Prove there's a god.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#625820 May 22, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
In 2008 Richard E. Green et al. from Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany published the full sequence of Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and suggested "Neanderthals had a long-term effective population size smaller than that of modern humans."[71] Writing in Nature about Green et al.'s findings, James Morgan asserted the mtDNA sequence contained clues that Neanderthals lived in "small and isolated populations, and probably did not interbreed with their human neighbours."[72][73]
In the same publication, it was disclosed by Svante Pääbo that in the previous work at the Max Planck Institute that "Contamination was indeed an issue," and they eventually realized that 11% of their sample was modern human DNA.[74][75] Since then, more of the preparation work has been done in clean areas and 4-base pair 'tags' have been added to the DNA as soon as it is extracted so the Neanderthal DNA can be identified.
With 3 billion nucleotides sequenced, analysis of about ⅓ showed no sign of admixture between modern humans and Neanderthals, according to Pääbo. This concurred with the work of Noonan from two years earlier. The variant of microcephalin common outside Africa, which was suggested to be of Neanderthal origin and responsible for rapid brain growth in humans, was not found in Neanderthals. Nor was the MAPT variant, a very old variant found primarily in Europeans.[74]
However, an analysis of a first draft of the Neanderthal genome by the same team released in May 2010 indicates interbreeding may have occurred.[13][14] "Those of us who live outside Africa carry a little Neanderthal DNA in us," said Pääbo, who led the study. "The proportion of Neanderthal-inherited genetic material is about 1 to 4 percent. It is a small but very real proportion of ancestry in non-Africans today," says Dr. David Reich of Harvard Medical School, who worked on the study. This research compared the genome of the Neanderthals to five modern humans from China, France, sub-Saharan Africa, and Papua New Guinea. The finding is that about 1 to 4 percent of the genes of the non-Africans came from Neanderthals, compared to the baseline defined by the two Africans.[13]
This indicates a gene flow from Neanderthals to modern humans, i.e., interbreeding between the two populations. Since the three non-African genomes show a similar proportion of Neanderthal sequences, the interbreeding must have occurred early in the migration of modern humans out of Africa, perhaps in the Middle East. No evidence for gene flow in the direction from modern humans to Neanderthals was found. Gene flow from modern humans to Neanderthals would not be expected if contact occurred between a small colonizing population of modern humans and a much larger resident population of Neanderthals. A very limited amount of interbreeding could explain the findings, if it occurred early enough in the colonization process.[13]
While interbreeding is viewed as the most parsimonious interpretation of the genetic discoveries, the authors point out they cannot conclusively rule out an alternative scenario, in which the source population of non-African modern humans was already more closely related to Neanderthals than other Africans were, due to ancient genetic divisions within Africa.[13]
Among the genes shown to differ between present-day humans and Neanderthals were RPTN, SPAG17, CAN15, TTF1 and PCD16.[13]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal
You know this means that the connection to other Homo species is made. If we were a special creation of God we would not be carrying the genes/blood of, and able to interbreed with non-human Neanderthals. We came out of Africa and are the hominids that won.

Our ancestors are those of the Homo genus; Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-erectus, Homo-habilis, Homo-rhodesiensis, Etc.

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#625821 May 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Lol. I didn't just make that up though... they've actually researched it.
Top 10 smartest people in the world.
(They're gorgeous)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/...

http://www.catalogs.com/info/bestof/top-10-sm...

HA HA HA !!!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625822 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>But you won't share said "tons" of evidence..?

Imagine that.
Why?

You would ignore it anyway.

You're a waste of time.

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#625823 May 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think you think that. But that's what it is, in my humble opinion. Why is it that our gods seem to so closely share our views on such a wide range of subjects? These universe spanning, unfathomable beings that we have thought up, and they all seem to have a profound interest in our genetalia and the use thereof, as well as other assorted oddities that have no business bouncing around in an infinite being's brain. I wonder...
A "profound interest in our genitalia"?!

What?

Where do you people come up with this crap, really?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625824 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Nope. I wrote that in the past.

We are never in the future, dipstick.
Now?

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#625825 May 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, Yeah, you made it even worse.
I did, lol

Shu'up.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625826 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Sure can. But first you'll have to show evidence that the Catholic Church is....

...more concerned about preventing contraception than preventing child rape

...more concerned about preventing gay marriage than genocide

I'm sure you have tons of evidence......
Yup.

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#625827 May 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It's not pretty clear. Nothing in the bible is pretty clear. That's why you guys can't even agree on anything.
Ok, dude. Ok.

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#625828 May 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
If we were a special creation of God we would not be carrying the genes/blood of, and able to interbreed with non-human Neanderthals.
Huh.... How have you come by this astounding information?

Has it been observed, repeated and peer reviewed?

Or is it perhaps just your opinion?

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#625829 May 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Why?
You would ignore it anyway.
You're a waste of time.
You're lying.

You have zero evidence.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#625830 May 22, 2013
What_You_Talkin_Bout wrote:
<quoted text> I'm sorry but win what? and facts? really? there is some proof in history, for every religion but its not always 100% true. lol im sorry but that part makes me smile, "and we're going to win" lol like it's a game. but you know what, i respect that you defend what you believe because in reality that's all we have, faith, no one can take it from anyone. anyways i just wanna say im trying to stop this now so just believe what you want and let's not start something because of what we believe, it just starts war and shit
We win the war over 'Is There A God Or Not' its looking more and more like Yahweh/Jehovah is the God(s) that wasn't.

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#625831 May 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup.
Lying doesn't suit you very well, Aero.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#625832 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
How could Harris remove choice?
There are researchers who claim that religious "feelings" or thoughts, arise from a particular area in the brain.

http://atheistempire.com/reference/brain/main...

Harris has mentioned that he would like to delete that part from the brains of "liars"(Christians). He has mentioned "chemical lobotomy" and genetic manipulation as his preferred means to erase their ability to "lie".

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#625833 May 22, 2013
crap

http://atheistempire.com/reference/brain/main...

It better take this time.

:-/

“I see quantum effects”

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#625834 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You're lying.

You have zero evidence.
Whatever.

You would ignore it and you know it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625835 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Lying doesn't suit you very well, Aero.
That's why I don't do it much.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#625837 May 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW!, and I thought Christian theology was crazy weird. What do you call your brand of wackiness??
The Ministry of Truth (1984 by George Orwell), susanblangeism. "...and it cast down the truth to the ground and it practiced and prospered. Daniel 8:12

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#625838 May 22, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
crap
http://atheistempire.com/reference/brain/main...
It better take this time.
:-/
NOW it shows?!!! wtf...

teh kitteh mifftifyd

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#625839 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit, that's NOT what I meant. That's just how you two took it.
What christians did during the crusades IS ancient history, literally.
I NEVER implied that it should be ignored or forgotten, just that you can't compare modern Christians to ancient Christians.
You two took it as the slang "that's ancient history", suggesting that it's meaningless.
I can't help your stupidity.
that is how you ment it you liar.

but it does not matter how far in the past, it is a glaring example of the effects of christian belief. Today most christians will tell me that I deserve eternal torture for my philosophy because it does not include belief in their deity. This wishes me more harm than the mere temporary torture of the christian led Inquisition, and proves that christians have not gained amy morals.

You personally are a Prevaricator, not to be trusted in the slightest.

You are such an excellent example of christianity.

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#625840 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Recent? 2,000 years ago, people were voluntarily becoming Christian. They risked their lives, literally, to follow the teachings of Jesus. Is that "RECENT"?
Nope.
that is rumor circulated by the church, and as such unbelievable.

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