waaaz up

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#636668 Jul 4, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Good morning, lovey. I am so glad you responded.:-)
First off, the arguments the atheists on here are the same ones I based my athesim on 50 years ago. Not a thing new has been added since then. However, there have been advances on the theistic/supernatural side supported by science. The BBT being a seed that sprouted for one.
But that isn't what I wanted to talk about. Let's talk NDEs again.
The Topix atheist invariably states emphatically that they are just the release of chemicals in the brain creating a false "reality". Interesting that these releases can produce such seemingly coherent scenarios just from chemical releases.
But let's assume such is correct. Consciousness, and thus perception of reality is pure chemical reactions.
You look lovely this morning, lovey. Let me nibble on your ear, let me hug you, you are so luscious and soft and desireable. Irresistable.
That would get some chemicals released in you in another setting than this. Your reality would change. The power of words to release chemicals in the brain to suit ones desires.
You live in a world full of words. A constant bombardment of them. Some you tune into and some you tune out. What is real and what isn't, lovey? What makes you believe you are really rational and able to decide what is real and what isn't, such as a supernatural force responsible for your existence?
WTF is the difference from a whack on the head and listening to others?
Baaaamm,, there you have it folks!

Read it, and weep....

Well said!

“It's all about the struggle”

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#636669 Jul 4, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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No time, no space. Only energy. No gravity
Even IF the universe was created by a quantum fluctuation, there had to be some "thing" that was putting immense pressure...

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_const...

...on it to scramble what scientists have described as a highly ordered, initial state, IOWs, the big burp was a reaction to something that already existed.

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#636670 Jul 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:

define "darkness"
Dumb atheist.

Darkness: the partial or total absence of light.

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#636671 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't know and I'm not interested in your addiction to leprechauns.
Unicorns, vampires, fairies, etc. Doesn't matter. Wouldn't it feel surreal to you if the average person believed in a secret god unicorn in a cave?

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#636672 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Scientific apologetics?
No.

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#636673 Jul 4, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Perhaps it should say, "in nothing we trust"....or maybe just..."we don't trust". Would that be suitable?
Perhaps it shouldn't say anything religious at all? Or do you agree that the majority religion should impose it's will on everyone else?

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#636674 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nah...
I dunno about timn, but for the "humanist", it would say "In Me We Trust".
Humanism is not about egocentrism. It's basically about affirming and upholding human rights for everyone.

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#636675 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You would like it better if the small child died, too?!
I would like it better if people didn't die brutal deaths. Impossible, I know, but that's the point. It shouldn't happen under the tenure of a loving god. I would also like it if religious people didn't call it a miracle when 1000 people die but some lucky person survives. It's nice for the survivor, I guess.
waaaz up

Manchester, KY

#636676 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You spent a really long time to set up this apologist nonsense.
Well, atleast he takes time...

You just blurt it out.

“I speak my mind”

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It hurts to bite my tongue

#636677 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Therefore god.
Once again, you said that...not me.

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#636678 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Crime is rampant because of people like you - that are soft on criminals.
Criminals feed off of the "understanding" of society.
Some countries have the death penalty for possession. If your hypothesis was correct, drugs wouldn't exist in those countries. Deterrents do nothing.

And we as a society are not at all soft on crime. Most of us believe in retributive justice, and we have ridiculously harsh penalties for stupid things like drugs. Yet we abuse drugs at a higher rate than pretty much the entire world.

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#636679 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, ya, ya.... You softie liberals have been trying that for several decades.
And the crime rates skyrocket.
Coincidence?
What in the world are you talking about? Crime rates are down, first of all, and there has never been even a correlation between harsher punishments and less crime. You're deluding yourself. The war on drugs is the easiest example. For the past 30 years, and especially during the crack epidemic, we doled out absurd punishments for things like simple possession. Did drug crime go down? No. Billions of dollars and many, many ruined lives later.

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#636680 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Unicorns, vampires, fairies, etc. Doesn't matter. Wouldn't it feel surreal to you if the average person believed in a secret god unicorn in a cave?
No.

Even if it did, I wouldn't waste my time arguing with them.

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#636681 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No.
Seems like it.

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#636682 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps it shouldn't say anything religious at all? Or do you agree that the majority religion should impose it's will on everyone else?
What's wrong with that? Seriously, if 95% of the people believe in a god, why not have it on the currency?

Why should 95% cater to the 5% and lose out?

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#636683 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Humanism is not about egocentrism. It's basically about affirming and upholding human rights for everyone.
Bullshit. The humanists' primary importance is to the self. "In Me I Trust" would swoon them fantastically.

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#636684 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I would like it better if people didn't die brutal deaths. Impossible, I know, but that's the point. It shouldn't happen under the tenure of a loving god. I would also like it if religious people didn't call it a miracle when 1000 people die but some lucky person survives. It's nice for the survivor, I guess.
Ever seen Bruce Almighty? Remember the part where he answered YES to all prayers? Remember the chaos that ensued?

I know it's just a movie, but that's what would happen.

1,000 people will die no matter what, God chooses not to intervene on us, He gives us free will to make our choices and destiny.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#636685 Jul 4, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Where's the love Aura? Where'd it go huh?
I'm still here, myths all gone.

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#636686 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Some countries have the death penalty for possession. If your hypothesis was correct, drugs wouldn't exist in those countries. Deterrents do nothing.
And we as a society are not at all soft on crime. Most of us believe in retributive justice, and we have ridiculously harsh penalties for stupid things like drugs. Yet we abuse drugs at a higher rate than pretty much the entire world.
That's exactly my point. Drugs, crime, etc wasn't so bad until you liberals started imposing all the social understanding and compassion towards criminals.

Crime deserves harsh punishment. Period.

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#636687 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What in the world are you talking about? Crime rates are down, first of all, and there has never been even a correlation between harsher punishments and less crime. You're deluding yourself. The war on drugs is the easiest example. For the past 30 years, and especially during the crack epidemic, we doled out absurd punishments for things like simple possession. Did drug crime go down? No. Billions of dollars and many, many ruined lives later.
That's right, I forgot. Crackheads are crackheads because of the punishments...

You dumb ass liberals make me sick.

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