Prove there's a god.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#635068 Jul 1, 2013
karl44 wrote:
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
cowards will always have room enough for a god belief
<quoted text>
Rational Skeptics evaluate
religitards believe
Your use of "religitards" disqualifies you as being a rational skeptic.
It identifies you as someone with an axe to grind.
Guest

United States

#635069 Jul 1, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Come on and do it.
Prove there's a god.
Don;t read off scripture or anything like that just prove there's a god.
Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

I was an atheist at one time. And like many atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly. What is it about atheists that we would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that we don't believe even exists?! What causes us to do that? When I was an atheist, I attributed my intentions as caring for those poor, delusional people...to help them realize their hope was completely ill-founded. To be honest, I also had another motive. As I challenged those who believed in God, I was deeply curious to see if they could convince me otherwise. Part of my quest was to become free from the question of God. If I could conclusively prove to believers that they were wrong, then the issue is off the table, and I would be free to go about my life.

proof of GodI didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them.

I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Lewis went on to write a book titled, "Surprised by Joy" as a result of knowing God. I too had no expectations other than rightfully admitting God's existence. Yet over the following several months, I became amazed by his love for me.

6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us.

Why Jesus? Look throughout the major world religions and you'll find that Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them ever claimed to be equal to God. Surprisingly, Jesus did. That is what sets Jesus apart from all the others. He said God exists and you're looking at him. Though he talked about his Father in heaven, it was not from the position of separation, but of very close union, unique to all humankind. Jesus said that anyone who had seen Him had seen the Father, anyone who believed in him, believed in the Father.

He said, "I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."14 He claimed attributes belonging only to God: to be able to forgive people of their sin, free them from habits of sin, give people a more abundant life and give them eternal life in heaven. Unlike other teachers who focused people on their words, Jesus pointed people to himself. He did not say, "follow my words and you will find truth." He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#635070 Jul 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That IS your belief.....
lol

from the tv show :

"big bang theory"

RR, I do not know if there is a prize here for knukle-head, but you must be close to the choice.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635071 Jul 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

So what?
Since all of you refuse to answer, I'll ask again.
Do you think DNA was nonexistent before science discovered it?
(PS: I don't expect an answer, just another dodge)
karl44 wrote:
you care what I think!??
wow.
what in hell is the question?
Um....

O_o

*scratches head*

The sentence with the question mark at the end......

Quit dodging and answer the question.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#635072 Jul 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
A few thousand years ago there was no evidence of god.
A few hundred years ago ..there was no evidence of god.
A few years years ago ..there was no evidence of god.
A few days ago ..there was no evidence of god.
A few hours ago ..there was no evidence of god.
A few minutes ago ..there was no evidence of god.
A few seconds ago ..there was no evidence of god.
There never was no evidence of god.
Sounds like something Henry might have said.
Now, I know you ain't no Henry.
You're much taller.......
Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#635073 Jul 1, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
What rational person would accept the opinions and conclusions of someone who specializes in rants and character assassination?
You're not a rational person. You're a especially retarded and revolting redneck who openly embraces the vitriol of your brainwashed brainwasher and refuses to listen to rational people:

Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#635075 Jul 1, 2013
Guest wrote:
Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.
Your imaginary friend has never pursued you or anyone else. You're just a typical religiously retarded redneck with delusions of grandeur even though you have the intellectual capacity of a mentally retarded child.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635076 Jul 1, 2013
karl44 wrote:
lol
from the tv show :
"big bang theory"
RR, I do not know if there is a prize here for knukle-head, but you must be close to the choice.
What?! You wrote this:

"The god you imagine is a projection of your psyche"

Are you going to claim this as fact or belief?

If its fact, you'll have to present some evidence that I imagine God AND that He's merely a projection of my psyche.

If not, then it's your belief.

Go.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635077 Jul 1, 2013
karl44 wrote:
RR, I do not know if there is a prize here for knukle-head, but you must be close to the choice.
Oh, and if there's a prize for knucklehead, you'd get it because you can't even spell knucklehead.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#635078 Jul 1, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not a rational person. You're a especially retarded and revolting redneck who openly embraces the vitriol of your brainwashed brainwasher and refuses to listen to rational people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RSwZJ55g80QXX
I listen to rational people every day. Unfortunately for you,you don' meet the standard

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635079 Jul 1, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:

You're not a rational person.
Neither are you. You're the one spouting hatred for people that are strangers to you. You're a sad little man.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#635080 Jul 1, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:

Your imaginary friend has never pursued you or anyone else.
100% wrong! You're just a typical athiest retard with delusions of grandeur even though you have the intellectual capacity of a mentally retarded child.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#635081 Jul 1, 2013
karl44 wrote:
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Karl, where do you come up with this coward stuff?
<quoted text>
This is a debate not a street fight
you have no idea how completely you are outclassed
You are wrong. This is a street fight. The real world, not some college dorm discussion where you can run to a professor to back you up, or an artificial setting to argue points.

You are out of your league. Run home, little boy.
waaaz up

London, KY

#635082 Jul 1, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
This religiously retarded redneck is clearly mentally retarded lacking the intellectual capacity to understand that science is fact based with evidence to support proven and verified theories. Please cease replying to this severely retarded redneck other than to advise him to seek professional help.
Science relies on objectivity, and needs to utilize a method called the "scientific method".

Science does rely on an objective method, but by what authority does the "scientific method" produce truth? By what authority does science possess when it says we must believe science because it utilizes the "scientific method"?

Therein lies the problem. The scientific method does provide purely objective data, BUT scientists still have to "interpret them. Since scientists are only human, the interpretation of the data becomes mixed with personal opinions and become "partially subjective".

This cannot be avoided you stupid retart!

So suck it up, and face your reality! You are the delusional one, who has been scientificly brainwashed, but to stupid to notice the similarity of putting "your" Faith into action, and taken "scientist" words at face value...

Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#635083 Jul 1, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
I listen to rational people every day.
Unfortunately, you lack the intellectual capacity to recognize rational people, which is why you'll waste away your worthless life as a retarded and revolting redneck with absolutely no socially redeemable qualities.
waaaz up

London, KY

#635084 Jul 1, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
This religiously retarded redneck is clearly mentally retarded lacking the intellectual capacity to understand that science is fact based with evidence to support proven and verified theories. Please cease replying to this severely retarded redneck other than to advise him to seek professional help.
I mean you cannot state that science is an authority of truth simpy because it uses the scientific method. It's like saying "I therefore conclude that science produces truth because it uses the scientific method."

By what authority?

How will you prove using the scientific method does produce truth? Because it's "scientific"? Because science said so? Again, the question "By what authority does science have by proclaiming to be the truth than religion"?

The statement "The results of the scientific method should be followed" is unscientific because it is a value statement that does not get its authority from anywhere but itself.

"We should use the scientific method." Why should we? "It proves itself." How does it prove itself? "It uses the scientific method."

"The scientific method is true because it works and because it is axiomatic (self-evident)."

Sounds a lot like faith to me. Who decides what is axiomatic? does the scientific method decide it? That makes it circular if it does. If not, then it is not scientific itself.

Now what was your argument, retart??
Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#635085 Jul 1, 2013
whack job waaaz up wrote:
You are the delusional one, who has been scientificly brainwashed
A religiously retarded redneck this mentally retarded really should be institutionalized immediately. There's absolutely brainwashing involved in studying scientific hypotheses and theories.

Scientific hypotheses are educated guesses based on observation. Scientific theories are proven hypotheses which have been verified by multiple teams of independent researchers.

There's no point attempting to reason with a godbot so completely brainwashed to be mentally retarded.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#635086 Jul 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Moving the goalposts again, timn...
tsk tsk tsk
I really don't think you understand the overall discussion nor what "moving the goalposts" means. I was trying to show you via example what you're doing wrong.

I say jealousy exists because jealous behavior (among other things) exists.

You say god exists because god belief exists.

I say jealousy demon exists because jealousy exists.

Do you still not understand?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#635087 Jul 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's absolutely relevant.
To a person that's never experienced jealousy, it doesn't exist. You can describe it to them all you want but you can't to them that it exists even thought it does.
Get it?
No.
waaaz up

London, KY

#635088 Jul 1, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
being compared to a religious person
now, there;
is a low blow
You actually think you are above or better then one who does not agree with you?

Gets lonely on that soap box i bet?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
The Christian Atheist debate (Jun '15) 2 min Buck Crick 100,551
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 1 hr Liamm 670,352
Bush is a hero (Sep '07) 6 hr Sky Writer 31 184,288
Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple of Jesus ... (Mar '07) 9 hr Jehowa Witness 46,179
Treating others with respect 11 hr UnderstandPeople 14
Do any attractive cougars or milfs want to trad... (Dec '11) 12 hr Seejay 4
God is REAL - Miracles Happen! (Jun '11) 14 hr Peter Ross 6,147
Poll Was 9/11 a conspiracy?? (Oct '07) Wed Pegasus 286,455
More from around the web