Prove there's a god.

Since: May 11

Edinburgh, UK

#625951 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>What's the big deal?
If you readily know off the top of your head of some Christian morals which are not secular morals, what's the big deal in posting them?
In the meantime, you are guilty of not following AT LEAST one those Christian morals:
"Paul is clear about this in Ephesians 4:29:
“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.”
This would include telling dirty jokes, making off-color remarks, and making lewd or lascivious gestures. These are all considered sin by biblical standards. These are not gray areas. It is wrong to use profane language, calling someone names, and even using euphemisms.
Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/chris...
Now is your cue to tell me I don't understand that bit of scripture and that it really doesn't apply to YOU.
Of course, it really does.
Go.
...you need to read all of the new testament in the greek, aramaic and the latin vulgate to put that passage into the right context to be able to understand it and if it doesn`t support his position...it was mistranslated.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625952 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such a God damned liar.
And yes, you FOOL- you HAVE said here that there is no other way to discipline a 6 month old baby other than by spanking them.

What your addled brain doesn't GET is that 6 month old babies do NOTHING deserving of being disciplined and certainly not having anyone strike them.

Of course, you could write a book on how to be a bad parent- you could devote an entire chapter to keeping a loaded gun in the bedroom of teenagers.

Ugh- you are so sickening- that it is YOU who is the god damned liar is the LEAST of your myriad of problems.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625953 May 23, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...you need to read all of the new testament in the greek, aramaic and the latin vulgate to put that passage into the right context to be able to understand it and if it doesn`t support his position...it was mistranslated.
ROFFLMAO!!

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625954 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such a God damned liar.
So what kind of Christian curses AND takes their god's name in vain?

At best, someone who is not a GOOD Christian.

At worst, someone who is not a Christian at ALL.

In your case, you prove yet again that the latter applies to you.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625955 May 23, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...you need to read all of the new testament in the greek, aramaic and the latin vulgate to put that passage into the right context to be able to understand it and if it doesn`t support his position...it was mistranslated.
It's HILARIOUS that RR cursed and took his god's name in vain right before my post to him about cursing not being acceptable among Christians or at least among those who truly do believe in the bible and who follow the commands of the god of the bible.

HILARIOUS!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#625956 May 23, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, a crash course in it, is by far what is needed to understand the method and meaning of it.. It serves a major role in the pharmaceutical, agriculture as well as the study of DNA and genes, etc etc.
Im not discredting "biogenetics" science in general, and it's useful methods. It's the method of those scientist which use biogenetics to try and prove Darwin's theory of evolution from his soup bowl..
Thanks again for responding!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#625957 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
See, that's the thing. I DID respond, three times I think.
I gave examples of some Christian morals that are not secular morals.
This is why I said I didn't feel like re-re-re-reposting....
Stating different "morals" wasn't answering the question.

The question still remains - what is the difference between Christian morals and non-Christian "societal" morals?

Listing different morals only shows that some people classify them as spearate and different. Okay, fine, but it still doesn't explain how they are different, why they are different, and who authorizes the differences as pertinent.

You see RR - just because you think they are different, doesn't justify that they are, except only in your eyes.

It's like the Clown poster claiming to be "annointed". Yeah right, anyone can bath themselves in virgin olive oil and smile - all the while, claiming to be special.

Your version is lacking credibility.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#625958 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
What's the big deal?
If you readily know off the top of your head of some Christian morals which are not secular morals, what's the big deal in posting them?


I DID post them. Ugh...
In the meantime, you are guilty of not following AT LEAST one those Christian morals:
"Paul is clear about this in Ephesians 4:29:
“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.”
This would include telling dirty jokes, making off-color remarks, and making lewd or lascivious gestures. These are all considered sin by biblical standards. These are not gray areas. It is wrong to use profane language, calling someone names, and even using euphemisms.
Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/chris...
Now is your cue to tell me I don't understand that bit of scripture and that it really doesn't apply to YOU.
Of course, it really does.
Go.
Nope. I'm gonna tell you that what is "dirty jokes, making off-color remarks, and making lewd or lascivious gestures" is extremely relative.

But hey, nice try.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#625959 May 23, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I'd consider doing Gary.
lol! into little things? or is that the other way around?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#625960 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Spanking IS hitting. That is a fact. No way around that.
And I've pointed that out to you numerous times already.
And yes- ANY form of hitting IS violent behavior and certainly if done without the consent of the person being spanked (HIT).
And ANY form of physical punishment visited upon BABIES is CRIMINAL.
Of course, no less criminal than your moronic notion that 6 month old babies actually need to be and should be "disciplined".
Not is your cue to tell me I don't have a clue because I am not a parent.
Of course, I DO have a clue and one need not be a parent to know that hitting/spanking/pinching/slap ping 6 month old BABIES is totally inexcusable.
It isn't criminal behavior to spank a child.

If you doubt me, look up CA law yourself.

The rest if your post is pure opinion and not factual.

If you had kids, you probably wouldn't spank them.

I have kids and have spanked them.

Does that make me better than you or you better than me?

No.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#625961 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Oops! You just violated one of those Christian morals, RR. Cursing AND taking your god's name in vain- tsk, tsk.
Lol, ok. You just showed your ignorance on "taking the lords name in vain"....
Nope- I am NOT a liar.
Ok, well you DO lie. And quite frequently.
That was the example YOU first used in your sick attempt to justify hitting a 6 month old baby- that if the baby was crying or fussing for no reason- meaning the baby was dry, warm, fed, not sick, etc.
Negative. I never said that, you're lying.

I never said "crying for no reason", in my example the reason was the kid was being a brat and wanted attention.

IF you were a mom, you'd understand.
YOU said they would be crying to try and manipulate their parents and to interrupt their mommy and daddy trying to have a quiet dinner.
You are SO full of utter SH*T, RR.
You think that because you've never done it. Period.
And I am SICK of having to remind you of what you yourself have said here.
Go get tested for early senility or something....it's painfully obvious that you are losing functioning brain cells at an alarming rate.
Will do, boss.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625962 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I DID post them. Ugh...
<quoted text>
Nope. I'm gonna tell you that what is "dirty jokes, making off-color remarks, and making lewd or lascivious gestures" is extremely relative.
But hey, nice try.
According to your bible, it is NOT relative at all.

My GOD!!! You have the morals of a retarded SNAIL, RR- if for no other reason than how you try to twist the bible to justify your own very anti-Christian behavior and demeanor.

UGH.

Now- so you already posted them- so the F*CK what???

Why can't you post them again???

What's the matter- you FORGOT what are Christian morals but which are not secular morals?

STFU- you're SO full of it- such a phony bologna is what you are.

PFFT.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#625963 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:

What your addled brain doesn't GET is that 6 month old babies do NOTHING deserving of being disciplined and certainly not having anyone strike them.
*rolls eyes*

Taking parenting advice from you is like taking auto repair advice from someone who's never worked on cars.

Or sex advice from a virgin.

Or gun shooting advice from a person who's never shot a gun.

Leave it alone. You're parentally ignorant.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625964 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't criminal behavior to spank a child.
If you doubt me, look up CA law yourself.
The rest if your post is pure opinion and not factual.
If you had kids, you probably wouldn't spank them.
I have kids and have spanked them.
Does that make me better than you or you better than me?
No.
I was talking about BABIES- do you not know the distinction between a 6 month old BABY and a 6 year old CHILD??

I don't give a rat's Aunt Fanny about what the law says- where is YOUR sense of morality that you think it fine and dandy to strike a 6 month old BABY??

When I said it was "criminal", I was not using that in the legal sense of the word- you couldn't grasp that? Pathetic.

One thing I know for certain is that I would NEVER raise a hand to a 6 month old baby- UNLESS- it was to prevent the baby from injuring themselves or someone else- a VERY unlikely scenario and one that would definitely be an exception.

Would I maybe spank a 6 year old CHILD? MAYBE. But most likely not- I don't believe in visiting violence upon ADULTS- let alone CHILDREN.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#625965 May 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Stating different "morals" wasn't answering the question.
The question still remains - what is the difference between Christian morals and non-Christian "societal" morals?
Listing different morals only shows that some people classify them as spearate and different. Okay, fine, but it still doesn't explain how they are different, why they are different, and who authorizes the differences as pertinent.
You see RR - just because you think they are different, doesn't justify that they are, except only in your eyes.
It's like the Clown poster claiming to be "annointed". Yeah right, anyone can bath themselves in virgin olive oil and smile - all the while, claiming to be special.
Your version is lacking credibility.
Oh, I see.

If I post a link to a blog or a website that agrees, then it has some credibility?

Why? It'd just be more people's opinions....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625966 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, ok. You just showed your ignorance on "taking the lords name in vain"....
<quoted text>
Ok, well you DO lie. And quite frequently.
<quoted text>
Negative. I never said that, you're lying.
I never said "crying for no reason", in my example the reason was the kid was being a brat and wanted attention.
IF you were a mom, you'd understand.
<quoted text>
You think that because you've never done it. Period.
<quoted text>
Will do, boss.
No- I do NOT lie- not at ALL and so certainly not frequently.

That you claim I do makes you the liar you've already proven yourself to be countless times over on this thread.

Yes- you DID say that.

You're sick to say that a 6 month old baby is a BRAT. And uh.....6 month old babies are SUPPOSED to have attention.

No- I don't need to be a mother to understand that.

Just like I don't need to be a Christian to know that:

YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625967 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
*rolls eyes*
Taking parenting advice from you is like taking auto repair advice from someone who's never worked on cars.
Or sex advice from a virgin.
Or gun shooting advice from a person who's never shot a gun.
Leave it alone. You're parentally ignorant.
At least I have the excuse of NOT being a parent.

What's YOUR excuse for YOUR parental ignorance?

And taking advice from YOU about Christianity is like taking advice from a BUDDHIST about JUDAISM.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625968 May 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
*rolls eyes*
Taking parenting advice from you is like taking auto repair advice from someone who's never worked on cars.
Or sex advice from a virgin.
Or gun shooting advice from a person who's never shot a gun.
Leave it alone. You're parentally ignorant.
I see. So if I ever see anyone abusing a child, striking them repeatedly and being physically abusive I should just look away, huh?

If I suspect a neighbor of child neglect and with reason- such as if I saw a kid wandering down the sidewalk at 11 at night- I should just mind my business, huh?

I mean- after all, I'm not a parent, so I wouldn't "understand".

You're a moron.
soooo

Somerset, KY

#625969 May 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>At least I have the excuse of NOT being a parent.
What's YOUR excuse for YOUR parental ignorance?
And taking advice from YOU about Christianity is like taking advice from a BUDDHIST about JUDAISM.
Curious.

What is your belief in this world of gods of many choices?

Which one have you chosen to be yours?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625970 May 23, 2013
soooo wrote:
<quoted text>
Curious.
What is your belief in this world of gods of many choices?
Which one have you chosen to be yours?
If anything, my beliefs tend to align with those of Deism.

I very strongly tend to believe a god exists, but of course, I would never present that belief as fact, since it is not fact.

At any rate, any god I believe might exist is not the god of ANY organized religion.

And the belief of Deism is that god is passive and does not interfere in any way in the course of human or worldly events although that god does observe but that is really all.

Thanks for asking.

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