Prove there's a god.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#631789 Jun 21, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
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100% wrong! It's obviously beyond your very limited intellectual capacity to understand that rational freethinkers study science based in reality on observation and experimentation and continue to increase their knowledge throughout their lives.
It would be convenient to simply rely on a book known to be wrong.
1000% wrong.

They just think they do. Plenty of evidence of that on these pages.

They don't understand the science they "know". Just words in a book.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#631790 Jun 21, 2013
True Truth wrote:
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The evidence is in the law and order all around us. Scientists keep finding more and more evidence of law and order. Elegant, intelligent, intricate law. That is evidence of a Creator, overwhelming evidence, unless you are a firm believer in convenience.
Really, what more do you want? Do you want a youtube video of some ghosts or spirits? Do you want a photograph of a beardy man flying about? When you ask for evidence, what are you asking for?
This sounds much like the fine tuning argument, that the physical laws seem arranged so that life could happen.
It would seem to you in this niche that the universe was fine tuned because you are alive and it seems the universe was designed for you to live in.

But reality shows us it is not the case, the niche life dwells in is very small, and if the universe was designed for life, why did it take 13.7 billion years for us to evolve into it?
It more likely seems and appears life adapted to the conditions it could survive in. Also we are arrogant in assuming life has to be like us, when it maybe possible life elsewhere could be completely different requiring completely different conditions.

The fact that there are physical laws is not surprising, it would not have to come as a design. It is understood as forces moved away from a ground state they would balance and try to trickle back down to it's ground state. That would cause and ordered state to happen. Gravity would be evidence of the universe trying to return to it's ground state. Quantum mechanics predicts infinite universes all with different physical laws and different ground states.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#631791 Jun 21, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
100% wrong! It's obviously beyond your very limited intellectual capacity to understand that rational freethinkers study science based in reality on observation and experimentation and continue to increase their knowledge throughout their lives.
It would be convenient to simply rely on a book known to be wrong.
Strawman approach. You presume theists dont engage in scientific observation and experimentation and don't care to increase their knowledge. No doubt you presume this because your "free thinking" mind is conditioned from when you were a smaller boy, to see things as science vs church or science vs faith, and conditioned to generalize theists as faith fanatics who reject curiosity and scientific enquiry.

Ey free boy, you really not painting a favourable picture of your communist agenda hey. Haha.

Do you have a sculpture of stalins butt which you kiss everyday?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631792 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok then, lets try it this way.
You cannot accurately predict the lottery.
Better?
And very often, hurricanes can not be accurately predicted.

USUALLY, that refers to their path or strength.

But it CAN and HAS also referred to a hurricane being predicted that either becomes only a tropical storm or tropical depression or else fizzles out completely.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631793 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are continually commiting a logical fallacy.
"A gun can be used to kill, therefore it's design is to kill."
Here's another example.
"If there's a fire, then there's smoke. Therefore, if there's no fire, then there's no smoke."
Told you I've had enough of this already, that we're getting nowhere with this topic of discussion.

LAST point though since you fail to see how your convoluted logic is biting you on the a@@:

A SCREWDRIVER can be used to kill; therefore it's design is to kill.

WRONG.

However, guns not only CAN kill; in being used to do so, they are being used for the specific purpose for which they were designed.

And that is IT from me- at least for today- on the topic of guns.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#631794 Jun 21, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
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Once again, you're completely brainwashed mind is incapable of grasping any irrefutable fact in contradiction to your Christian indoctrination, which is why you should be institutionalized immediately.
The undeniable truth is you're a stark raving mad insane lunatic making a complete ass of yourself on an international forum with your willful ignorance of science and inability to differentiate science from Christian pseudoscience bullshit.
ALL OF THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FULLY SUPPORTS ENTIRELY NATURAL ORIGINS FOR THE UNIVERSE AND LIFE ON EARTH WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR SUPERNATURAL INVOLVEMENT. THERE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN A SINGLE SCIENTIFIC OBSERVATION IN SUPPORT OF DESIGN OR A DESIGNER.
Is ad hominem all your free thinking mind can ever come up with? Or is it all you were conditioned to spew out?

Your tantrums are getting monotonous free boy. Didn't your high priest stalin teach you any manners?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631795 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Scientific theories are not proven, they are simply unable to be disproven.
You can repeat the same definitively wrong statement daily for the rest of your wretched life, but it will never become true.
Sigh....Yes, RR- scientific theories ARE proven.

It's amazing how you obviously will never grasp the use of the word "theory" in the scientific community versus the use of the word "theory" by laymen.

Amazing as that is, it's sadder still.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631798 Jun 21, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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Why has he been on sale for such a long time then?
I didn't say RR was "ON sale" you fool.

He is IN sales- that means he is a salesperson.

WTF is WRONG with you and WTF do YOU care how long he has or has not been in sales???

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631799 Jun 21, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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Riverside Redneck is evil. Riverside Redneck is effeminate, do you understand that he is effeminate?
Do you understand that you are providing amusement here and nothing more?

Do you understand that you are totally deranged?

Do you understand that I am simply poking you with a stick and seeing you curl up in reaction like the brainless worm you are?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631802 Jun 21, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!! ROFFLMAO!!!!
First of all, just what year is 2101?????
But I assume you meant 2011.
At any rate, just because 73,505 didn't DIE from being wounded with guns, that in no way translates into them NOT dying having been the intent of the persons who shot them.
Really- it's like you're saying it's all good because 73,505 were "only" wounded by guns!!!
HILARIOUS!!!
OOPS.

No, lol I can see into the future...

It was supposed to be 2010, not 2101.

But it completely refutes your nonsense that most gunshots to people are fatal.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631803 Jun 21, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously, I can't DO this any more.
We're getting nowhere.
You won't admit as to WHY a person fires a projectile at high velocity on an intended trajectory.
So....ENOUGH of this already.
WHY a person fires a projectile at high velocity on an intended trajectory?

To hit a target.

Aero will tell you "a living body" or some bullshit.

You'd probably agree with him...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631804 Jun 21, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
You said you are working as a construction worker making buildings.
No I didn't.
But you said another time to Black Thunder 42, "I used to build houses too, ah the good ol' days!", as if building houses was of the past for you.
It IS the past for me. What do you care, I'm not 13....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631805 Jun 21, 2013
Mythic Stalin Lover wrote:
Your imaginary savior and personal delusions are more important to you than your own family.
I have no imaginary savior or personal delusions, so....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631806 Jun 21, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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I don't care.
I simply want you to admit that Riverside Redneck is effeminate.
1. I don't agree with you that RR is effeminate.

2. Even if I did agree with you and even if he was, so the F*CK what- what's it to YOU?

3. What you want and/or what you want me to admit to means less to me than NOTHING.

It's about 8PM where you are- just have another drink or as many as it takes until you pass out.

Nightie night!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631807 Jun 21, 2013
My Thick Bust wrote:
I thought bats were designed to hit rednecks!
***waits for one of your fellow atheists to coment on your need for violence***

***and waits...***

***and waits...***

***and waits...***

***and waits...***

***and waits...***

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631808 Jun 21, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Into a living body.
In order to make it a non-living body.
HA!

I predicted that...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631809 Jun 21, 2013
Myth Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, you're completely brainwashed mind is incapable of grasping any irrefutable fact in contradiction to your Christian indoctrination, which is why you should be institutionalized immediately.
The undeniable truth is you're a stark raving mad insane lunatic making a complete ass of yourself on an international forum with your willful ignorance of science and inability to differentiate science from Christian pseudoscience bullshit.
ALL OF THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FULLY SUPPORTS ENTIRELY NATURAL ORIGINS FOR THE UNIVERSE AND LIFE ON EARTH WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR SUPERNATURAL INVOLVEMENT. THERE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN A SINGLE SCIENTIFIC OBSERVATION IN SUPPORT OF DESIGN OR A DESIGNER.
Yes, but you didn't answer my question, not even close.

You're anger is visable from way over here.

Calm down, try again.

Is it rational to believe in something (there is no God) without ANY evidence at all and still call yourself rational?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631810 Jun 21, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Don't worry, little boy. I don't want to take your cool toys away.
I just want some sensible regulation.
Maybe an IQ test. Because a lot of gun owners I know wouldn't make it into double digits.
Hey, I'm all for regulation. Check out thegun laws here in Cali. They are the strictest in the nation.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#631811 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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OOPS.
No, lol I can see into the future...
It was supposed to be 2010, not 2101.
But it completely refutes your nonsense that most gunshots to people are fatal.
Where did I say most gun shots are fatal?

If I did, then I was wrong.

However, that does not refute the fact that the INTENTION of the shooters of those hit by non-fatal bullets didn't INTEND to KILL their victims.

At any rate, do you think it's just fine and dandy to shoot to wound and all the more if that wound results in permanent paralysis?

Ever hear of James Brady, RR?

Do you honestly think that John Hinkley did not intend to KILL him?

Do you honestly think that Mark Chapman made a "boo-boo" and only meant to INJURE John Lennon?

That more people are wounded by guns than killed by guns does not negate what the intent of the shooters is.

And I'm TIRED of this already!

And I've told you that a few time already!

So why do you keep posting to me to keep me in this topic of discussion when discussing it with you is FUTILE?

So don't think I'm ignoring you but any future posts of yours on this topic WILL go ignored by me.

E-N-O-U-G-H.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#631812 Jun 21, 2013
OCB wrote:

A GUN can be used to kill; therefore it's design is to kill.
WRONG.
There, I fixed it for ya.

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