Prove there's a god.

“Ditat Deus”

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#626326 May 25, 2013
Joseph is Jesus father wrote:
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So god is a male gender but was never created?
Since the only other pronouns in the English language are her, it or them. "He" was chosen.

Also, Jesus called him "father" which is synonymous with "he".

What pronoun would you give God?

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#626327 May 25, 2013
Joseph is Jesus father wrote:
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That's easy.
1 Redneck + 1 Redneck = 2 Rednecks.
Let's all hope that the results stop there...lol
So you can't prove 1+1=2 so you talk shit.

Wonderful.

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#626328 May 25, 2013
Joseph is Jesus father wrote:
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Good.
There might still be some hope for you.
*waits for some freethinking atheist to bitch at you because they claim one cannot 'believe' in evolution*

*and waits....*

*and waits....*

*and waits....*
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626329 May 25, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Damn man, you are crazy dangerous....just like other strong religious wackos.
Also you are wrong on some of the things you said.
The only thing wrong with this creepo is that his black boyfriend got tired of being around his bullsh!t and he's mad that he got put out.

He's just missing the prick, is all.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626330 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Since the only other pronouns in the English language are her, it or them. "He" was chosen.
Also, Jesus called him "father" which is synonymous with "he".
What pronoun would you give God?
Why did they not choose "she" or "her" for god?

How come god can't be a "she"? Or "it"?
Giving god a gender pronoun brings the god down to a human level.

Is god human?

Is god just a facsimile of the human male, specifically, the human WHITE male?

Would god being a black female make your brain blow up?

The Catholics just couldn't fathom picking a pope with black skin.

Also, anyone that "has a father" also has a mother.

Who is Jesus' mother?

Who's vagina did Jesus come out of?

Did god have a penis?

Who got Jesus' mother pregnant?
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626331 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I did not say that.
I did not write that six month old babies "ARE" manipulative, I wrote that they can be manipulative.
One little word make a big difference in the meaning of what someone's trying to say
BULLSH!T!

6-month-old babies DON'T KNOW HOW to be manipulative, let alone know what it means!

You're just coming up with any lame excuse to beat up on babies.

You're a PIG.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626332 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, I see.
To you, good=perfect.
Can't answer the question, eh?
Can't read, huh?

I did answer your question.

"According to YOUR STORY,'All was good and very good'." which means perfect.

Perfect is supposed to be "good", or are you currently residing in Bassackwardsville or something?

Death, war, hate, sickness, and poverty are NOT GOOD THINGS.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626333 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you thing the universe somehow created itself, explain how and why.
First explain why it would need to take "anyone" to create things, and who created that "someone".
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626334 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It did "NOT" happen, huh?
Wow, that's pretty bold.
How have you come by this tidbit of what you'd call knowledge?
Simple common sense would tell you that the story is nothing more than a magic tale.

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#626335 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Why did they not choose "she" or "her" for god?
How come god can't be a "she"? Or "it"?
Giving god a gender pronoun brings the god down to a human level.
Is god human?
Is god just a facsimile of the human male, specifically, the human WHITE male?
Would god being a black female make your brain blow up?
The Catholics just couldn't fathom picking a pope with black skin.
Also, anyone that "has a father" also has a mother.
Who is Jesus' mother?
Who's vagina did Jesus come out of?
Did god have a penis?
Who got Jesus' mother pregnant?
God is known as the Father, which isn't necessary a male.

But hey, did you call your dad a she?
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626336 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So you can't prove 1+1=2 so you talk shit.
Wonderful.
RMFE (Rolling my F*cking Eyes)

Are you BLIND?? He just DID!

What's wrong, can't add 1 and 1 together?

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#626337 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>BULLSH!T!
6-month-old babies DON'T KNOW HOW to be manipulative, let alone know what it means!
You're just coming up with any lame excuse to beat up on babies.
You're a PIG.
Ever see a 6 month (or so) baby lurch in his mother's arms? You know, quickly arch his back and fling his bead back?

Ever seen a 6 month (or so) baby throw her food off of the high chair because it's not ice cream?

When they do those sorts of things, that's manipulation. That's when it needs to be disciplined. No matter at what age.

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#626338 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Simple common sense would tell you that the story is nothing more than a magic tale.
Oh....

"Because it makes sense!"

LMAO!

Ok dude, ok.

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#626339 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Can't read, huh?
I did answer your question.
"According to YOUR STORY,'All was good and very good'." which means perfect.
Perfect is supposed to be "good", or are you currently residing in Bassackwardsville or something?
Death, war, hate, sickness, and poverty are NOT GOOD THINGS.
Good and perfect are not the same thing.

Very good and good are not the same thing.

Think, Sharkey, think.

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#626340 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>First explain why it would need to take "anyone" to create things, and who created that "someone".
No.

You claimed that the universe created itself, you explain how or why.

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#626341 May 25, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>RMFE (Rolling my F*cking Eyes)
Are you BLIND?? He just DID!
What's wrong, can't add 1 and 1 together?
The proof starts from the Peano Postulates, which define the natural numbers N. N is the smallest set satisfying these postulates:

P1. 1 is in N.
P2. If x is in N, then its "successor" x' is in N.
P3. There is no x such that x'= 1.
P4. If x isn't 1, then there is a y in N such that y'= x.
P5. If S is a subset of N, 1 is in S, and the implication
(x in S => x' in S) holds, then S = N.

Then you have to define addition recursively:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 1, then define a + b = a'
(using P1 and P2). If b isn't 1, then let c'= b, with c in N
(using P4), and define a + b =(a + c)'.

Then you have to define 2:
Def: 2 = 1'

2 is in N by P1, P2, and the definition of 2.

Theorem: 1 + 1 = 2

Proof: Use the first part of the definition of + with a = b = 1.
Then 1 + 1 = 1'= 2 Q.E.D.

Note: There is an alternate formulation of the Peano Postulates which
replaces 1 with 0 in P1, P3, P4, and P5. Then you have to change the
definition of addition to this:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 0, then define a + b = a.
If b isn't 0, then let c'= b, with c in N, and define
a + b =(a + c)'.

You also have to define 1 = 0', and 2 = 1'. Then the proof of the
Theorem above is a little different:

Proof: Use the second part of the definition of + first:
1 + 1 =(1 + 0)'
Now use the first part of the definition of + on the sum in
parentheses: 1 + 1 =(1)'= 1'= 2 Q.E.D.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626342 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*waits for some freethinking atheist to bitch at you because they claim one cannot 'believe' in evolution*
*and waits....*
*and waits....*
*and waits....*
You'll be waiting a long time for your phony scenario that will never come true because it's about the evidence for the belief rather than "the belief" itself.

Evolution is more feasible than "poof, god did it".

“Just a very naughty boy.”

Since: Dec 08

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#626343 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ever see a 6 month (or so) baby lurch in his mother's arms? You know, quickly arch his back and fling his bead back?
Ever seen a 6 month (or so) baby throw her food off of the high chair because it's not ice cream?
When they do those sorts of things, that's manipulation. That's when it needs to be disciplined. No matter at what age.
Shouldn't be giving a 6 month old baby ice cream.

That's not manipulation, it's pre-language engagement. A baby will let you know what it wants and when. I don't see why some dumb arse parent who chooses to give their baby ice cream should then discipline them when they request the ice cream in the only way they know how. Damn sugar is addictive stuff dude! In your example the parent would need discipline.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626344 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Good and perfect are not the same thing.
Very good and good are not the same thing.
Think, Sharkey, think.
Yes they are.

Good = good.

Simple as that.

Perfection is the ultimate good - otherwise we wouldn't strive so hard to be that way.

Death, sickness, poverty, war, and hatred are NOT "perfect".

These are major defects in your "god's creation".

And if you somehow think that defects are a good thing, you DO reside in Bassackwardsville.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#626345 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The proof starts from the Peano Postulates, which define the natural numbers N. N is the smallest set satisfying these postulates:
P1. 1 is in N.
P2. If x is in N, then its "successor" x' is in N.
P3. There is no x such that x'= 1.
P4. If x isn't 1, then there is a y in N such that y'= x.
P5. If S is a subset of N, 1 is in S, and the implication
(x in S => x' in S) holds, then S = N.
Then you have to define addition recursively:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 1, then define a + b = a'
(using P1 and P2). If b isn't 1, then let c'= b, with c in N
(using P4), and define a + b =(a + c)'.
Then you have to define 2:
Def: 2 = 1'
2 is in N by P1, P2, and the definition of 2.
Theorem: 1 + 1 = 2
Proof: Use the first part of the definition of + with a = b = 1.
Then 1 + 1 = 1'= 2 Q.E.D.
Note: There is an alternate formulation of the Peano Postulates which
replaces 1 with 0 in P1, P3, P4, and P5. Then you have to change the
definition of addition to this:
Def: Let a and b be in N. If b = 0, then define a + b = a.
If b isn't 0, then let c'= b, with c in N, and define
a + b =(a + c)'.
You also have to define 1 = 0', and 2 = 1'. Then the proof of the
Theorem above is a little different:
Proof: Use the second part of the definition of + first:
1 + 1 =(1 + 0)'
Now use the first part of the definition of + on the sum in
parentheses: 1 + 1 =(1)'= 1'= 2 Q.E.D.
Or, you could take 1 apple, not eat it, then get 1 more apple, and see how many you have after you got that other apple.

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