Prove there's a god.

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#623042 May 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, it's a very apt analogy. But let's give you another:
Most little girls wear teeshirts and jeans, yet most are not lesbians. If what you wore did impact it, they'd all be lesbians. Male actors wear makeup all the time, yet most male child stars grow up straight, if what they wore had an impact they'd all be gay.
Let's expand that more ....
Almost all gay people are told growing up that being homosexual is "evil" or "wrong," they are forced to deny themselves, told they are not suppose to be "like that." Yet they grow up to be one of two things, either gay, or bigots who eventually get "busted" for something that forces them out of the closet. If how they were raised had an impact on their sexuality, there would be no gay people on the planet. That bears repeating, if how a child is raised impacts their sexuality, there would be NO, as in none at all, gay people on the planet.
Very true. Even if they were raised in a completely accepting, loving family, they still wouldn't turn out to be gay, because there is no way they could avoid the message of society at large: being gay is wrong. If people really could choose their sexual orientation, no one would choose the one that leads to them getting hated and discriminated against.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#623043 May 11, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think that evolution occurs by animals "trying" to transform into something else?
Blind ambitions? WTF?
What do U mean WTF?! Isn't that what evolution states?! That one animal evolves into another for the purpose of adaptation and survival?! That fish evolved and grew lungs for air and started living on land?! For U to ignore the real questions and pick out "trying" just shows that U don't have as much faith in the theory as U think and the tactic of avoidance is all U have, oh, and Wikipedia!!

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#623044 May 11, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Ahahahah. Evolution "violates" entropy and the "law of biogenisis." You can't, on the one hand, come in here and say that you understand evolution, and then post crap like this. He started out instantly with the most easily debunked fallacies that apologists always try to use. Evolution has *nothing* to do with the 2nd law. And there is no "law of biogenisis."
Actually there is.

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Law_...

But this was to counter the notion that flies sprang from nothing in dead animals, and has nothing to do with modern abiogenesis.

_-Alice-_

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#623045 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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Not a good analogy
Is there a good analogy for wearing shoes and being homosexual?

Enlighten me.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#623046 May 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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"Responsible" doesn't answer how life got as diverse as it is, the theory of evolution answers the real questions of "how," the important question. Saying "god dun it" does not answer anything, it literally answers nothing because there is no evidence that there is a god, there is no evidence that anything outside of natural influences has had any effect on the universe, and knowing "who" does not tell you anything.
Does knowing your computer is built by Apple explain to you how it was built? Does knowing your car is manufactured by Nissan explain to you how to built an internal combustion engine or how that engine works?
Funny U should ask! Let me tell ya! As far as the last part goes, I'd probably not know exactly how my computer was built but I would know that it was built by Apple.

_-Alice-_

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#623047 May 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Well in his case it seems to have been an indicator.
But pretending to be doctor and actually becoming one is a far cry from pretending to be a girl and becoming gay.
Not sure if it even requires schooling to achieve that goal. lol
You don't become gay.

You are or you are not gay.

It's as simple as that.

I don't understand the confusion.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#623048 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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What do U mean WTF?! Isn't that what evolution states?! That one animal evolves into another for the purpose of adaptation and survival?! That fish evolved and grew lungs for air and started living on land?! For U to ignore the real questions and pick out "trying" just shows that U don't have as much faith in the theory as U think and the tactic of avoidance is all U have, oh, and Wikipedia!!
Again, evolution doesn't "say" anything.

Also, that's not even what the theory of evolution says, that's what creationists say.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#623049 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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Funny U should ask! Let me tell ya! As far as the last part goes, I'd probably not know exactly how my computer was built but I would know that it was built by Apple.
Which doesn't help you build one, does it?

Also, are you lazy or is English not your primary language, "U" is not a word.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#623050 May 11, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Ahahahah. Evolution "violates" entropy and the "law of biogenisis." You can't, on the one hand, come in here and say that you understand evolution, and then post crap like this. He started out instantly with the most easily debunked fallacies that apologists always try to use. Evolution has *nothing* to do with the 2nd law. And there is no "law of biogenisis."
U didn't read the full post, did U? The link didn't concern U and I knew that folks like U are too closed-minded to give time to listen. And U and other evolutionists ignore the second law of thermodynamics dealing with enthropy because it doesn't fit well with evolution theory. And whatever doesn't fit gives way to some other outstanding explanation that is only speculation but seems to fit and idiots believe it because they are told to!

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#623051 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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What do U mean WTF?! Isn't that what evolution states?! That one animal evolves into another for the purpose of adaptation and survival?! That fish evolved and grew lungs for air and started living on land?! For U to ignore the real questions and pick out "trying" just shows that U don't have as much faith in the theory as U think and the tactic of avoidance is all U have, oh, and Wikipedia!!
No, the reason I picked out the word "trying" is because it shows a huge misunderstanding on your part. Animals don't think "hey, I'd like to have wings," and then "try" to grow them.

And what questions did you ask?

Since: May 09

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#623052 May 11, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, thank g-d Carradine wasn't a flaming, gay politician...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story...
...or they would be telling the little ones that he should be someone to be proud to emulate too.
Is this your way of saying you are a closeted admirer of Carradine?

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#623053 May 11, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Is there a good analogy for wearing shoes and being homosexual?
Enlighten me.
No, no. He mentioned the shoes but I figured it was more than just that. Most times when a boy prefers to wear a dress that he know is for girls he may be telling U something. With girls it may be as subtle as wanting to sport a boys haircut or take on the mannerisms of boys. It's harder to tell with girls because nowadays it's acceptable for girls to be as equal to boys without being defined as gay so early on.

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#623054 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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U didn't read the full post, did U? The link didn't concern U and I knew that folks like U are too closed-minded to give time to listen. And U and other evolutionists ignore the second law of thermodynamics dealing with enthropy because it doesn't fit well with evolution theory. And whatever doesn't fit gives way to some other outstanding explanation that is only speculation but seems to fit and idiots believe it because they are told to!
It has NOTHING to do with evolution. Let me repeat that. The 2nd law of thermodynamics has absolutely nothing at all to do with evolution. If you understood evolution, or the 2nd law of thermodynamics, you wouldn't be parroting this nonsense you read on apologist sites. That's why I don't take you seriously - you constantly commit the most basic and ridiculous errors.

And I did listen. That guy states the 2nd law as "things decrease, not improve," which is not at all what it says. It says "the entropy of a closed system never decreases," and he intentionally misrepresents it and fallaciously applies it to evolution. Earth is not a closed system, and anyways, the 2nd law applies to *energy,* not complexity. It does not preclude the formation of complex organisms, because it has *nothing* to do with them. Again, it concerns energy - it is not a "law of disorder" as some creationists term it.

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#623055 May 11, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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You don't become gay.
You are or you are not gay.
It's as simple as that.
I don't understand the confusion.
Maybe you have to be gay to really understand gayness?
But I see it as a choice, a or preference and some are swinging both ways.

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#623056 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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U didn't read the full post, did U? The link didn't concern U and I knew that folks like U are too closed-minded to give time to listen. And U and other evolutionists ignore the second law of thermodynamics dealing with enthropy because it doesn't fit well with evolution theory. And whatever doesn't fit gives way to some other outstanding explanation that is only speculation but seems to fit and idiots believe it because they are told to!
And trust me, I am not closed minded, but being open minded does not mean "humoring absurdly fallacious arguments."

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#623057 May 11, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Actually there is.
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Law_...
But this was to counter the notion that flies sprang from nothing in dead animals, and has nothing to do with modern abiogenesis.
"Law" implies an incontrovertible rule of the universe. Yes, there is the *observation* of biogenisis, in that we have only seen life come from life, but it is not a law.

But ok, lol.

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#623058 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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U didn't read the full post, did U? The link didn't concern U and I knew that folks like U are too closed-minded to give time to listen. And U and other evolutionists ignore the second law of thermodynamics dealing with enthropy because it doesn't fit well with evolution theory. And whatever doesn't fit gives way to some other outstanding explanation that is only speculation but seems to fit and idiots believe it because they are told to!
The second law evolution argument is pure garbage.

_-Alice-_

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#623059 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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No, no. He mentioned the shoes but I figured it was more than just that. Most times when a boy prefers to wear a dress that he know is for girls he may be telling U something. With girls it may be as subtle as wanting to sport a boys haircut or take on the mannerisms of boys. It's harder to tell with girls because nowadays it's acceptable for girls to be as equal to boys without being defined as gay so early on.
http://www.operatorchan.org/g/src/13657298111...

Skirts and all.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#623060 May 11, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It has NOTHING to do with evolution. Let me repeat that. The 2nd law of thermodynamics has absolutely nothing at all to do with evolution. If you understood evolution, or the 2nd law of thermodynamics, you wouldn't be parroting this nonsense you read on apologist sites. That's why I don't take you seriously - you constantly commit the most basic and ridiculous errors.
And I did listen. That guy states the 2nd law as i"things decrease, not improve," which is not at all what it says. It says "the entropy of a closed system never decreases," and he intentionally misrepresents it and fallaciously applies it to evolution. Earth is not a closed system, and anyways, the 2nd law applies to *energy,* not complexity. It does not preclude the formation of complex organisms, because it has *nothing* to do with them. Again, it concerns energy - it is not a "law of disorder" as some creationists term it.
Be for real!! U say stuff that U find from someone else that tries to rationalize the faults in the theory. Why do U think people die or things deteriorate, stars explode and atoms breakdown?! Complexity is no stranger to entropy, who taught U otherwise? Now go back (since U've started) and here everything else out while dwelling on your contradiction that the second law only deals with energy and not complexities, oh, which are made up of energies.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#623061 May 11, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
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Be for real!! U say stuff that U find from someone else that tries to rationalize the faults in the theory. Why do U think people die or things deteriorate, stars explode and atoms breakdown?! Complexity is no stranger to entropy, who taught U otherwise? Now go back (since U've started) and here everything else out while dwelling on your contradiction that the second law only deals with energy and not complexities, oh, which are made up of energies.
Child, you need to actually learn the theory of evolution before you even try understand it.

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