Prove there's a god.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#636828 Jul 5, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, honestly I never, ever drive after drinking alcohol. Ever. But if I did, the penalty should be very harsh. It's been said that a lot of criminals are "by chance" criminals, meaning that they don't plan to do harm, they are just illegally opportunistic. If the punishment was extreme and harsh, a lot of these petty crimes wouldn't happen.
And if I were to be tossed into tha cold, dark dungeon there'd better be no chance of any sex. Keep the inmates away from each other and actually police them while in prison.
Lol, who's Vogon? Is he/she that bad?
Lol I am unable to put in a link... But youtube "Vogon Poetry". Forget the death penalty. Double Fine would rather be hanged up by the nuts and left to dry.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#636829 Jul 5, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely! I'm not trying to imply otherwise. I'm not saying atheists don't have the right to be atheists, everyone has the right to do what they want in their lives.
If your hypothetical was correct, and I was the only white christian guy in a country full of black muslims, what right would I have to try to force the black Muslims to take down their religious symbols because it disagrees with my beliefs?
Point taken. If they put up religious symboks all over the place, then youbare in a country where your religion will probably not be tolerated.

Take SA. Official figures state then we are Christian and Muslim, but the truth is, most of the population (ethnic blacks like Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Sotho) pray to ancestor spirits, see witch doctors, generally,.live by a whole set of different rules.

Yet, prayer is not done in parlement. Instead, opportunity is given for silent prayer and meditation. No religious interference is allowed in state. Religious holidays were removed, or renamed.

That means, if you are Muslim, you will not have to celebrate the day the Christians believe Jesus to have ascended. If you are Christian, you do not have to commmorate in Eid. Thank your lucky stars. You would go hungry

Since: May 12

Accra, Ghana

#636830 Jul 5, 2013
Thank you for asking these questions. i will tell you – in detail – about the evils you complain about. these pains are divided into two sections: one is destined by Allah to occur in the present life, it is part of it and the message of the human is not complete without experiencing theses pains and tests. it is as abbas al aqad explained:“a solidarity between the parts of the universe, as there is no meaning of bravery without danger, no generosity without need, no patience without hardships and no virtue without vice that opposes and illustrates it ..“this can be applied on our sensual pleasures, and on our psychological and intellectual needs. we do not know the pleasure of being full unless we endure hunger, we do not feel sodden unless we experience thirst. we would not enjoy a beautiful scene unless it is in our nature to be disturbed by an ugly one”.. this explanation of the nature of the present life also includes the fact that almighty Allah tests each person of what concords with his nature and what agrees with his personality and environment. people vary to a great degree; a person might scream complaining of what might not bother another at all. Allah has a divine reason for putting his creations into such adversities. what is important is that the incidents of the private and public life is ruled according to a comprehensive frame of doubtless divine justice. the second section of evils that you complain about is your fault and the fault of devious people like you.
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Few questions.
1) Your god is present everywhere? How about in excrement? On the inside of a used condom? How about in beer?
2) Why could your god, the oh-so-holy designer not design us a better waste removal system that makes it necessary for us to urinate or have bowel movements? Does your god have some sort of fetish?
3) He designed our galaxy with a giant, supermassive black hole in the centre. That is like building your house next to a volcano
4) Explain vestigal organs. Did god no longer know what to put in is, so he chucked all kinds of crap inside us?
5) Flies. Why did he make them
6) Ditto mosquitos. Could he not make a world without them?
7) Why is the male G-spot (assuming you know what that is) located inside the anus? Does your god want us to have some backdoor fun?
8) Why did your god make so many planets in the solar system, and able to create life on only one?
9) Why did your god make us have acne during our formative years? Does he not know that it destroys the self-image of a teenager?
10) Diseases. Does your god like them? He sure did a giod job of making them, eh?
Myth Buster

Prescott Valley, AZ

#636831 Jul 5, 2013
Dianne Matthews wrote:
Well AD means after the death of Christ. So why would our whole date system be after something that does not exist. That's just stupid.
It's completely asinine and will someday be changed.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636832 Jul 5, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
<quoted text>
Riverside Redneck, you claimed you were in the past a construction worker(Before you twisted your previous story, you claimed that it was your current job), and then are currently a salesman.
Riverside Redneck, it is unlikely that someone would quit being a construction worker then become a salesman.
We know you have neither jobs.
Do you know anything about the construction industry in California and how it plummeted in 2008?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636833 Jul 5, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
RR, you ever done any of those? C'mon. I know you have had a spliffie or two ;)
lol, I don't even know what a spliffie is....

The only illegal drugs I've ever done is weed, and just a few times. I didn't like it at all. Other than that, nuttin. I've never even seen any other kinds of drugs.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#636834 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
God is the all-powerful Creator of a perfect, ordered universe. He is transcendent and not a part of his creation. God is One with no son or partner. He is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. He
perfected every created thing. He is the All-Knowing of everything visible or invisible in the whole universe and His knowledge comprehends all things.He accomplished all affairs with wisdom. He is the Most Gracious and the Most Merciful whose mercy encompasses all things. He is the Powerful and the Exalted in Might and no one shares His domain and power. He is just in all His decrees and far removed from injustice and tyranny. God is Ever Living. He is above the seven heavens, above His throne in the manner that suits His majesty. He is the First before whom there is none and the Last after whom there is none and the Most High above whom there is none and the Internal nearer than whom there is none. God neither begets nor is He begotten and there is none like unto Him. He is the All-Hearing All-Seeing and none equal to Him. He hears and sees us. God never indwells in any of His creatures nor do they
indwell in Him. All His creatures stand in need of Him and He stands in need of none. God loves good deeds and hates bad deeds. Creation, sovereignty and authority belong exclusively to Him nor that he remains aloof in some distant heaven. Quite the contrary, He is present everywhere.
It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.(Qur'an 50:16)
<quoted text>
So he perfected us. Wow, what a failure. He did such a dismal job in the first place, he decided to wipe the slate clean and start over, thus the "flood". But if he were going to produce a perfect specimen the second time around, why did he let the drunk Noah, be the starter of the second generation? Epic fail. "If it doesn`t make sense, it isn`t true" Judge Judy.

If I wanted to start from scratch and make a better mouse trap, I wouldn`t start with the old, ineffective mousetrap as a guide. Get real.
Myth Buster

Prescott Valley, AZ

#636835 Jul 5, 2013
Forum wrote:
Children are just people. They know what is right. Why would they determine anything? They need to enjoy their childhood.
Children are easily manipulated and the religious brainwashing of children is clearly child abuse. Society needs to protect children from preying religious cults and willfully ignorant self-righteous bigoted godbots like you would have theirs brainwashed.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636836 Jul 5, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol I am unable to put in a link... But youtube "Vogon Poetry". Forget the death penalty. Double Fine would rather be hanged up by the nuts and left to dry.
LMAO! From Wiki:

Vogon Poetry is described as "the third worst poetry in the Universe". The main example used in the story is a short piece composed by Jeltz, which roughly emulates nonsense verse in style (example below). The story relates that listening to it is an experience similar to torture as demonstrated when Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect are forced to listen to the poetry (and say how much they liked it) prior to being thrown out of an airlock.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly/thy micturations are to me/As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes. And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

READ IT!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636837 Jul 5, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Point taken. If they put up religious symboks all over the place, then youbare in a country where your religion will probably not be tolerated.
Take SA. Official figures state then we are Christian and Muslim, but the truth is, most of the population (ethnic blacks like Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Sotho) pray to ancestor spirits, see witch doctors, generally,.live by a whole set of different rules.
Yet, prayer is not done in parlement. Instead, opportunity is given for silent prayer and meditation. No religious interference is allowed in state. Religious holidays were removed, or renamed.
That means, if you are Muslim, you will not have to celebrate the day the Christians believe Jesus to have ascended. If you are Christian, you do not have to commmorate in Eid. Thank your lucky stars. You would go hungry
Very fair system you got there, I dig it.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#636838 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
Thank you for asking these questions. i will tell you – in detail – about the evils you complain about. these pains are divided into two sections: one is destined by Allah to occur in the present life, it is part of it and the message of the human is not complete without experiencing theses pains and tests. it is as abbas al aqad explained:“a solidarity between the parts of the universe, as there is no meaning of bravery without danger, no generosity without need, no patience without hardships and no virtue without vice that opposes and illustrates it ..“this can be applied on our sensual pleasures, and on our psychological and intellectual needs. we do not know the pleasure of being full unless we endure hunger, we do not feel sodden unless we experience thirst. we would not enjoy a beautiful scene unless it is in our nature to be disturbed by an ugly one”.. this explanation of the nature of the present life also includes the fact that almighty Allah tests each person of what concords with his nature and what agrees with his personality and environment. people vary to a great degree; a person might scream complaining of what might not bother another at all. Allah has a divine reason for putting his creations into such adversities. what is important is that the incidents of the private and public life is ruled according to a comprehensive frame of doubtless divine justice. the second section of evils that you complain about is your fault and the fault of devious people like you.
<quoted text>
Okay cool.

So your god wants you to have sone back door action, otherwise you lead an incomplete life. You best start going at it?

Double Fine will respectfully decline

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#636839 Jul 5, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We weren't talking only about the death penalty, but about crime in general and the way these sissy American liberals have the need to pamper criminals and "feel for them". Read timn's posts, he's going on and on like it's not the criminal's fault, it's the law's.
O_o
I had my truck stolen once, about 15 years ago. It had all my work tools in it. I got the truck back in a few days but all the tools were gone. ALL of them. They were my livelihood, I needed them to feed my family and I spent years accumulating them.
The little meth head f_ckhead that stole my truck got caught, got sentenced to 30 days in county jail and was released in two weeks.
TWO WEEKS! It took me over a year to repurchase all my tools. It was like I was being punished for some meth head's crime.
Would any sane person think that he learned his lesson and has repaid his debt to society? No. All that accomplished was untold thousands spent on lega fees and two weeks for that SOB to catch up on his sleep. He learned nothing, he didn't feel punished and he stole more cars.
Our system is f_cked. People like that need to be thrown in a dungeon for a year, cold and damp and scary. They NEED to be afraid to go to prison. They NEED to be afraid to break the law.
The unfortunate fact is that respect just doesn't appeal to some people. So the only other thing to get them in line, is fear.

When I watch on TV those prisons in Thailand, that is what a prison should be like. Dirty concentration camps, prisoners eat worms and other slop. If they behave well, they get to eat apples. Not some holiday resort with warm beds, a TV, and gay prostitutes circulating about.

It's become so absurd, that even on TV in some adverts where the government appeals to the public to behave, they show the gangster prisoners that you may end up with. Its like the main thing to fear in prison, are the other prisoners. If you're a certified badass at the top of the prison food chain, you have nothing to fear.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#636840 Jul 5, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
lol, I don't even know what a spliffie is....
The only illegal drugs I've ever done is weed, and just a few times. I didn't like it at all. Other than that, nuttin. I've never even seen any other kinds of drugs.
Weed is awesome.

A joint a day keeps the doctor away, or that's the way Double Fine heard it.

Doubke Fine is oot of here. Going to have some dinner and try to seduce some lady later on.

Cheers, all
Myth Buster

Prescott Valley, AZ

#636841 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
God is the all-powerful Creator of a perfect, ordered universe.
There's absolutely no scientific evidence that either the universe or life on earth was created by design. The universe is grossly inefficient not "perfect".

You're a stark raving mad insane lunatic making a complete ass of yourself on an international forum and should be institutionalized immediately, kid.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636842 Jul 5, 2013
Dianne Matthews wrote:
Well AD means after the death of Christ. So why would our whole date system be after something that does not exist. That's just stupid.
Myth Buster wrote:
It's completely asinine and will someday be changed.
You're a dumb ass. It doesn't mean After Death and it's already been changed.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#636843 Jul 5, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Children are easily manipulated and the religious brainwashing of children is clearly child abuse. Society needs to protect children from preying religious cults and willfully ignorant self-righteous bigoted godbots like you would have theirs brainwashed.
...OR...

Children are easily manipulated and the atheist brainwashing of children is clearly child abuse. Society needs to protect children from preying atheist cults and willfully ignorant self-righteous bigoted athibots like you would have theirs brainwashed.
Myth Buster

Prescott Valley, AZ

#636844 Jul 5, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
the second section of evils that you complain about is your fault and the fault of devious people like you.
The most devious people in the history of the human race are the founders of the abomination known as organized religion and the perpetuators of the greatest lie ever told.

The mindless followers of barbaric religious cults, such as you and the equally retarded and revolting Riverside Redneck, are responsible for most of the evil in the world.

“Ahoyhoy all!”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#636845 Jul 5, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Few questions.
1) Your god is present everywhere? How about in excrement? On the inside of a used condom? How about in beer?
2) Why could your god, the oh-so-holy designer not design us a better waste removal system that makes it necessary for us to urinate or have bowel movements? Does your god have some sort of fetish?
3) He designed our galaxy with a giant, supermassive black hole in the centre. That is like building your house next to a volcano
4) Explain vestigal organs. Did god no longer know what to put in is, so he chucked all kinds of crap inside us?
5) Flies. Why did he make them
6) Ditto mosquitos. Could he not make a world without them?
7) Why is the male G-spot (assuming you know what that is) located inside the anus? Does your god want us to have some backdoor fun?
8) Why did your god make so many planets in the solar system, and able to create life on only one?
9) Why did your god make us have acne during our formative years? Does he not know that it destroys the self-image of a teenager?
10) Diseases. Does your god like them? He sure did a giod job of making them, eh?
Some interesting questions...to which I have a few to add....

1. How do you reconcile the commandment 'thou shall not kill' with the old testament mandate to slaughter the amalecites and midionites?

2. Why do the 10 commandments not include rape? abuse of children? genocide? but do include thought crimes such as coveting?

3. If religion is the basis for morality as Christians believe, on what basis did the good samaritan (himself not a Christian) decide to offer his support to a fellow human being? If indeed people can act morally without religion, why do we need religion?

4. The Bible states that Jesus would return in the lifetime of his disciples (Matt 16:28)....why did he decide not to do so?

5. In what sense is vicarious culpability down through generations (for the misdemeanors of Adam and Eve and the crucifixion of Jesus) a moral preaching? Why should I accept culpability for the crucifixion of an eccentric preacher in Bronze-age Palestine?

6. The Sanhedrin, the only people who we know did meet Jesus AND recorded their views in writing during his lifetime, concluded that Jesus was bogus. Why do you choose to ignore their views when, historically, they are the most reliable witnesses we know of?

7. Where is Mount Sinai? Israeli archaeologists have repeatedly failed to locate it and have concluded that it was mythical - despite their vested interest in verifying its existence.

8. If we are what it's all about, why create the other thirty billion observable galaxies and estimated 7 to the power of 600 planets?

9. If we have free will, am I able to opt out of god's plan by choosing to go to neither heaven nor hell but to simply cease to exist. If the answer is no, to what extent do I therefore have free will?

10. If God is good, why ask Abraham to slaughter his own son to prove his belief in God?

Since: May 12

Accra, Ghana

#636846 Jul 5, 2013
Thank you for your statements.First of all i dont know where you got the idea that noah was drunkard. God destroyed the people of noah because they were transgressors. We know from scriptures that God Punished the human race swiftly in the past.

"Has there not reached them the news of those before them - the people of Noah and [the tribes of]'Aad and Thamud and the people of Abraham and the companions of Madyan and the towns overturned? Their messengers came to them with clear proofs. And Allah would never have wronged them, but they were wronging themselves." 9:70

sweets2360 wrote:
<quoted text>
So he perfected us. Wow, what a failure. He did such a dismal job in the first place, he decided to wipe the slate clean and start over, thus the "flood". But if he were going to produce a perfect specimen the second time around, why did he let the drunk Noah, be the starter of the second generation? Epic fail. "If it doesn`t make sense, it isn`t true" Judge Judy.
If I wanted to start from scratch and make a better mouse trap, I wouldn`t start with the old, ineffective mousetrap as a guide. Get real.
Myth Buster

Prescott Valley, AZ

#636848 Jul 5, 2013
RetardedAndRevoltingRiversideR edneck wrote:
...OR...
There exists no alternate reality in which ignorance, intolerance and violence inciting Dark Ages dogma is true.

Until the inevitable international ban on religious brainwashing, rational people will have to tolerate blissfully ignorant self-righteous bigoted piles of shit like you without any socially redeemable qualities.

Once again, I encourage everyone in this forum to immediately cease replying to this stark raving mad insane lunatic and feeding the dangerously delusional nutcase's absolutely pathetic need for attention.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 7 min MARKOTHUMEA 668,171
Bush is a hero (Sep '07) 15 min RiccardoFire 183,709
The Christian Atheist debate (Jun '15) 46 min nanoanomaly 93,138
Poll Was 9/11 a conspiracy?? (Oct '07) 1 hr Pegasus 286,128
Why Should Jesus Love Me? (Feb '08) 1 hr Peace_Warrior 619,257
--- Pres TRUMP Opening Door to ANTICHRIST, TRIB... 1 hr Frogface Kate 3
Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple of Jesus ... (Mar '07) 1 hr RiccardoFire 46,050
More from around the web