Prove there's a god.

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#635336 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Be nice.
Disagree all you want.
But always be nice.
Look how many insults the atheists throw at me every day.
You see me pounce back?
Nope.
Be nice.
I dont see whats wrong with calling them what they are :/ They make me want to vomit. But I'll take your advice :/

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635337 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Alright then, quit f_ckin around. Demonstrate jealousy for me.
(Remember that in this exercise I've never experienced jealousy so I'm skeptical of its existence)
Make me a believer, you said it can be demonstrated.
Demonstrate away.
Okay.

Think of Angelina Jolie and all the things you would like to do to her....

Now, picture Brad Pitt doing them.

... QED :)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#635338 Jul 2, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Depends on your definition of 'evidence'. Is it demonstratable? Is it empirical? If yes, then it needs to be presented.
What do I mean? Let us assume you look into a telescope, and is able to see your deity, waving at you. I should be able to see the exact same thing. Or, if you can pray to your deity, and make something happen that defies any known physical law. Like Moses parting the Red Sea. Can you do things like that through prayer?
Mkst likely no. Then you get subjective experiences, that counts as evidence. You 'feel' god when praying, worshipping or going to church. What you 'feel' is not really repeatable. I can go into the exact same church, and I would not feel a thing. I can try to recite a prayer, and not feel a thing.
The most likely explanation for these, is because of a dogmatic belief. Most religious people were indoctrinated - at four years old, told to believe in a fantastic, all powerful being, that one cannot see or smell or touch, and to question this deity, is bad, because those with questions go to hell.
That is possible, of course.

But it is also possible that some people simply lack the ability of faith that is needed to find God.

Some people lack the ability to love, and that is evidenced in their life. One poster here, Koder, is a good example of that. She has absolutely no desire for affection, love, romance or sex. She just can't do it. So take that person's lack of ability and change the word from "love" to "God"...

I believe that God exists. I have had prayers answered and I have felt His touch.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635339 Jul 2, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Years ago, when I lived in Amsterdam, I had a mustard-yellow 850 Spider. Drove it twice through Belgium, France and Spain, brought it back to the U.S. where I drove it from the east coast to California, kept it three years more. Ran on high revs.
Wait. What? 850 as in cc? Meaning 0.85 litre engine?

Would believe you, on the high revs. Small engines like to overannounce their presence

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#635340 Jul 2, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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What? Theistic propaganda? Yes, I said it. You quoted some loons who spoke of atheism negatively, promoting a theistic agenda. What else is it than propaganda?
Oh so noe you backpedal to skepticism is 'blind'.
Sadly, wrong again, dearie. Skepticism is asking questions. It is the reason humanity moves forward.
Lmao skepticism is blind. If you know, then you wont need to ask questions.

And the other reason I brought up the fact you disrespected theism, is to also point out how you therefore disrespected Al's and Truth's beliefs. Yet you're supposed to be respecting theirs, after what you just said.

I've grown weary with you.

Go chase your tail with someone else little doggy.:)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635341 Jul 2, 2013
Ilovewhitemen20 wrote:
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I dont see whats wrong with calling them what they are :/ They make me want to vomit. But I'll take your advice :/
Good girl.

I'll hold you to that.

Do not incur the wrath of RR...

:p

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635342 Jul 2, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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Okay.
Think of Angelina Jolie and all the things you would like to do to her....
Now, picture Brad Pitt doing them.
... QED :)
Well shit, man...

&*$&^(*(&%($#)))_* $

Now I kinda wanna get in the middle and see what happens...

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635343 Jul 2, 2013
Ilovewhitemen20 wrote:
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that doesnt make you better than me.
Thank you for posting this. It proves you're an arrogant jackass, like the rest of your atheist brethren. I knew it all along.:)
No, THAT does not make me better than you. What does make me better, is I can respect another's viewpoint, without resorting to insults, I can disagree and keep it humane. And when talking to someone with a broader knowledge than my own, I listen, I ask questions. I try and learn

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#635344 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Good girl.
I'll hold you to that.
Do not incur the wrath of RR...
:p
Looool.:P

Since: Sep 11

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#635345 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, ya, ya....
And plenty of ex-atheists have felt God and are now Christian. So what were they feeling? Doing it right I guess?
Not the same. You're pulling a one true scotsman fallacy. When *you* feel god, you really feel him, and it leaves no doubt in your mind regarding his existence - furthermore, you assert that if only I could feel him as you do, I would believe. Other people have felt him too, and then lost their faith. This begs the question - what of these people who have felt him, truly, and do no longer? Going from atheism to christianity does not beg the same question, because no one makes any divine claims about feeling atheism.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635346 Jul 2, 2013
Ilovewhitemen20 wrote:
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They cant understand that.:/ I've been trying to explain that to these dumb a sses for the past 3 hours. Will be time for me to go to work soon. A job that makes me inferior to Double Tard.
I'm so hurt... ;'(
I didn't demean your job dearie. It is a means to an end, and in this day and age, any job that is paying is worth doing.

But what I am against, is you schooling people on what science is and should be. You talking about quantum physics without even having mastered Newtonian physics is laughable.

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#635347 Jul 2, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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No, THAT does not make me better than you. What does make me better, is I can respect another's viewpoint, without resorting to insults, I can disagree and keep it humane. And when talking to someone with a broader knowledge than my own, I listen, I ask questions. I try and learn
You never respected mine, so why should I respect yours?:)

Since: Mar 13

Anaheim, California

#635348 Jul 2, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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No, THAT does not make me better than you. What does make me better, is I can respect another's viewpoint, without resorting to insults, I can disagree and keep it humane. And when talking to someone with a broader knowledge than my own, I listen, I ask questions. I try and learn
And stop acting like you can be my sage or something. Keep your atheist hogwash to yourself. I dont want to think like an atheist.:)

Since: Sep 11

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#635349 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Alright then, quit f_ckin around. Demonstrate jealousy for me.
(Remember that in this exercise I've never experienced jealousy so I'm skeptical of its existence)
Make me a believer, you said it can be demonstrated.
Demonstrate away.
Do I need to link you to self reports of people describing jealousy? Do I need to link to descriptions of what exactly goes on in the brain and the body when experiencing it? Examples of people behaving jealousy?
Or will you accept that these things do exist, and that they prove that there exists an emotion we call jealousy?

Since: Sep 11

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#635350 Jul 2, 2013
Ilovewhitemen20 wrote:
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I already corrected my own grammar mistake with Double Tard.
Got your little ego stroke? Good. Now go find something else pathetic to do.
That.. wasn't a grammar mistake. What?

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#635351 Jul 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It is when it becomes a philosophy, a kneejerk reaction, and just being contrary to be contrary.
I highly doubt she thought about that when she said it.

But you raised a good point. Just how skeptical is too skeptical? Is there such a thing?

I believe so. To be skeptical to the very end, means that one would never believe anything anyone says, unless he has proven it himself. Is that multivitamin good for you? Is that new mouthwash really better than the old one? Sometimes, we'll just never know, but we use it.

Will that woman really make you happy? If you were a fanatical skeptic, you'll just never get married.

And to say "Oh it's a belief, thus its probably dumb", would be a misuse of the characteristic of being skeptical. That's more of an emotional skepticism.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635352 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That is possible, of course.
But it is also possible that some people simply lack the ability of faith that is needed to find God.
Some people lack the ability to love, and that is evidenced in their life. One poster here, Koder, is a good example of that. She has absolutely no desire for affection, love, romance or sex. She just can't do it. So take that person's lack of ability and change the word from "love" to "God"...
I believe that God exists. I have had prayers answered and I have felt His touch.
I dont know about KittenKoder's attitude toward love and affection. I am sure she loves her pets and her family. But I do not want to say too much about her feelings, for they are her own.

Now just like you have felt a god,I have also been in churches, prayed, sang... And nada. No feeling. No intervention. I tried my best. Went through hell as a child. Yet, no god came to claim me.

Still, I believed. Until one day, I.started asking but why? And from that day, I am free

Since: Sep 11

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#635353 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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They say they hold that opinion because of a lack of scientific evidence.
What they don't understand is that something spiritual, by it's nature, is non-scientific and will have no evidence. At least with today's scientific technology.
This is why I try to make the analogies about emotions to them. Emotions cannot be scientifically proven. By their standards, emotions should not exist....
No, RR, for the love of all that is holy, please stop... I am going to break my computer screen if I have to read you say this again. Please, please stop. Qualia cannot be scientifically qualified. I really think this is why you're confused. You have the concept of qualia tied up inextricably to the concept of emotion. They are very closely related, but not the same thing. The personal experience of an emotion cannot be qualified, but the fact that emotion itself exists can and is already proven.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#635354 Jul 2, 2013
Ilovewhitemen20 wrote:
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Lmao skepticism is blind. If you know, then you wont need to ask questions.
And the other reason I brought up the fact you disrespected theism, is to also point out how you therefore disrespected Al's and Truth's beliefs. Yet you're supposed to be respecting theirs, after what you just said.
I've grown weary with you.
Go chase your tail with someone else little doggy.:)
I am sure True Truth and Al are going to have a sleepless night tonight, me having disrespected the practice of theism.

Really? You are down to stulid arguments like these?

The only reason you grow weary, is because you have been humiliated.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635355 Jul 2, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Not the same. You're pulling a one true scotsman fallacy. When *you* feel god, you really feel him, and it leaves no doubt in your mind regarding his existence - furthermore, you assert that if only I could feel him as you do, I would believe. Other people have felt him too, and then lost their faith. This begs the question - what of these people who have felt him, truly, and do no longer? Going from atheism to christianity does not beg the same question, because no one makes any divine claims about feeling atheism.
There is nothing divine about atheism, that's why.

Are there people that have "felt him, truly" and do no longer?

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