Prove there's a god.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#632875 Jun 25, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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Daahhhh how come Mars doesn't have moons and a sun George...
(except the two moons it has...)
"Mars has two moons Mr O'Rhhhealy"
Bill O: "Well that's your opinion..."
Phobos and Deimos. Uses the same Sun we do, too.

Sheesh, what a bonehead.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#632876 Jun 25, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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So the eternal entity is "something"?
That came from "nothing"?
Oh.
I made it clear in an earlier post that the deity was not part of the natural world.
So something from nothing does not apply.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#632877 Jun 25, 2013
sexyturk wrote:
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My apology it lead to to different meaning when i said producing itself. Give it to my poor English.. What i meant by that was that egg cannot produce embryo itself
Ah, okay, that's different.

And you're right, it takes two cells to produce an embryo. Otherwise, nothing.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#632878 Jun 25, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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It okay Double Fine English is bad like tail of cow
Oh, your English is adequate for a Saffer.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#632879 Jun 25, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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...well that's refreshing.
I am sure it isrefreshing and good boost for your ego for someone to bow their head infront of you but it doesnt mean he is less of a person than you are .. I am just tickling your ego , enjoy it;)

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#632880 Jun 25, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. Now the nonbeliever has to define god? You're being straight up ridiculous. You're playing an apologetics game. The onus of providing a definition and proof is on the believer, not the nonbeliever. If you believe you can define god and then provide proof within that framework - go for it, that's all "we" want. If you can't, don't forcibly pass the torch to me - it's not on me to define your god.
Also, you didn't give me any evidence to ponder. You made an appeal to what basically amounts to spinoza's god. A universe that doesn't break it's own rules is evidence of god? Really?
Ha. A believer telling a nonbeliever their nonbelief is based on emotion. Now that's rich.
This is a classic cop out that is getting old.

The onus is on anyone who makes a claim, to define their claim and provide evidence for the claim. Whether it be a claim of existence or non-existence.

If you and I are sitting at a bench and someone comes up to us and says "Grobulans don't exist!", we shall naturally ask "What the heck is a Grobulan? Why did you think they existed? And how do you know now that they don't exist?". You will require the person who made the claim, to define his claim and present his case, simply because he is the one that opened his mouth and asserted this claim upon us.

You assert the claim "God doesn't exist", so I am asking you to define your claim, explain your case and explain how you know why your definition of God doesn't exist.

I as a believer, one who claims God exists, has repeatedly defined my concept of God, and I have presented my case why I think God by that definition exists, and I explained my conclusion. When are you as a nonbeliever going to do the same? When are you going to stop running and engaging in this intellectual laziness, this cop out? Do you think this debate is like some arena where you sit elevated on a pedestal at the side, and each believer must come stand in the middle to present their case? Who do you think you are?

Everyone who opens their mouth and makes a claim must define and present their case. If you do not want to define and present anything, then just be silent.

Since: Sep 08

Olney Springs, CO

#632881 Jun 25, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. Now the nonbeliever has to define god? You're being straight up ridiculous. You're playing an apologetics game. The onus of providing a definition and proof is on the believer, not the nonbeliever. If you believe you can define god and then provide proof within that framework - go for it, that's all "we" want. If you can't, don't forcibly pass the torch to me - it's not on me to define your god.
Also, you didn't give me any evidence to ponder. You made an appeal to what basically amounts to spinoza's god. A universe that doesn't break it's own rules is evidence of god? Really?
Ha. A believer telling a nonbeliever their nonbelief is based on emotion. Now that's rich.
Silly boy, your emotion shows in your reasoning logic,
your compulsion to argue about it, and your hysteria when challenged.

.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#632882 Jun 25, 2013
sexyturk wrote:
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Its ok what i put there is something beyond what we hear from the imams in the mosques in daily bases it is just based on cross matching todays science and the sayings (Ayats) and (Haddissis)in Quran. It is just a deeper demension of reading the quran with open mind and observing the universe and slf...
It is not forced to be understood my brother
peace!!!
You have to be very careful when trying to link the Quran with science, because the Quran is not a science book. Allah says in the Quran that He speaks abundantly in allegories. He speaks figuratively. There are very few verses, that have turned out to be literally true and scientifically true.

I have studied this type of thing as well. If you are going to go this route recklessly, you are playing with a loaded gun and you will get shot by your own gun.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#632883 Jun 25, 2013
sexyturk wrote:
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My friend we are are saying the same the what you been arguing for past 3 hours you assume that i say we are on cell organisms. What i am trying to say is is with those on cells clashing ( yes i agree one is nothing without other) together. You have become a multi cell organism . Isn't that such a miracle that every single cell is identical to each other ??? But yet brain cells know to work as brain cells they dont become kidney in the brain.. Can't you see the whole program of your physiology and you anatomy is stored in something you can see in an electronic miroscope that blows up 1.000.000 (1 million ) times (!!!DNA!!!!)one dna in once cell stored the whole program amazing... Now how can you deny god?
When it snows snow flakes do not touch eachother? It is the part of perfection because thy are charged with same energy (+)(+) they push eachother in the sky till they ground on the floor. Have you thought of snowing giant snowballs from sky?? us as human make mistakes bu this divine program seems to make no mistakes brother
You are going on about this, yet you have not brought the verses. Bring the verses with their preceding context, and then let's see.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#632884 Jun 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, your English is adequate for a Saffer.
It is all the reading I do. I have lost most of my accent. I still sound a bit Urpean, but not too much. Chicks dig it, mostly.

My sister has an English boyfriend and she usually has to correct his grammatical errors. I suppose our mastery of the language is quite gewd

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#632885 Jun 25, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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You have to be very careful when trying to link the Quran with science, because the Quran is not a science book. Allah says in the Quran that He speaks abundantly in allegories. He speaks figuratively. There are very few verses, that have turned out to be literally true and scientifically true.
I have studied this type of thing as well. If you are going to go this route recklessly, you are playing with a loaded gun and you will get shot by your own gun.
Oh no i do not just use science. i find evidence in quran how it is connected to todays science everyday. it is facinating... And if you say Allah-u Akbar how could you seperate science from Allah?
Allahhusamed(In seperable) &#304;hlas:2

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#632886 Jun 25, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
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It is all the reading I do. I have lost most of my accent. I still sound a bit Urpean, but not too much. Chicks dig it, mostly.
My sister has an English boyfriend and she usually has to correct his grammatical errors. I suppose our mastery of the language is quite gewd
Ja, vragtig.

Her in the US, the ladies are really impressed by an English accent. I can do several well enough to fool Brits...

Laffin.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#632887 Jun 25, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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You are going on about this, yet you have not brought the verses. Bring the verses with their preceding context, and then let's see.
“Who created you, formed you (created you with a program to form your brain, an
individual consciousness and a spirit) and balanced you (the work process of your brain,
consciousness and spirit)! Whatever form (manifestation of Names)He willed for you, He
configured your composition accordingly.”(Quran 82:7-8)

Since: May 11

UK

#632888 Jun 25, 2013
sexyturk wrote:
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I am sure it isrefreshing and good boost for your ego for someone to bow their head infront of you but it doesnt mean he is less of a person than you are .. I am just tickling your ego , enjoy it;)
What was refreshing was that you admitted your holy book was wrong...you're still a poe.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#632889 Jun 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Re-unite Gondwanaland!"
(T-shirt.)

Oh please as if we don't have enough problems now! lol

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#632890 Jun 25, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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What was refreshing was that you admitted your holy book was wrong...you're still a poe.
Wrong for you... You never know one day wrong would be so right for you. A good debating has ended when you judged my book being wrong, i have never once said something was wrong in any other believes even never said YOU were wrong. Be the greatest man you are ill leave you alone with your blinders..

Since: May 11

UK

#632891 Jun 25, 2013
sexyturk wrote:
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Wrong for you... You never know one day wrong would be so right for you. A good debating has ended when you judged my book being wrong, i have never once said something was wrong in any other believes even never said YOU were wrong. Be the greatest man you are ill leave you alone with your blinders..
Your English is poor but you know what a POE is and such euphemisms as "tickling your ego"?

Silent night...troll-ly night....
People are sheep

Edmonton, Canada

#632892 Jun 25, 2013
god is Imaginary friend wrote:
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do you think it would make sense for God to sacrifice Himself to Himself to save people from Sin which He created Himself in the first place?
http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/vindic...
why does everyone think this Jesus person died for are sins when it's clear that he was a threat to the Jewish belief system and was, to put plainly slowly executed as proof of the power of the Jewish church,if he was stoned to death instead we would be worshipping rocks instead of crosses

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#632893 Jun 25, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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he forgot LIAR,,
lol
You forgot you evilbible spam.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#632894 Jun 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Right, and religion also breeds such thoughtful, loving people like you that say sh!t like "Evil heathen devil worshipping diseased atheists..."
Shut the f*ck up, you phony-@ss hypocrite.
I've never said anything like that ever.

Now why don't you shut me up, my shutter's broke.

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