Prove there's a god.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#632150 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's Creationsim, not ID.
Creationists start with that concept, that there is a God.
ID'ers start with "something designed needs a designer".
Geez...
You just repeated what I said, but added the denial of what was said.

They are both starting with an assumption, and it's the exact same assumption.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#632151 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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A scientific theory is supported by extensive research and repeated experimentation and observation in the natural world.
All known evidence indicates that matter is incapable of creating itself.
All evidence suggests that matter is not eternal.
All evidence indicates that inorganic matter is incapable of generating life.
All evidence indicates that no strictly material object has moral sensitivity.
All evidence indicates that objects characterized by design have been produced by an intelligent designer.
Intelligent Design researches these aspects of nature. Do evolutionsists?
Nope, none of what you stated is correct. Again, you are basically assuming that snowflakes are "designed" and not the result of water freezing at high altitudes.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#632152 Jun 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You just repeated what I said, but added the denial of what was said.
They are both starting with an assumption, and it's the exact same assumption.
Do you think that something deigned needs a designer?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#632153 Jun 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, none of what you stated is correct. Again, you are basically assuming that snowflakes are "designed" and not the result of water freezing at high altitudes.
Nope. Snowflakes are the result of design but aren't designed themselves.

Which part do you think is incorrect?

---All known evidence indicates that matter is incapable of creating itself.---

Is there evidence indicating that matter can create itself?

---All evidence suggests that matter is not eternal.---

I'd there evidence of everlasting matter?

---All evidence indicates that inorganic matter is incapable of generating life.---

Is there evidence of life from non-life?

---All evidence indicates that no strictly material object has moral sensitivity.---

Do you know of a material object that has moral sensitivity?

---All evidence indicates that objects characterized by design have been produced by an intelligent designer.---

You don't agree? Name one thing designed without a designer.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#632154 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nope. Snowflakes are the result of design but aren't designed themselves.
Which part do you think is incorrect?
---All known evidence indicates that matter is incapable of creating itself.---
Is there evidence indicating that matter can create itself?
---All evidence suggests that matter is not eternal.---
I'd there evidence of everlasting matter?
---All evidence indicates that inorganic matter is incapable of generating life.---
Is there evidence of life from non-life?
---All evidence indicates that no strictly material object has moral sensitivity.---
Do you know of a material object that has moral sensitivity?
---All evidence indicates that objects characterized by design have been produced by an intelligent designer.---
You don't agree? Name one thing designed without a designer.
Her videos. They appear by magic.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#632155 Jun 22, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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If God is below nature, having to follow and obey nature, then by definition, it would not be God.
And if God does not exist, then it means that the fundamental laws that govern the universe just conveniently exist. Considering how numerous, elegant and in some cases intricate these laws are, I find it very hard to believe in such a convenience.
that is what you would say regardless the "laws".

We are here.

therefor the Laws exist that allow for us to be here.

If it were not so, you would not ask the question or marvel at the Laws.

You build your god with fear and paranoia, you employ ignorance as excuse.

You are a disappointment to education.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#632156 Jun 22, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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Considering the complexity of nature, the intricate and elegant laws that govern the universe, that is evidence of a Creator.
Ultimately, either one believes in an uncreated Creator, or one believes in convenience. I prefer the former. You prefer the latter.
What makes you believe so highly in convenience?
your god belief is the larger convenience, and lack support.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#632157 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*siiiigh*
Then answer the question...
How did all that life happen to come to be?
evolution

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#632158 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You've never designed or created anything?!
O_o
If so, YOU are a designer/creator entity. And if a fly could think and reason like a human, you'd be a god to it.
So it's a god.

That's what I thought.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#632159 Jun 22, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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evolution
Such a simplistic mind.

Oh, that's right, you're Canadian.

Karl, throw a handful of pennies on a table top.

You have chaos. Randomness.

As far as how the pennies fell, anyhow.

Now, take the edge of your hands and scrunch them together as tight as you can.

You now have a design. Should pop right out to you.

You can build more designs from that.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#632160 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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A scientific theory is supported by extensive research and repeated experimentation and observation in the natural world.
All known evidence indicates that matter is incapable of creating itself.
All evidence suggests that matter is not eternal.
All evidence indicates that inorganic matter is incapable of generating life.
All evidence indicates that no strictly material object has moral sensitivity.
All evidence indicates that objects characterized by design have been produced by an intelligent designer.
Intelligent Design researches these aspects of nature. Do evolutionsists?
No.

We're not simpletons.

You are a simpleton.
xianity is EVIL

Bridgetown, Canada

#632161 Jun 22, 2013
6Kwisatz6Haderach6 wrote:
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Your doubt keeps you behind the veil of understanding. It is not until you allow for the possibility of a Godhead to commune with you that you will discover the value of its existence.
There is more value in acknowledging it than to deny it.
do tell,what does belief in god does for you?

and which god should one allow to posibly exist and why

www.godchecker.com
xianity is EVIL

Bridgetown, Canada

#632162 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Such a simplistic mind.
Oh, that's right, you're Canadian.
Karl, throw a handful of pennies on a table top.
You have chaos. Randomness.
As far as how the pennies fell, anyhow.
Now, take the edge of your hands and scrunch them together as tight as you can.
You now have a design. Should pop right out to you.
You can build more designs from that.
penies arent alive you Deluded moron!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#632163 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Do you think that something deigned needs a designer?
Yes, but nothing in nature is designed.
Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#632164 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
You are dumb.
As the most dangerously delusional nutcase in the history of topix, you're amongst the last to ever question the intelligence of anyone else.

Organized religion was founded so a few could control the gullible masses and has been very successful for thousands of years because feeble-minded and weak-willed subhuman cretins like you desperately want to believe their bullshit to feed their own delusions of grandeur and immortality.

You're a stark raving mad insane lunatic making a complete ass of yourself on an international forum and should be institutionalized immediately.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#632165 Jun 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nope. Snowflakes are the result of design but aren't designed themselves.
If snowflakes are the result of natural forces, then why do you have a hard time accepting the fact that everything is likely the result of natural forces?

The rest of what you posted I have already addressed.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#632166 Jun 22, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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penies arent alive you Deluded moron!
Neither was the stuff you claimed turned into life, dummy.
Myth Buster

Scottsdale, AZ

#632167 Jun 22, 2013
RetardedRiversideRedneck wrote:
Creationists start with that concept, that there is a God.

ID'ers start with "something designed needs a designer".
This brainwashed godbot is so blissfully ignorant to be incapable of understanding the significance of his own inane posts!

There's no scientific evidence that either the universe or life on earth was created by design so "ID'ers" start with a juvenile concept with absolutely no basis in reality.

Intelligent Design isn't science. It's Christian creationism repackaged for the sole purpose of introducing Christian dogma to the public school system in violation of the First Amendment.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#632168 Jun 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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No.
We're not simpletons.
You are a simpleton.
Your self evaluation is lacking in perspective, and thus true value.

Moron.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#632169 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Neither was the stuff you claimed turned into life, dummy.
Since all life is really just a chemical reaction, why is it such a stretch for you to accept that a chemical reaction probably started the chemical reactions we call life?

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