Prove there's a god.

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#636670 Jul 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:

define "darkness"
Dumb atheist.

Darkness: the partial or total absence of light.

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#636671 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't know and I'm not interested in your addiction to leprechauns.
Unicorns, vampires, fairies, etc. Doesn't matter. Wouldn't it feel surreal to you if the average person believed in a secret god unicorn in a cave?

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#636672 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Scientific apologetics?
No.

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#636673 Jul 4, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Perhaps it should say, "in nothing we trust"....or maybe just..."we don't trust". Would that be suitable?
Perhaps it shouldn't say anything religious at all? Or do you agree that the majority religion should impose it's will on everyone else?

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#636674 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nah...
I dunno about timn, but for the "humanist", it would say "In Me We Trust".
Humanism is not about egocentrism. It's basically about affirming and upholding human rights for everyone.

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#636675 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You would like it better if the small child died, too?!
I would like it better if people didn't die brutal deaths. Impossible, I know, but that's the point. It shouldn't happen under the tenure of a loving god. I would also like it if religious people didn't call it a miracle when 1000 people die but some lucky person survives. It's nice for the survivor, I guess.
waaaz up

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#636676 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You spent a really long time to set up this apologist nonsense.
Well, atleast he takes time...

You just blurt it out.

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#636677 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Therefore god.
Once again, you said that...not me.

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#636678 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Crime is rampant because of people like you - that are soft on criminals.
Criminals feed off of the "understanding" of society.
Some countries have the death penalty for possession. If your hypothesis was correct, drugs wouldn't exist in those countries. Deterrents do nothing.

And we as a society are not at all soft on crime. Most of us believe in retributive justice, and we have ridiculously harsh penalties for stupid things like drugs. Yet we abuse drugs at a higher rate than pretty much the entire world.

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#636679 Jul 4, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, ya, ya.... You softie liberals have been trying that for several decades.
And the crime rates skyrocket.
Coincidence?
What in the world are you talking about? Crime rates are down, first of all, and there has never been even a correlation between harsher punishments and less crime. You're deluding yourself. The war on drugs is the easiest example. For the past 30 years, and especially during the crack epidemic, we doled out absurd punishments for things like simple possession. Did drug crime go down? No. Billions of dollars and many, many ruined lives later.

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#636680 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Unicorns, vampires, fairies, etc. Doesn't matter. Wouldn't it feel surreal to you if the average person believed in a secret god unicorn in a cave?
No.

Even if it did, I wouldn't waste my time arguing with them.

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#636681 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No.
Seems like it.

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#636682 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps it shouldn't say anything religious at all? Or do you agree that the majority religion should impose it's will on everyone else?
What's wrong with that? Seriously, if 95% of the people believe in a god, why not have it on the currency?

Why should 95% cater to the 5% and lose out?

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#636683 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Humanism is not about egocentrism. It's basically about affirming and upholding human rights for everyone.
Bullshit. The humanists' primary importance is to the self. "In Me I Trust" would swoon them fantastically.

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#636684 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I would like it better if people didn't die brutal deaths. Impossible, I know, but that's the point. It shouldn't happen under the tenure of a loving god. I would also like it if religious people didn't call it a miracle when 1000 people die but some lucky person survives. It's nice for the survivor, I guess.
Ever seen Bruce Almighty? Remember the part where he answered YES to all prayers? Remember the chaos that ensued?

I know it's just a movie, but that's what would happen.

1,000 people will die no matter what, God chooses not to intervene on us, He gives us free will to make our choices and destiny.

“ad victoriam”

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arte et marte

#636685 Jul 4, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Where's the love Aura? Where'd it go huh?
I'm still here, myths all gone.

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#636686 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Some countries have the death penalty for possession. If your hypothesis was correct, drugs wouldn't exist in those countries. Deterrents do nothing.
And we as a society are not at all soft on crime. Most of us believe in retributive justice, and we have ridiculously harsh penalties for stupid things like drugs. Yet we abuse drugs at a higher rate than pretty much the entire world.
That's exactly my point. Drugs, crime, etc wasn't so bad until you liberals started imposing all the social understanding and compassion towards criminals.

Crime deserves harsh punishment. Period.

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#636687 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What in the world are you talking about? Crime rates are down, first of all, and there has never been even a correlation between harsher punishments and less crime. You're deluding yourself. The war on drugs is the easiest example. For the past 30 years, and especially during the crack epidemic, we doled out absurd punishments for things like simple possession. Did drug crime go down? No. Billions of dollars and many, many ruined lives later.
That's right, I forgot. Crackheads are crackheads because of the punishments...

You dumb ass liberals make me sick.

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#636688 Jul 4, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, it's 2 scientists. 2 scientists vs. 99.9% of their colleagues. Why should I value their opinion? The fact that we don't know *exactly* how some of the phyla present in the cambrian evolved does nothing to discredit the TOE.
You're projecting your religious feelings on me. I can tell you with 100% honestly it would not upset me if evolution were overturned. Why would it? I don't believe my soul depends on it. That's like telling someone that they would be upset if the theory of gravity was overturned.
And yes, you are bound to creationism. That's what faith is. There is a reason why you dispute one of the, if not the most robust theory that mankind has ever created - your religion. You believe that your fate is completely dependent on pleasing your anthropomorphic deity - how could you not be bound to such a belief?
Yes, 2 scientists and 99.9% of their colleagues agree with them...yet you don't. Hence, their colleagues have come up with a multitude of new hypotheses in an attempt to tie the Cambrian animals back in with the Precambrian, including the Ediacarans, which they currently can't prove are ancestral. seems kinda like they have an agenda...you know...to give credence to the TOE. No Precambrian rabbit necessary. Without evidence of an ancestral tie...How will they explain the diverse phyla? Yes...they need an answer so they do have an agenda.

As for projecting...lol...why would I need to project? If they had 100% proof that there is no God...what have I lost? would I still question evolution? Yes...I would. Most Christians don't give evolution a second thought. They simply believe in God...end of story. That is not me. Otherwise, I wouldn't be on here questioning the whole theory.

And last, NO...I am not bound by creationism. I can choose to deny God at any time...therefore, I am not bound. Faith is believing and trusting in a God I have no tangible proof of.

“ad victoriam”

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#636689 Jul 4, 2013
My daddy won the war, but it wasn't July 4th 1776.

That was the day I said to pull back and leave this long haired country boy alone.



That was October 19, 1781 when Cornwallis surrendered to my DaddyO!

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