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KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, ancient is a relative concept of measurement, one that always changes. That means you cannot believe in ancient because it is always changing.
Scientific circular reasoning.

Ugh...

But you are correct.

IMO, the Dark Ages is ancient.

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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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What is the difference between "Christian morality" and normal societal "morality"?
Meaning, how are the morals derived by people within Christianity different than that of non-Christians?
Go.
"the pursuit of God's goodness by people 'on the way' to a city not built by human hands. It is not a precise science but the cultivation of practical wisdom that comes from diverse sources. It draws on all that is good in God's creation and among the nations. But it also acknowledges that creatures cannot attain their true end without the gift of God's own goodness."

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Secular morals don't encompass any Christian morals. And vice versa.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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None.
None?!

A clear & well known Christian moral that is NOT secular is having sex outside of marriage.

There are many.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, but Christian morals and secular morals can be quite different.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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:P I am always right, not really, but it's all cool.
So-called christians think that their morals are different than ethics too.
You aren't right.

Unless you can find a secular moral that says you can have only one God....

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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Wait a minute. There isn't any at all???
That's not fair.
- so-called "Christians" always think their morals are better, since they came from the Bible.
- so-called "Christians" always are admonishing others for not doing the same as they
- so-called "Christians" always know what is true and what is not
Well according to these three qualifiers, are you sure you are right??
I think you are.
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Who are all these so-called "Christians" you're talking about?

I've known many & I've never known one that thinks Christian morals are "better", just different - Christian.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Scientific circular reasoning.
Ugh...
But you are correct.
IMO, the Dark Ages is ancient.
If this was a joke, discard this response.

You need to learn what circular reasoning means. Here's an example:

1. The bible says god exists.

2. Thus god exists.

3. Thus the bible is true.

Pointing out that something is relative, in other words subjective, is not circular.
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Because nothing in science supports a "young Earth." Most of our science demonstrates 1 billion year old planet, even anthropology shows humans existed way more than 6,000 years.
Modern man (homo sapiens) are about 6000 years old. Neanderthals existed before that. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is much older. The earth was also "renewed" by Noahs' flood.
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xianity is EVIL wrote:
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unsuported ASSertion fallacy
you know what that makes you!?
Yes, smarter than you.

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We were talking about Christianity, not the human race. Dipshit.
And in terms of the scope of how old the human race is, 2,000 years ago is really not "ancient".

Hence the expressions: "the big picture" and "the grand scheme of things", dipsy doodle.

And what other beings would practice Christianity other than HUMANS?

DUH.

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Who are all these so-called "Christians" you're talking about?
I've known many & I've never known one that thinks Christian morals are "better", just different - Christian.
OMG- your pal "wasssup" on this thread, for one- of MANY.

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None?!
A clear & well known Christian moral that is NOT secular is having sex outside of marriage.
There are many.
I'm not saying one is better than the other, but Christian morals and secular morals can be quite different.
Mostly because much of what is considered to be "moral" by many (so-called) Christians is anything BUT moral by ANYONE else's standards.

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<quoted text>Modern man (homo sapiens) are about 6000 years old. Neanderthals existed before that. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is much older. The earth was also "renewed" by Noahs' flood.
LOL!!!! 6,000 years old???

Try AT LEAST 200,000 years old.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Ancient history is the study of the written past from the beginning of recorded human history to the Early Middle Ages."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_histor...
HA !
Oh- then it MUST be true.

<rolling eyes.....>

What about history PRIOR to it being written? Such as cave drawings?

What would you call THAT?? "REALLY" ancient history?

Pfft.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1000 years from now, our descendents will undoubtedly be saying the same thing about us.
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Yes I know.
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See: God Particle.
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No, HOW is that? And do you have any basis for that accusation?
Did you know that scientists have proven we Homo-sapiens successfully mated with Homo-Neanderthalensis thereby proving our kinship with the great ape family?

We are indeed related to earlier hominids such as Homo-erectus, Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-habilis, etc, etc.

The Homo-sapiens race started about 200,000 years ago.

Did you know this?

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Whatever"?!
Oh... What an amazing comeback.
No STUPID, here is the comeback:

"She wipes the floor with you daily, sub-twit."

And that does happen to be the truth.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Since I know there is no academic consensus defining religious fanaticism, I'll take your post & wipe my ass with it.
LOL! i have a sneaking suspicion that 'huh' is a for real hottie;)

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KittenKoder wrote:
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If this was a joke, discard this response.
You need to learn what circular reasoning means. Here's an example:
1. The bible says god exists.
2. Thus god exists.
3. Thus the bible is true.
Pointing out that something is relative, in other words subjective, is not circular.
I'm sorry that you only see circular reasoning when debating Christianity.

I'm sure you know, but circular reasoning is when the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end up with.

In this case, it was "ancient".

OCB & Mac's reasoning is that ancient means really old, but only as old as they deem it, to suit their argument that the crusades isn't an ancient part of our history.

So. Start with "the crusades isn't ancient" and you'll likely arrive at a definition for 'ancient' that suits the argument.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"the pursuit of God's goodness by people 'on the way' to a city not built by human hands. It is not a precise science but the cultivation of practical wisdom that comes from diverse sources. It draws on all that is good in God's creation and among the nations. But it also acknowledges that creatures cannot attain their true end without the gift of God's own goodness."
D. Stephen Long
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Secular morals don't encompass any Christian morals. And vice versa.
"D. Stephen Long" isn't "God", so I am not sure his opinion is true. Besides, it didn't answer my question.

Please stay focused.

With your use of this citation, it makes me think that this is your best source. Is it? If not, please provide a specific source that states "Christian morality" is different than non-Christian morality.

Why?

What does "Steven" have over Jesus or the HS?

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Who are all these so-called "Christians" you're talking about?
I've known many & I've never known one that thinks Christian morals are "better", just different - Christian.
Of course you want to back-peddle, it is understandable when one realizes that there are no differences.

Own the mistake and move on.

*sighs*

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<quoted text>Modern man (homo sapiens) are about 6000 years old. Neanderthals existed before that. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is much older. The earth was also "renewed" by Noahs' flood.
Um, no, you are completely wrong.

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