“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

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#624851 May 19, 2013
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>If you were so concerned about people's future well being, you'd stop irritating the hell out of people by being the phony hypocrite liar that you are.
But you're really not.
You're just a user.
They're your weapon.
Your adopted friends would love to know that you're using them as talking points against other people's points of view. I'm sure they much prefer NOT being dragged into other people's stupid-@ss fights.
My adopted friends would not mind because they, too, do not believe in using abortion as a means of birth control.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#624852 May 19, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>It's the same as :P, but facing toward your comment instead of away from it.
I'm going to need a decoder ring.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#624853 May 19, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
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Wow,, i have the right to accuse you of deverting the topic. My question and your answer has nothing to do with medicine and tech.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt,, in the name of science are you talking about???????
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You just said there is NO CODE in DNA, and now you say it is a code?
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WOW,, I honestly regret asking you your defintion of that.
Coded information is a redundancy?? You are beyond being brainwashed.... sorry to sound so mean. But truth is truth.
Can someone on here "decode" what she means and what she is saying.......?
please!!
She means just because something isn't self explanatory , it doesn't mean it's in a code. It means you just don't speak the same language.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#624855 May 19, 2013
"The Bio Code" -Is Life Written Into the Laws of Physics?

ďA recent mathematical analysis says that life as we know it is written into the laws of reality. DNA is built from a set of twenty amino acids - the first ten of those can create simple prebiotic life, and now it seems that those ten are thermodynamically destined to occur wherever they can.

The implications are staggering: good news for anyone worried about how we're alone, and bad news for anyone who demands some kind of "Designer" to put life together - it seems that physics can assemble the organic jigsaw all by itself, thank you very much, and has probably done so throughout space since the beginning of everything.

The study indicates that you don't need a miracle to arrive at the chemical cocktail for early life, just a decently large asteroid with the right components. That's all.Ē

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/04/...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#624856 May 19, 2013
Just imagine, all you need is a planet in the Goldilocks zone around some appropriate star and a asteroid hit and you just may get life after a while.

A process that has probably been going on for 14 billion years....I wonder how many planets out there are teeming with life?

Probably a lot....and not a god to be found anywhere.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#624857 May 19, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
Just imagine, all you need is a planet in the Goldilocks zone around some appropriate star and a asteroid hit and you just may get life after a while.
A process that has probably been going on for 14 billion years....I wonder how many planets out there are teeming with life?
Probably a lot....and not a god to be found anywhere.
The other thing to consider is that because stars go through stages, almost every planet is in that zone at one point in it's life time. So it seems that life is the rule, not the exception now. Religious nuts will hate this implication because it only reminds them that we are not that "special."

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

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#624858 May 19, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yet, you think that this "probably" is a bad thing, in spite of such "probablies" producing useful things like medicine and technology. Then you assume that it's better to have no answers instead.
Coded information is a redundancy.
A code is information, however it is information that is given meaning by humans as a way of cataloging and understanding it.
And where did the "code/information" that was in the "first living" cell/gene/DNA, at the begining of time come from that humans give meaning too, to catolog and understand?

If it takes a "mind" to interpret coded information, then by that same logic they must be a "mind" that give that code of information?

Because just like "nature" has no mind, neither does "chance" or a randomly poof that happened millions of years ago..
Nature itself does not use codes, codes are completely human constructs, arbitrary in their own rite, numerical representations of things. The "DNA code" is one of these systems we have devised as a means to understand and catalog the DNA itself, there is no code inherent in it, if anything, the closest human construct that can describe what DNA is would be a recipe, but even that is just "close enough," chemicals are a bit more elaborate than that.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

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#624859 May 19, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> She means just because something isn't self explanatory , it doesn't mean it's in a code. It means you just don't speak the same language.
Ohhh, in other words she has no explaination to begin with?

gotcha.. over and out...

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

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#624860 May 19, 2013
Here is something to ponder on, borrowed this from a friend.

Judge for yourself..
__________

We can explore five possible conclusions;


1) Humans designed DNA

2) Aliens designed DNA

3) DNA occurred randomly and spontaneously

4) There must be some undiscovered law of physics that creates information

5) DNA was Designed by a Superintelligence, i.e. God.

(1) requires time travel or infinite generations of humans.(2) could well be true but only pushes the question back in time.(3) may be a remote possibility, but itís not a scientific explanation in that it doesnít refer to a systematic, repeatable process. Itís nothing more than an appeal to luck .(4) could be true but no one can form a testable hypothesis until someone observes a naturally occurring code. So the only systematic explanation that remains is (5) a theological one.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

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#624861 May 19, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I'm going to need a decoder ring.
The q represents a protruding tongue and the : is a set of eyes.

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/wallpapers/10...

Some people think it's crude. Whatever.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#624862 May 19, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
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Ohhh, in other words she has no explaination to begin with?
gotcha.. over and out...

Absolutely not, it means you see a code where only your confusion exists. As to how it started, we are pretty sure RNA from microbes formed colony's and this gave rise to the first dna, from stromatolites about 3.5 billion years ago.

Evolution encompasses a wide range of phenomena: from the emergence of major lineages, to mass extinctions, to the evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria in hospitals today. However, within the field of evolutionary biology, the origin of life is of special interest because it addresses the fundamental question of where we (and all living things) came from.

Many lines of evidence help illuminate the origin of life: ancient fossils, radiometric dating, the phylogenetics and chemistry of modern organisms, and even experiments. However, since new evidence is constantly being discovered, hypotheses about how life originated may change or be modified. It's important to keep in mind that changes to these hypotheses are a normal part of the process of science and that they do not represent a change in the basis of evolutionary theory.

When did life originate?
Evidence suggests that life first evolved around 3.5 billion years ago. This evidence takes the form of microfossils (fossils too small to be seen without the aid of a microscope) and ancient rock structures in South Africa and Australia called stromatolites. Stromatolites are produced by microbes (mainly photosynthesizing cyanobacteria) that form thin microbial films which trap mud; over time, layers of these mud/microbe mats can build up into a layered rock structure ó the stromatolite.

Stromatolites are still produced by microbes today. These modern stromatolites are remarkably similar to the ancient stromatolites which provide evidence of some of the earliest life on Earth. Modern and ancient stromatolites have similar shapes and, when seen in cross section, both show the same fine layering produced by thin bacterial sheets. Microfossils of ancient cyanobacteria can sometimes be identified within these layers.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/...
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#624863 May 19, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
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And where did the "code/information" that was in the "first living" cell/gene/DNA, at the begining of time come from that humans give meaning too, to catolog and understand?
If it takes a "mind" to interpret coded information, then by that same logic they must be a "mind" that give that code of information?
Because just like "nature" has no mind, neither does "chance" or a randomly poof that happened millions of years ago..
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The space of the universe is an astral projection of the mind/imagination of God. It is limitless and ever expanding. God is Energy and the forces in nature, electromagnetism, gravitation, and the nuclear force. Daniel 11:38. Energy is omnipotent, omnipresent, and eternal. It cannot be created or destroyed but can only change form. The Spirit is composed of light and heat, both are forms of Energy. Our son (pun intended) is the source of Energy for the universe. Psalm 19:4-5. The Messiah (The Lord) is Gods' wife (Isaiah 54:5-6) and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#624864 May 19, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
Here is something to ponder on, borrowed this from a friend.
Judge for yourself..
__________
We can explore five possible conclusions;
1) Humans designed DNA
2) Aliens designed DNA
3) DNA occurred randomly and spontaneously
4) There must be some undiscovered law of physics that creates information
5) DNA was Designed by a Superintelligence, i.e. God.
(1) requires time travel or infinite generations of humans.(2) could well be true but only pushes the question back in time.(3) may be a remote possibility, but itís not a scientific explanation in that it doesnít refer to a systematic, repeatable process. Itís nothing more than an appeal to luck .(4) could be true but no one can form a testable hypothesis until someone observes a naturally occurring code. So the only systematic explanation that remains is (5) a theological one.
How about #(6)...Nature designed DNA?

See posts number 624855 and 624856 above

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#624865 May 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The space of the universe is an astral projection of the mind/imagination of God. It is limitless and ever expanding. God is Energy and the forces in nature, electromagnetism, gravitation, and the nuclear force. Daniel 11:38. Energy is omnipotent, omnipresent, and eternal. It cannot be created or destroyed but can only change form. The Spirit is composed of light and heat, both are forms of Energy. Our son (pun intended) is the source of Energy for the universe. Psalm 19:4-5. The Messiah (The Lord) is Gods' wife (Isaiah 54:5-6) and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24.
Oh Pleeeaaassse....old time religion along with New Age crapola.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#624866 May 19, 2013
The Lord spoke the material in the universe into existence by the very profound thought, I think, therefore I AM. This was the Big Bang. The pen is mightier than the sword and the Lord ended the cold war 29 years ago by his word. You've heard from the NT, "except those days be shortened, there should no flesh be saved alive" God has also killed the wicked with words. Isaiah 11:4 "...and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked"
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#624867 May 19, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh Pleeeaaassse....old time religion along with New Age crapola.
"Fools despise wisdom and instruction" and "Fools hate knowledge" There is a very simple explanation for all of it. New Agers are expecting the coming of the Messiah who you will call Antichrist. Unless you're one of the few elect.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#624868 May 19, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
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And where did the "code/information" that was in the "first living" cell/gene/DNA, at the begining of time come from that humans give meaning too, to catolog and understand?
If it takes a "mind" to interpret coded information, then by that same logic they must be a "mind" that give that code of information?
Because just like "nature" has no mind, neither does "chance" or a randomly poof that happened millions of years ago..
<quoted text>
You fail at comprehension. Reread what I posted again, you still did not read it, or you did not understand it.

Oh, and time existed long before life on Earth did.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#624869 May 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>"Fools despise wisdom and instruction" and "Fools hate knowledge" There is a very simple explanation for all of it. New Agers are expecting the coming of the Messiah who you will call Antichrist. Unless you're one of the few elect.
Why Ms. Blange I LOVE wisdom and knowledge. I spend about 8 hours a day learning. Unlike you however, I learn about reality and the world as it ACTUALLY is.

Sweetie....there is no God!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#624870 May 20, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Why Ms. Blange I LOVE wisdom and knowledge. I spend about 8 hours a day learning. Unlike you however, I learn about reality and the world as it ACTUALLY is.
Sweetie....there is no God!
When God comes to the earth and works miracles, signs, and wonders, will you change your mind? It won't be too late. You will see the OT come alive and be fulfilled. That's why Christians say the word became flesh, it's a living and powerful word. BTW, I'm not a Christian, that is the purest form of Satan worship and he is the modern day idol of Israel. My God is alive and will live and reign on the earth forever.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#624872 May 20, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>When God comes to the earth and works miracles, signs, and wonders, will you change your mind? It won't be too late. You will see the OT come alive and be fulfilled. That's why Christians say the word became flesh, it's a living and powerful word. BTW, I'm not a Christian, that is the purest form of Satan worship and he is the modern day idol of Israel. My God is alive and will live and reign on the earth forever.
Ironically, nothing in the bible is coming true.

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