Prove there's a god.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#625259 May 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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If this was a joke, discard this response.
You need to learn what circular reasoning means. Here's an example:
1. The bible says god exists.
2. Thus god exists.
3. Thus the bible is true.
Pointing out that something is relative, in other words subjective, is not circular.
I'm sorry that you only see circular reasoning when debating Christianity.

I'm sure you know, but circular reasoning is when the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end up with.

In this case, it was "ancient".

OCB & Mac's reasoning is that ancient means really old, but only as old as they deem it, to suit their argument that the crusades isn't an ancient part of our history.

So. Start with "the crusades isn't ancient" and you'll likely arrive at a definition for 'ancient' that suits the argument.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#625260 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"the pursuit of God's goodness by people 'on the way' to a city not built by human hands. It is not a precise science but the cultivation of practical wisdom that comes from diverse sources. It draws on all that is good in God's creation and among the nations. But it also acknowledges that creatures cannot attain their true end without the gift of God's own goodness."
D. Stephen Long
====
Secular morals don't encompass any Christian morals. And vice versa.
"D. Stephen Long" isn't "God", so I am not sure his opinion is true. Besides, it didn't answer my question.

Please stay focused.

With your use of this citation, it makes me think that this is your best source. Is it? If not, please provide a specific source that states "Christian morality" is different than non-Christian morality.

Why?

What does "Steven" have over Jesus or the HS?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#625261 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who are all these so-called "Christians" you're talking about?
I've known many & I've never known one that thinks Christian morals are "better", just different - Christian.
Of course you want to back-peddle, it is understandable when one realizes that there are no differences.

Own the mistake and move on.

*sighs*

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#625262 May 21, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Modern man (homo sapiens) are about 6000 years old. Neanderthals existed before that. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is much older. The earth was also "renewed" by Noahs' flood.
Um, no, you are completely wrong.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#625263 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who are all these so-called "Christians" you're talking about?
I've known many & I've never known one that thinks Christian morals are "better", just different - Christian.
Okay - so now you change the qualifiers.

Not a problem.

Please state five so-called "Christian" morals that are "just different" than that of a non-Christian.

Go.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#625264 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm sorry that you only see circular reasoning when debating Christianity.
I'm sure you know, but circular reasoning is when the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end up with.
In this case, it was "ancient".
OCB & Mac's reasoning is that ancient means really old, but only as old as they deem it, to suit their argument that the crusades isn't an ancient part of our history.
So. Start with "the crusades isn't ancient" and you'll likely arrive at a definition for 'ancient' that suits the argument.
Fine, demonstrate how saying that "ancient" is relative and subjective is circular logic.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#625265 May 21, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>And in terms of the scope of how old the human race is, 2,000 years ago is really not "ancient".
Hence the expressions: "the big picture" and "the grand scheme of things", dipsy doodle.
And what other beings would practice Christianity other than HUMANS?
DUH.
Never mind, fucktard. You're hopeless.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#625266 May 21, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Mostly because much of what is considered to be "moral" by many (so-called) Christians is anything BUT moral by ANYONE else's standards.
That's not true. A lot of American laws are based on Christian laws and morals and a lot of people, religious and secular, follow them and agree to them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#625267 May 21, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Did you know that scientists have proven we Homo-sapiens successfully mated with Homo-Neanderthalensis thereby proving our kinship with the great ape family?
HA HA !!!!!

OCB would call that a "REALLY ancient porno"...
We are indeed related to earlier hominids such as Homo-erectus, Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-habilis, etc, etc.
The Homo-sapiens race started about 200,000 years ago.
Did you know this?
Yes, I've heard that.

But like I've said before, I generally don't trust what science "knows" about things like this.

They've been wrong countless times before.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#625268 May 21, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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LOL! i have a sneaking suspicion that 'huh' is a for real hottie;)
Nope.

"For real" hotties are stupid. Huh is not.

Plus, a hottie wouldn't waste time on a stupid thread...

IMO

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#625269 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
"For real" hotties are stupid. Huh is not.
Plus, a hottie wouldn't waste time on a stupid thread...
IMO
you make some good points, but she got a bit personal with me about her sex-life and figure and now she won't even talk to me anymore:(
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#625270 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Aw... You're a sweetheart.
Yeah...You're so sugary I could vomit.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625271 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nope.
"For real" hotties are stupid. Huh is not.
Plus, a hottie wouldn't waste time on a stupid thread...
IMO
Pathetic. Just pathetic that you can't imagine a "for real" hottie being intelligent and having or making the time to post on a "stupid" thread.

It's called "beauty AND brains"- and it's too bad for you that it's obvious that in your experience with women, you've never known one who had both who would give you the time of day.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#625272 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Never mind, fucktard. You're hopeless.
"Amazing" comeback, oh witless one.....you are not only hopeless; you are also hapless and helpless.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#625273 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA HA !!!!!
OCB would call that a "REALLY ancient porno"...
<quoted text>
Yes, I've heard that.
But like I've said before, I generally don't trust what science "knows" about things like this.
They've been wrong countless times before.
Do you get the DNA testing lab ads where you are on Topix??

I get them here and they advertise that they can tell you if you have some Neanderthal DNA in you. If you are white there is a Very good chance you do.

Do you only question the 'earth' sciences such as: archaeology, paleontology, geology, and anthropology, but totally accept the science that makes your medicines, smart cellphone, computer, TV, space-travel, airplanes, weather-forecasting,the internet, etc, etc.

Of course you do. Typically YEC's accept EVERY science EXCEPT those that somehow impinge on their religious beliefs.

Wait a minute....do you not believe in DNA science??? You know that science that the government uses sometimes to find out if a criminal is really guilty or not. It's used to send people to execution, or save them from it.

You just pick and choose what to believe, not only in the Bible, but in your real life.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625274 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Then your "educated" mind should tell you that speculation is firming a theory without any facts...

So...... It's a guess.

Awesome. Thanks.
You're an idiot.

Awesome. Thanks.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#625275 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not tap dancing, I honestly don't know why you meant. Is honesty a difficult concept for you?

No, the goddammit particle was the opinion of ONE man, that doesn't mean it was ever considered to be called by that name.
Your idea of honesty is impossible for many of us.

It is for me.
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#625276 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Christianity started with just a dozen or so people and has escalated to almost 2 billion...
Give it time, the world will follow...
I know your goal is to make the world 100% Christian, but it will never happen.

Those Buddhists, Muslims (of which there are 1.8 billion, BTW, which is almost as many as Christianity, 1.8 is not that far from 2), Jews (who you hijacked Christianity from) Hindus, atheists, and agnostics will never go away.

In order for you to reach your sick, disgusting goal, people have to die if they refuse to be converted.

They will refuse, so what you're bascically asking for is a fight to the death - over silly belief.

You WANT the human race to die over bullsh!t. That's why you've convinced yourself of this delusion that "the whole world will be Christian".

Hell, you Christians can't even agree on WHICH DENOMINATION should rule the world!

So you will NEVER, EVER be able to pull this off as long as there are people against it, and there always will be!
Sharkey

Vallejo, CA

#625277 May 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Never mind, fucktard. You're hopeless.
You demonstrate that ole Christian luv so well.

*barf*

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#625279 May 21, 2013
What_You_Talkin_Bout wrote:
<quoted text> We cannot prove it. We are only human, what power do we have to prove it? We who believe in God chose to believe in him, he didn't need to prove to us. It isn't a fact that he exists but we choose to believe he does. You believe there isn't a God but that isn't a fact either. We believe what we choose to believe so it really doesn't matter if you believe, we'll keep believing, and it's your choice to believe in him or not. Just because you don't believe in him doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Your username is Apocalypse666, 666 is the symbol of the devil, how can you believe in the devil and think there isn't a God?
so you are gullible.

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