Prove there's a god.

“Ditat Deus”

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#625472 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
A fair statement. I agree (wow).
Lemme ask ya, what Christians are killing for Christianity?
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text> Christians DO want to kill for Christianity - they just don't want to get their hands dirty doing it anymore, they would rather that God do their killing FOR them.
It's passive-aggressive warfare. Psychological. With your religion, humanity will talk itself right off the edge of self-extinction.
Um, ok. That's your opinion. But do you have any facts to back up your opinion?

What Christians are killing FOR Christianity?

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#625473 May 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I couldn't resist, it's just your description sounded exactly like that....lol
Catcher broke up with me, man. It's no laughing matter...

:)

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625474 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Adam & Eve never existed?!
Prove that they did.

And now we go for another round of RR's sophomoric and totally inane nonsense of: Prove they didn't.

So that you seem shocked at the notion that Adam and Eve never existed and assuming your shock is genuine and that you are not yet attempting (and failing) at being clever, this tells me you really are fool enough to believe the first man was created from dirt with the first woman having been created from a rib of the first man.

What other fairy tales do you like, RR?

"Cinderella" is my personal favorite and as outlandish as that fairy tale is, it is WAY more believable than is the fairy tale of Adam and Eve.

Oh- it has a much happier ending as well for Cinderella and the prince than was the case for Adam and Eve who certainly didn't live "happily ever after".

If you truly believe such utter bilge as the FAIRY TALE of Adam and Eve, there truly is no hope for you for that would seal the deal on just how hopeless, helpless and hapless you truly are.

OCB

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#625475 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Twain was wrong about that.
Faith is simply a complete trust in something.
Okay.....then how about this?

Faith is believing what you know can't be proven to be true.

And that IS what faith is. If faith could be proven to be true, one would have FACTS and would not need faith to back up those facts.

Faith is based on what we WISH is true and what we WANT to be true; faith is NOT based on what IS true.

Sorry for your luck.

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#625476 May 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
You have the right to remain stupid.
Yes, but not the ability.

OCB

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#625477 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh... Hey... There's 6...
There's an exception to every rule.
Huh asked you at the end of her post if you needed more and of course, there are many more examples of woman who are beautiful AND intelligent.....

I admire Huh for spending her time having posted 6 examples for you- I won't waste my time on a woman-hating fool such as you truly are posting some of those many examples......you are a sickening MORON to think that a woman can't be beautiful AND intelligent when the world is FULL of women who are just that- the whole package- beauty AND brains.

Just because a woman who possesses BOTH would never give YOU the time of day doesn't mean those women don't exist or that those women don't exist in everyday life.

Frankly, I don't think you've ever been with a woman who possessed beauty OR brains so I can understand why you are so stupid as to think there is no way there are any woman who possess BOTH when you've most likely never been with a woman who possessed EITHER.

Still, whatever the reason or reasons, your misogyny is well beyond simply sickening and really is incredibly disgusting.

“Ditat Deus”

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#625478 May 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No. I love the language, and use as much of it as sounds well to me.
Well, I gotta admit, "nigh on a..." sounds pretty cool.

OCB

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#625479 May 22, 2013
Oops! ".....many more examples of *women*....."

“Ditat Deus”

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#625480 May 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps not. But it'll give you a much-needed sense of scale.
Scale?

Comparing humanity's ancient history to the universe's is no scale.

“Ditat Deus”

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#625481 May 22, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Prove that they did.
Hold the phone.

Chirp, chirp, chirp.

Dude-man claimed "Adam and Eve never existed", a positive claim.

I'd like to see his evidence.

OCB

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#625482 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold the phone.
Chirp, chirp, chirp.
Dude-man claimed "Adam and Eve never existed", a positive claim.
I'd like to see his evidence.
GAWD- you're so tediously predictable!!

Like I said, the old RR- prove they didn't.

That you worded it somewhat differently doesn't negate how INANE it is- and YOU are- with your "I'd like to see evidence".

PFFT.

I'D like to see evidence that your brain is truly functioning; that you obviously believe the CRAP about Adam and Eve is a good indication of just how few working brain cells you actually possess.

OCB

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#625483 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I gotta admit, "nigh on a..." sounds pretty cool.
It would probably sound even cooler to you if you knew what "nigh" meant.....assuming you haven't already googled it.

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#625484 May 22, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Okay.....then how about this?
Faith is believing what you know can't be proven to be true.
And that IS what faith is. If faith could be proven to be true, one would have FACTS and would not need faith to back up those facts.
Faith is based on what we WISH is true and what we WANT to be true; faith is NOT based on what IS true.
Sorry for your luck.
Tell me, what exactly *has* been proven beyond any and all doubt?

We all put faith in our reasoning(that 1+1=2) observations(which are optical illusions), in our memories and knowledge. We put faith in theory and the scientific method.

Why are you sorry?

Since: May 11

UK

#625485 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh geez....
So the child being 'forced' to eat broccoli is also not voluntary....
The CHOICE of being a Christian or not IS voluntary.
belief is not an act of will, belief is unconscious, one believes or one doesn`t, I cannot be made to believe in something where my threshold of credulity has to be stretched in order to believe it. I would simply be lying to myself. One cannot voluntarily believe anything.

...and an omniscient god would know this.

Don`t you think your god would accept honest unbelief before dishonest belief? Yes I know I`m paraphrasing Russell.

“Ditat Deus”

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#625486 May 22, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>GAWD- you're so tediously predictable!!
Like I said, the old RR- prove they didn't.
Then why is it when a poster comes on here and says "prove there isn't a god", you give a dissertation to them about proving a negative..

Don't get all hypocritical in me, OCB.

He said "Adam and Eve don't exist", it's HIS claim. The onus is on HIM, not me.

OCB

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#625487 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why is it when a poster comes on here and says "prove there isn't a god", you give a dissertation to them about proving a negative..
Don't get all hypocritical in me, OCB.
He said "Adam and Eve don't exist", it's HIS claim. The onus is on HIM, not me.
You are asking for evidence of what is NOT- that being his claim that Adam and Eve never existed.

One cannot provide evidence of what is NOT- only that which IS has evidence to back it up.

So.....in as much as you have stated that Santa Claus does NOT exist, I guess that means that the onus is on YOU to back up YOUR claim.

Now- do tell- just HOW would you go about providing EVIDENCE that there is no Santa Claus?

OCB

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#625488 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, what exactly *has* been proven beyond any and all doubt?
We all put faith in our reasoning(that 1+1=2) observations(which are optical illusions), in our memories and knowledge. We put faith in theory and the scientific method.
Why are you sorry?
I'm sorry for YOU.

And sorrier still that you ask such moronic questions as the first one in this post of yours to which I am responding.

Feh.

OCB

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#625489 May 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why is it when a poster comes on here and says "prove there isn't a god", you give a dissertation to them about proving a negative..
Don't get all hypocritical in me, OCB.
He said "Adam and Eve don't exist", it's HIS claim. The onus is on HIM, not me.
And no dipsy doodle-

Someone is accused of having committed a crime. He says he didn't do it. The accuser does NOT ask him to PROVE he didn't do it; rather, the onus is on the accuser to prove that he DID.

YOU want to claim that Adam and Eve existed? The onus is on YOU to prove it.

What is NOT never has to be proven; only what IS requires proof.

OCB

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#625490 May 22, 2013
Sorry- should be: "And no, dipsy doodle-"

Forgot the comma the first time.
Yahchanan

Piedmont, OK

#625491 May 22, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion can be blind and dead. The Anti-Christ will seem to be a religious person. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there first come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
It is easier for religious people to revolt and rebel against God because they are not sealed by his spirit. We are baptized into the family of God by his spirit. Thus He (Spirit) directs us towards God. This is the personal relationship that becomes established. It is a wonderful thing to know God. It is even more wonderful when God knows us. He can only recognize his own if the Holy Spirit resides in us.
Isaiah 65:5 "who say, Keep away; don't come near me, for I am too scared for you! Such people are smoke in my nostrils, a fire that keeps burning all day."
Religion==== is a practice of rituals and ceremonials which can easily stifle the move of the spirit. Religion does not normally invite the Spirit of God but rather religion seeks its own. Mark 7:3 "For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the traditions of the elders." Religion practices the doctrine and commandments of men, laying aside the commandments of God. In rejecting God's commandments they make the Word of God of none effect.
Matthew 23:23 "Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."
Religion is formalism====. Galatians 4:10_11 ye observe days, and months and times and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain."
Religion=== wants to be seen by others. Matthew 6:5 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they might be seen of men.(Titus 1:16, 1 John 6:46)(Ecc 5:1)
Religion=== is formalism, people ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:5 "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." The reason that they deny the power of God is because they have not tasted it. Only through the Spirit of God can one partake of the power of God. Never having experienced the baptism in the Holy Spirit these are people who feel that through works alone they can achieve a eternal reward.(Ezekiel 33:31-32)
P23;writes.. See the difference huh?
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A """"" relationship""" "" with God is only possible because of what Jesus done by his life, death and resurrection. John 1:1-3 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Fathers' house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself: that where I am, there ye may be also." If we read on we will see that more promises are given to his followers. John 1:15-21. "If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

While the world awaits he to sit in the holy of holys and to declare himself god not going to be where you think there are more then one Jerusalem.the world has been lied to.

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