Prove there's a god.

RiversideRedneck

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#624107 May 16, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Your obvious failure to understand the English language is noted.
No, I understand.

That when you write nonsense like "Do we have to prove the non-existence of every god who has ever been worshipped or just the one you worship?" and get called out on it, you tuck tail and run away from it.

Otherwise, you would've done what you said you could do and prove the non-existence of just one god, my God.

You didn't. You back pedaled five times.

Again, your concession is noted.
Hey Zeus

Durant, OK

#624108 May 16, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Come on and do it.
Prove there's a god.
Don;t read off scripture or anything like that just prove there's a god.
look in the mirror, there's all the proof one needs.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#624109 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes I have. Anecdotal evidence.
That counts as some proof, so your "any proof" prerequisite is fulfilled.
There you go again.

Not only is anecdotal evidence not proof, it's not even evidence.

You keep getting all confused about those two words.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#624110 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't care to, unlike you. You really want to be able to prove that God doesn't exist.
Go.
No, I want you to provide evidence that your assertion of there being a god is not a lie.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#624111 May 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, I want you to provide evidence that your assertion of there being a god is not a lie.
He knows he's using a fallacious argument.

Burden of proof has been explained to him over and over - but he still seems to think it's his best tactic.

I'm calling that, not a fallacy, but a flat-out lie.

RiversideRedneck

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#624112 May 16, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again.
Not only is anecdotal evidence not proof, it's not even evidence.
You keep getting all confused about those two words.
It is "any proof" that OCB was asking for.

Ever buy a product because some person told you how their breath feels fresher after using a certain brand of toothpaste?

That's abecdotal evidence.

Ever need to find a good dry cleaner? Do you ask a few friends for recommendations or do you do a complete scientific study on the best one in town?

We use anecdotal evidence all the time, it's used in place of clinical or scientific evidence.

RiversideRedneck

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#624113 May 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, I want you to provide evidence that your assertion of there being a god is not a lie.
Ok, I will. As soon as you provide evidence that it is a lie.

RiversideRedneck

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#624114 May 16, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>He knows he's using a fallacious argument.
Burden of proof has been explained to him over and over - but he still seems to think it's his best tactic.
I'm calling that, not a fallacy, but a flat-out lie.
Why do you think it's a fallacious argument?

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Since: Sep 08

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#624115 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It is "any proof" that OCB was asking for.
Ever buy a product because some person told you how their breath feels fresher after using a certain brand of toothpaste?
That's abecdotal evidence.
Ever need to find a good dry cleaner? Do you ask a few friends for recommendations or do you do a complete scientific study on the best one in town?
We use anecdotal evidence all the time, it's used in place of clinical or scientific evidence.
No.

Not unless it's a very reliable source.

Where's yours?

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The Borderland of Sol

#624116 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why do you think it's a fallacious argument?
I am NOT going to explain the burden-of-proof fallacy to you again! Look it up yourself.

Here: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burd...

Try reading it this time.

Sheesh.
OCB

United States

#624117 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It is "any proof" that OCB was asking for.
Ever buy a product because some person told you how their breath feels fresher after using a certain brand of toothpaste?
That's abecdotal evidence.
Ever need to find a good dry cleaner? Do you ask a few friends for recommendations or do you do a complete scientific study on the best one in town?
We use anecdotal evidence all the time, it's used in place of clinical or scientific evidence.
OMG- that is not evidence- that is opinion.

RiversideRedneck

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#624118 May 16, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No.
Not unless it's a very reliable source.
Where's yours?
Me. I am the very reliable source - where else do you think anecdotal evidence comes from?

RiversideRedneck

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#624119 May 16, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I am NOT going to explain the burden-of-proof fallacy to you again! Look it up yourself.
Here: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burd...
Try reading it this time.
Sheesh.
I don't need to look it up, I know what it is.

But you use it one-sided and one-sided only.

When an atheist makes the (very bold) claim "There is no god", you don't ask them for evidence of that, you take them at their word.
interaction

Howell, MI

#624120 May 16, 2013
i'm in a fox hole so i'm gonna act like i worship and god is real just in case he gets me..

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#624121 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Scientific fact??
That I an a small fraction of the same energy that was created at the very beginning of our universe 13.7 billion years ago?!?
LMAO!!!
It is not a fact that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, it's only the accepted estimate.
Try again.
I am not here to educate you so sorry, you’ll have to do it yourself and yes, scientific fact. Sorry you are incapable of understanding that but it does help explain much about your deliberate ignorance.

Everything that exists now existed then. When you grasp that concept you will have educated yourself.

And of course laughing at that concept simply proves your own ignorance.

Why are you putting words that I never said? Is it because you do? Pathetic…

Anyway give or take a million years of so yes it’s an estimate. An estimate based on fact and accepted by science and most of the church.

But not you, what it like to be a loner of little brain?

RiversideRedneck

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#624122 May 16, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I am not here to educate you so sorry, you’ll have to do it yourself and yes, scientific fact. Sorry you are incapable of understanding that but it does help explain much about your deliberate ignorance.
Everything that exists now existed then. When you grasp that concept you will have educated yourself.
And of course laughing at that concept simply proves your own ignorance.
Why are you putting words that I never said? Is it because you do? Pathetic…
Anyway give or take a million years of so yes it’s an estimate. An estimate based on fact and accepted by science and most of the church.
But not you, what it like to be a loner of little brain?
Can you read? I didn't debate your "Everything that exists now existed then" thing, I debated your agreement with the 13.7 billion year guess.

I understand that energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another, which is why I didn't debate it.

Derp.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#624123 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't need to look it up, I know what it is.
But you use it one-sided and one-sided only.
When an atheist makes the (very bold) claim "There is no god", you don't ask them for evidence of that, you take them at their word.
Wrong again.

You: "God."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "I don't have to. You show me otherwise."

See how that doesn't work?

RiversideRedneck

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#624124 May 16, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again.
You: "God."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "I don't have to. You show me otherwise."
See how that doesn't work?
You got me wrong, it should go like this:

Me: "God."
You: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
Me: "I can't, that's between you and God."

Don't be like the rest of the stupid atheists out there and clump all 2 billions Christians together as if we're all the same.

Here's my take on the reverse discussion:

You: "There is no god."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "Dont be stupid, everyone knows there's no god!"

Or you can be like Christine:

You: "There is no god."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "E=MC^2"

lol

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#624125 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You got me wrong, it should go like this:
Me: "God."
You: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
Me: "I can't, that's between you and God."
Don't be like the rest of the stupid atheists out there and clump all 2 billions Christians together as if we're all the same.
Here's my take on the reverse discussion:
You: "There is no god."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "Dont be stupid, everyone knows there's no god!"
Or you can be like Christine:
You: "There is no god."
Me: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
You: "E=MC^2"
lol
Me: "God."
You: "Really? Kewl! Show me!"
Me: "I can't, that's between you and God."

But, but, you still have not shown me this God thingy. You cannot cite it as an argument.
Show me!

Do that just once, and I'll believe.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#624126 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Me. I am the very reliable source - where else do you think anecdotal evidence comes from?
Sure.

And 4 out of 5 dentists recommend this product.

Do you not see how dense you're being?

Just curious.

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