Prove there's a god.

“Ditat Deus”

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#636851 Jul 5, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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The unfortunate fact is that respect just doesn't appeal to some people. So the only other thing to get them in line, is fear.
When I watch on TV those prisons in Thailand, that is what a prison should be like. Dirty concentration camps, prisoners eat worms and other slop. If they behave well, they get to eat apples. Not some holiday resort with warm beds, a TV, and gay prostitutes circulating about.
It's become so absurd, that even on TV in some adverts where the government appeals to the public to behave, they show the gangster prisoners that you may end up with. Its like the main thing to fear in prison, are the other prisoners. If you're a certified badass at the top of the prison food chain, you have nothing to fear.
Ya, how's about that for punishment?

“Ditat Deus”

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#636852 Jul 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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Before, when you claimed you weren't in california,
BZZZZT

I never said I don't live in California.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#636853 Jul 5, 2013
Ahoyhoy wrote:
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Some interesting questions...to which I have a few to add....
1. How do you reconcile the commandment 'thou shall not kill' with the old testament mandate to slaughter the amalecites and midionites?
2. Why do the 10 commandments not include rape? abuse of children? genocide? but do include thought crimes such as coveting?
3. If religion is the basis for morality as Christians believe, on what basis did the good samaritan (himself not a Christian) decide to offer his support to a fellow human being? If indeed people can act morally without religion, why do we need religion?
4. The Bible states that Jesus would return in the lifetime of his disciples (Matt 16:28)....why did he decide not to do so?
5. In what sense is vicarious culpability down through generations (for the misdemeanors of Adam and Eve and the crucifixion of Jesus) a moral preaching? Why should I accept culpability for the crucifixion of an eccentric preacher in Bronze-age Palestine?
6. The Sanhedrin, the only people who we know did meet Jesus AND recorded their views in writing during his lifetime, concluded that Jesus was bogus. Why do you choose to ignore their views when, historically, they are the most reliable witnesses we know of?
7. Where is Mount Sinai? Israeli archaeologists have repeatedly failed to locate it and have concluded that it was mythical - despite their vested interest in verifying its existence.
8. If we are what it's all about, why create the other thirty billion observable galaxies and estimated 7 to the power of 600 planets?
9. If we have free will, am I able to opt out of god's plan by choosing to go to neither heaven nor hell but to simply cease to exist. If the answer is no, to what extent do I therefore have free will?
10. If God is good, why ask Abraham to slaughter his own son to prove his belief in God?
Well I'm not Christian, but I can have a shot a few questions:

7. Mount Sinai is in Egypt. Sinai Peninsula
8. To show off.
9. Free will has its limits. That is true whether you believe in a god or not.
10. It was to demonstrate to humanity what absolute obedience to God is all about.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#636854 Jul 5, 2013
Mythic Idiot wrote:

Until the inevitable international ban on religious brainwashing, blah, blah, blah
HA HA HA!!!!

Don't wait up.

Since: May 12

Ghana

#636855 Jul 5, 2013
No, you are responsible for it. almighty Allah puts a good system for the world; it is as system that guarantees its happiness and balance. it is a system in which the strong is to help the weak, the rich to aid the poor. Allah warns against following desires, committing oppressions and transgressing boundaries and rights. Allah promises the goodness of the present life and the hereafter to the ones who adheres to this system:“whoever works righteousness, whether male or female, while he (or she) is a true believer (of Islamic monotheism) verily, to him we will give a good life (in this world with respect, contentment and lawful provision), and we shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do (i.e. paradise in the hereafter).”(an-nahl: 97) so, if people violate the boundaries, cut what Allah ordered them to link, cooperate to do evil instead of goodness, then how come they complain about harvesting what they planted? most of the evils surrounding the world are due to going astray and not following the right path. almighty Allah says in the qur’an:“whosoever desires (with his deeds) the reward of the hereafter, we give him increase in his reward, and whosoever desires the reward of this world (with his deeds), we give him thereof (what is written for him), and he has no portion in the hereafter. and whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. and he pardons much.”(ash-shura: 30)
Double Fine wrote:
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Okay cool.
So your god wants you to have sone back door action, otherwise you lead an incomplete life. You best start going at it?
Double Fine will respectfully decline

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#636856 Jul 5, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
The mindless followers of barbaric religious cults, such as you and the equally retarded and revolting Riverside Redneck, are responsible for most of the evil in the world.
I know I'm not going to get an answer, but what "evil in the world" am I responsible for?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#636857 Jul 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
but it was
indeed true that it was that plummet that got you
unemployed,
I never said I was unemployed. I have been employed since I was 15 1/2.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#636859 Jul 5, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I thought it was funny that Mr. Deity was, basically, blaming his girlfriend Lucy (short for Lucifer) for thinking up the concept of circumcision.
Yea, I do remember the mention of "the tip". But wait, I thought the girl was looking for Beelsabub at the start of the video. Aren't Beelsabub and Lucy one and the same?

I'm glad I'm circumcised; so I can thank Lucy for that?:)

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

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#636861 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
Thank you for your statements.First of all i dont know where you got the idea that noah was drunkard. God destroyed the people of noah because they were transgressors. We know from scriptures that God Punished the human race swiftly in the past.
"Has there not reached them the news of those before them - the people of Noah and [the tribes of]'Aad and Thamud and the people of Abraham and the companions of Madyan and the towns overturned? Their messengers came to them with clear proofs. And Allah would never have wronged them, but they were wronging themselves." 9:70
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Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken, and he was uncovered within his tent. 22: And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23: And Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father, and their faces were backward and they saw not their fathers nakedness. 24: And Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25:And he said, Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall be he unto his brethren.

What a crock. He was drunk and blamed his youngest son for walking into the tent and seeing his drunken ass? That's bible justice for you. Blame the victim.

He was a drunk.....Don't you read the bible?

“Ahoyhoy all!”

Since: Apr 11

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#636862 Jul 5, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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Well I'm not Christian, but I can have a shot a few questions:
7. Mount Sinai is in Egypt. Sinai Peninsula
8. To show off.
9. Free will has its limits. That is true whether you believe in a god or not.
10. It was to demonstrate to humanity what absolute obedience to God is all about.
7. Yes, but where's the mountain?
8. Sounds a bit insecure this god?
9. So let's not call it free will. Let's call it what it is...unsolicited inclusion in a divine game. I feel sorry for those people who choose to commit suicide. Not only did they not ask to live, but they end up living lives so intolerable that they end it all and...finally end up in hell. Great thing this free will eh?
10....and what of the emotional impact on Abraham's son to have his father wield a knife to him? Presumably that was all in God's plan? If so, he sounds like a right twat...

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#636863 Jul 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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So if you were never unemployed, how did you stop being a construction worker, then not long afterwards, a salesman?
Hi Line :)

Hey what is your agenda? How come you post here?

Just curious to know.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#636864 Jul 5, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
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You can invent your own terminology for god and eternal life. There's no scientific evidence in support of such inane delusions. Cowardice is attempting to create your own reality to fit your personal delusions.
If you would bother to pay attention (this is where usually you stop reading) you'd know I said I am not creating a reality to suit my needs or desires because I would rather believe the opposite of what I believe. I'd rather cease to exist than have to deal with eternity. Why should I care what the true nature of reality is when I cannot do anything about it? It is what it is, just like you are incapable of paying attention and opening your mind to anything. You however allow yourself to be duped by science the same way the religious allow religion to dupe them. Anyone ever hear of 'middle of the road' around here?

Since: May 12

Accra, Ghana

#636865 Jul 5, 2013
I am not a christian. I am a muslim. Read about islam it may take you from the darkness to the light. May god enlighten you.
sweets2360 wrote:
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Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken, and he was uncovered within his tent. 22: And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23: And Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father, and their faces were backward and they saw not their fathers nakedness. 24: And Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25:And he said, Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall be he unto his brethren.
What a crock. He was drunk and blamed his youngest son for walking into the tent and seeing his drunken ass? That's bible justice for you. Blame the victim.
He was a drunk.....Don't you read the bible?

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#636866 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
I am not a christian. I am a muslim. Read about islam it may take you from the darkness to the light. May god enlighten you.
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They're stupid and ignorant. They like to assume everyone who's opposed to them is Christian because Christians are all they're really against it seems. Or maybe because it's the only religion they know about. But I'd like to see them try to do away with Mohammad's gods so I can see their atheists asses get their arse's kicked.

“Ahoyhoy all!”

Since: Apr 11

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#636868 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
I am not a christian. I am a muslim. Read about islam it may take you from the darkness to the light. May god enlighten you.
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Islam is a crude plagiarism of the Jewish faith expounded by an illiterate epileptic preacher called Mohammed. Its belief requires the suspension of reason to the extent that the most naive child would struggle to command. Islam sits alongside Scientology and Heavens Gate as one of the least credible religion. Oh, and Jin don't really exist and Mohammed didn't fly to Miraj on a flying donkey. It simply didn't happen. Your belief system is bogus and you are wasting your life.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#636869 Jul 5, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Okay.
But how about on the surface of Mercury and Venus, would you go as far as to say it is conscious? The acidic mess of a surface that Venus has, where no life can ever be sustained, would you say it is possible for it to be conscious?
How about molecules found on Charon the moon of Pluto (granted, it is a gloried chunk of rock in space). Would individual molecules/atoms have consciousness?
That's the whole point. I cannot go as far as to say such things. I told you that I am atheist regarding that idea; I have no belief on it. MAYBE molecules possess some ASPECT of consciousness, which would be DIFFERENT than possessing the SUM of the qualities of consciousness that we ASSOCIATE with sentient life.

POint is it doesn't matter what anyone believes; still, NO ONE can say that science is allowed to claim that it is more probable that consciousness came into existence rather than always being in existence. Why is that so hard to understand?
No time, no space. Only energy. No gravity
And you know this, because you were there, at the BB, observing it? You have no clue as to the nature/structure of existence at the current time, so how can you assume to know anything about it 14 billion years ago? You may as well believe in Yahweh.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#636870 Jul 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:

You're the one duped my friend, you say say you don't even know what it is ,but make broad sweeping claims about it.
And it is a fact you don't have to know anything to make claims.
You do it over and over again. Of course we know what the simplest life forms are, there is a *exact criteria to the definition of life. It simply has to meet those definitions, and the simplest forms of life existed billions of years before complex life did.

I realized before you have only a philosophical reasoning of things. You also try to elevate certain things out of bounds, but you can't do that. Just because YOU don't understand these things doesn't mean there aren't people who do understand them.
Hopefully you will come to realize that eventually.
*I* make broad sweeping claims about it? You're a lying turd. I am the one saying that we know nothing tangible about it. I *believe* things about while you claim to *know* things about it. Who's the whackjob here? I don't care what you say, there's no way that science can say that there is a higher probability that awareness came into existence rather than always being in existence. I don't mind typing that over and over ad over while you purposely ignore what I am saying. I'm not typing it for you; I already know you are duped beyond repair.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#636872 Jul 5, 2013
Ahoyhoy wrote:
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7. Yes, but where's the mountain?
8. Sounds a bit insecure this god?
9. So let's not call it free will. Let's call it what it is...unsolicited inclusion in a divine game. I feel sorry for those people who choose to commit suicide. Not only did they not ask to live, but they end up living lives so intolerable that they end it all and...finally end up in hell. Great thing this free will eh?
10....and what of the emotional impact on Abraham's son to have his father wield a knife to him? Presumably that was all in God's plan? If so, he sounds like a right twat...
7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Sinai
It's not that big. But there are much smaller mountains. In hebrew and arabic, there is just one word "jabal". It can refer to anything from a hill 2 storeys high to a huge mountain.

8. I wouldn't think so. I cannot profess to know how God feels.

9. It depends on circumstances. For some, it is depression, a psychological illness that makes them suicidal. For others, it is simple attention seeking. For others, it is a seriously intolerable life. God will judge each persons case.

10. I'm not sure of the Biblical narrative, but the Islamic version of it is that Abraham's son was just as enthusiastic to obey God's command. The story is quite highly celebrated in Islam, with aspects of it observed during the Hajj.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#636873 Jul 5, 2013
timn17 wrote:
How would we make consciousness a tangible thing? By creating it ourselves? By understanding it? Why are we not allowed to assume anything about it until we make it "tangible?"
Usually one cannot assume that something came into existence when we haven't a clue. You can interpret science anyway you want, it's too bad you are corrupting it by giving it your own meaning. And I get accused of creating reality. You people are creating your own interpretations of the science that exists and the science that exists is not able to even approach the nature of consciousness/awareness, yet you claim it does.
Must we discover the graviton and invent artificial gravity before we can assume that gravity has something to do with mass?
Yeah maybe so. We cannot assume that mass causes gravity until we know it does. You can believe it does but you can't claim it as the most probable scenario until you know what it is. It is ASSOCIATED but who knows what the whole deal is? Inasmuch as gravity is associated with mass it has 'that' to do with it, but that is only an association. But that does not help in assuming a cause.
I think it's a safe assumption that consciousness is an emergent property of life. Not definite by any means, but reasonable.
Yea that's a reasonable statement, but not any more reasonable than saying it was always in existence; we just have no evidence to make it lean one way or the other. I don't get how you can't understand that.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#636874 Jul 5, 2013
Ahoyhoy wrote:
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Islam is a crude plagiarism of the Jewish faith expounded by an illiterate epileptic preacher called Mohammed. Its belief requires the suspension of reason to the extent that the most naive child would struggle to command. Islam sits alongside Scientology and Heavens Gate as one of the least credible religion. Oh, and Jin don't really exist and Mohammed didn't fly to Miraj on a flying donkey. It simply didn't happen. Your belief system is bogus and you are wasting your life.
Evidently you did not read the Quran or do any objective study of Islam for that matter.

You seem like a gnostic atheist. How do you know jin do not exist? How do you know Muhammed did not go on the journey of Meraj? You are asserting such claims. The one who asserts the claim must prove the claim.

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