christianity is doing, but I would have to be going back a century or two, because Christianity is rapidly declining and it is not overtly doing anything, other than the stupid pronouncements of the Popes (who I have no respect or tolerance for at all).
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637208 Jul 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
the persona you post, is the most self-centered I have ever seen. it is a caricature
I disagree, Karl.

The god delusion leads to extreme narcissism when brainwashed godbots sincerely believe they are so important to have a personal relationship with their imaginary father figure in the sky.

The retarded and revolting Riverside Redneck is one of those sociopathic and narcissistic godbots to believe he has a personal relationship with his entirely imaginary friend.

Not surprisingly, he spams this forum with a plethora of definitively wrong statements on a daily basis and lacks the capacity to accept irrefutable facts in contradiction to his Christian brainwashing.

He's unquestionably one of the most psychologically disturbed godbots to ever post in this forum and should be institutionalized immediately.

I'd encourage you and everyone else to cease giving this stark raving mad insane lunatic the attention he so desperately craves.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637209 Jul 6, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
God say...
No mythical character from any fictional book has ever uttered a single damn word. You're making a complete as of yourself on an international forums with your willful ignorance of science and personal delusions. Grow up, kid!

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#637210 Jul 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ugh... Ok, just stop. You're burning my eyes.
Yeah...mine too! What in the world is he thinking? Apparently, Timn has never worked hard for something only to have a "petty thief" steal it from him, sell it and buy drugs. I have...and as far as I'm concerned, that petty theif is just as bad as a bank robber, because he took something that didn't belong to him...something I worked to pay for.
Myth Buster

Phoenix, AZ

#637211 Jul 6, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
unfortunately its Religion that makes good people do Evil

youll never see atheist preaching hate like religionists do

www.evilbible.com
www.thereligionofpeace.com
Two great websites that all Christian and Muslim godbots should visit.

Since: May 12

Ghana

#637212 Jul 6, 2013
Hehe i never there is modern definition of god.
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
I did but you're obviously too retarded to understand the modern definition of "god".
The myth you call "god" is the essential element of intelligently designed dogma based indoctrination systems to control death denying cowards like you.

“Ahoyhoy all!”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#637213 Jul 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your definition of God?
The theist god, ie a creating, intervening entity who cares about what we do and the way we live our lives.

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