Prove there's a god.
Vinnie Bumbatz

Brooklyn, NY

#633564 Jun 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No they haven't, my bitch.
You seem to be angrily hoisting on your own petard.
Vinnie Bumbatz

Brooklyn, NY

#633565 Jun 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. You only mentioned your mom. You said nothing about dad. All thanks to mom, huh?
Why are you so angry? I didn't mention grandparents, either. Must I disseminate my family tree? Does yours have branches or is it just a pointed stick?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#633566 Jun 28, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
The 2013 accords are really nice. Honda has stepped up its' game on engine power, standard features and body style. They look "real purty"
The Accord Sport has a lot of nice high end features.
My mechanic's suggestion is to put in a used transmission and then sell the car. I have contacted a transmission specialist with a good reputation, and he'll look for a used SMG transmission.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633567 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>Nope. You can play dress up with my post but you look foolish in the lipstick.
It hasn't even been a hour and you already forgot your own post?

"I believe in a being greater than myself, who created me, watches over me, and whose unconditional love sustains me. I call her Mom."

Troll much?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#633568 Jun 28, 2013
undercontrolgh wrote:
Dave, Muslim do not worship but Allah nor associate anything or anyone with Allah. We go according to what Allah has revealed verbatim to Muhammad through an Angel. Anything that goes against the Koran we do not accept. As much as there are bad priests, there are bad mullahs and bad scientist. Islam means peace and submission to the one God.Dave have you ever read the Koran? and you did not tell me how you think this universe came into existence? or your beliefs about it?
<quoted text>
I lived a couple of years in a Muslim country.

Worshiping a book is worshiping an idol made by man. Pure and simple.

The words of Allah or whatever the Supreme Consciosness is, are spoken in your mind, not from a book or a preacher.

You should get the gist of how and what I believe from my words, but they won't be accurate. You will not find them in any book, either.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633569 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>Not an atheist. You've failed. The Christian god is presented as a wizard by many of the adherents to the cause. That would make it a Christian thing, as it is likely a majority.
"by many", you say...

Then it should be easy for you to find ONE Christian that thinks God is a wizard.

Go.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633570 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>And if I make the statement, "Apparently your god..,", how does that define me as an atheist? It no more does than the commandment that you should have no other gods admits that there are other gods. You seem very confused and conflicted. Should that be discerned as anger, too?
Never once did I say you are an atheist. You're not reading for comprehension, you're reading to argue.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633571 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so angry? I didn't mention grandparents, either. Must I disseminate my family tree? Does yours have branches or is it just a pointed stick?
Nope. You thanked mom for your existence.

That's on you, dude.

Get to work on your back pedaling now.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#633572 Jun 28, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Muslims do not worship books. And the Quran doesn't teach people the way to worship Allah. That we have learned through the example of our Prophet. The Quran teaches people how to be towards others, how to view the world and this life, and how to view ourselves. It describes the indescribability of God, the rationality and irrationality, the consistency and contradiction. It is filled with questions, to make people think, to ponder and be skeptical. Skeptical not out of a hypocritical desire to rebel, but out of a sincere desire to know the truth.
Your claim that Muslims worship the Quran couldn't be further from the truth, since the central theme of the Quran is to submit to God alone, and not make idols of anyone or anything, including ourselves. The concept of "Shirrk" (polytheism, animism or idol worship) in all its forms, is considered the greatest sin a person can ever commit, the root of all evil.
While things like animism and idol worship, even polytheism is in decline, the greatest form of shirrk prevalent today is the worship of the self. To forever look to please oneself, ones ego, to look inward, and then shift blame on others for all the ills in ones life, and of the world.
I think you shall quite enjoy reading the Quran, especially if you know some history of the context of each chapter. You shall also come to know just how little Muslims follow its message today.
Sorry, while I respect your belief in a higher power, all I see is a poem that became an idol. It served its purpose if it pointed you in the right path, and you left it on the park bench for someone else to pick up.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633573 Jun 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
My mechanic's suggestion is to put in a used transmission and then sell the car. I have contacted a transmission specialist with a good reputation, and he'll look for a used SMG transmission.
Midas does excellent work at a reasonable price and with a great guarantee.

IMO.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#633574 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you believe that a pedophilic goat herder ascended into the sky on a winged horse. You guys are hysterical. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Anyone can be accused of cognitive dissonance, be it theist or atheist. We see it here in this forum on both sides, even the ones claiming to be agnostic demonstrate cognitive dissonance from time to time.

Some Muslims believe that the Muhammed's flight to heaven on a winged horse was completely physical. Others believe it was a journey of the soul. There are other beliefs, such as faster than light travel, or creating time within time. It's all up to someones imagination regarding this night flight. Big deal, it's not a core Islamic value or anything as such.

Muhammed was quite a successful businessman. I'm not really sure how good he was as a goat herder though. The whole paedophile thing is a myth found in some hadith books, which were recorded over 200 years after Muhammed's life by a man who wasn't even an arab, but rather from Uzbekistan. Other hadiths even in the same book contradict this paedophile myth.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#633576 Jun 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Sorry, while I respect your belief in a higher power, all I see is a poem that became an idol. It served its purpose if it pointed you in the right path, and you left it on the park bench for someone else to pick up.
Have you read it? Have you picked it up, opened it, and read it like a book from beginning to end? It's about the size of an average novel, maybe smaller. About 400 pages.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#633577 Jun 28, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you read it? Have you picked it up, opened it, and read it like a book from beginning to end? It's about the size of an average novel, maybe smaller. About 400 pages.
I have read lots of poems.

Perhaps in your being mesmerized by that book you are losing sight of just what it says.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#633578 Jun 28, 2013
Double Fine is quite hungry now.

Have a happy Friday, everybody.

Double Fine is out
Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#633579 Jun 28, 2013
RetardedRiversideRedneck wrote:
No they haven't
Yes, they have been posted repeatedly! You're living proof that religious brainwashing retards intellectual development, my mentally retarded bitch.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#633580 Jun 28, 2013
Vinnie Bumbatz wrote:
<quoted text>Heal an amputee. Region the limb. Or, just keep river dancing.
I was speaking for Earnest Angley, and being very sarcastic at that.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#633581 Jun 28, 2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...

23 watts and 17 hours travel time, and we still pick up telemetry. Discrete signals on low power.

Anyone familiar with my EM leanings and us being model airplanes on remote control should understand why I don't believe gravity is the shaping force of this existence. Maybe a glue to keep you anchored, but not the force that created everything.

We have a constant river of plasma and EM from the sun, which is just a relay station, just like this planet is. In there are discrete signals. We live in a virtual reality, even though we feel it is real enough.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#633582 Jun 28, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
100% wrong!
Clearly, you're simply trying to rationalize your own personal delusions instead of following the evidence. There's absolutely no scientific evidence that life was created by design. In fact, all scientific evidence fully supports an entirely natural origin without the need of any supernatural guidance.
I didn't say there was evidence life was created by design. Please read more carefully before assuming. I said I believe it was always in existence and that "consciousness" is more than just some transient accident of an overall unconscious existence that 'just is'. I don't believe in natural/supernatural, only in known/unknown.

You really think that life came from nonlife? That's absurd. There is no evidence for it. They are trying to create the evidence by doing experiments that might lead one to think that random events of unconscious molecules could ever form what we call life but nothing is convincing. There is no real evidence.

There is evidence for evolution, given life, but that's not the issue here.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#633583 Jun 28, 2013
It's more like life and nonlife, if there exists such a duality, both came from the same source, and it seems reasonable that this source is likely conscious and intelligent.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#633584 Jun 28, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:

Yes, they have been posted repeatedly!
No they haven't.

We can, of course, end all this with you posting your mysterious irrefutable historical facts just ONE more time......

Whenever you're ready...

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