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Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Not exactly. The problem with science has always been scientists. There are no flaws in science, just flawed men with bias opinions which the veil around science. Science does not have a side, humans with unscientific opinions form sides.
This is true...and I tend to think there is very little unbiased information out there these days. I mean when the scientific world refuses to give credit to scientific research because the man who presents it also believes in God...or when the creationist refuse to accept anything factual simply because it appears to defy what they believe to be true...then how on earth can we expect to receive TRUE, UNBIASED information. It's always 6 one way half a dozen the other....I really don't why people can't just agree to disagree and move forward.

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Also, fully 100% of the scientific organizations on EARTH support the Theory of Evolution.
Then there are the billions of humans that don't believe in the Christian God at all. 2.1 billion and 1.8 billion
After Christians and Muslims, non-believers/non-religious come next. 1.1 billion
Catholics enjoyed a pretty big drop in attendance when it came out that their priests were screwing their children....and probably had been for a thousand+ years.
I also hear that some protestant denominations are having a hard time filling pews.
Ehh...perhaps...perhaps not. That's really never been confirmed.

Certainly there are many who don't believe in God..a god or anything else...it is what it is my friend.

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<quoted text>My post was in regards to Kittenkoder not having base thoughts, not you.
Well that's good Oscar...I really couldn't understand the reason behind that. I don't believe we've had a chance to formally meet. I'm TSI...long time intermittent poster. I believe in God...but I'm not an atheist hater and I don't try to push my beliefs down anyone's throat. Hope we can be friends!!

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Goes to show you, huh?
Wink :)
Winks back...sometimes Catch...the truth just hurts. But I deal with pain on a daily basis...it's my profession...I'll bounce back :)

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, his second opinion was himself.
A google search from a medical layman gave him more answers than the "doctor" did.
Imagine that.
A guy goes to the doctor to find out the result of some tests.

The doctor tells him, "I'm afraid you are suffering from a terminal illness. There is no hope for a cure, and you have at most two months to live."

The patient replies, "Well, I want a second opinion."

The doctor says, "OK, you're ugly, too."

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Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent rebuttal to all the false assumptions which atheist minded posters use, while pretending they have a science clue. I have been reading where the APA has done similar things which evolutionists have done. Create a close system of psychiatrists, designed to keep conflicting ideas and studies out, while promoting opinion and bias as science, while rejecting the Leona Tyler principle.
Well...I'll be the first to admit...I'm no genius and certainly not a scientists...but I can, when given enough information, decipher through the evidence and make a fairly decent scientific conclusion. Not always right and I do overlook or simply misunderstand at times. I'm not biased though.

I agree on the way they promote opinion and bias as science. You'll notice, I constantly ask for evidence. Rarely get it...but I ask.

Lol...TOPIX...the odd world where everything has been 100% proven as fact...so long as you're an atheist. Gotta love it!

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Aerobatty wrote:
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Apologist sites ALWAYS lie.
Always.
Again...NOTHING...is always and never

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Chaumette wrote:
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I keep asking you to prove there isn't a god. You have yet to do so.
Oh there are many gods, unfortunately for you.... they are all imaginary.

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<quoted text>Says the guy who wears a dress.
I wear you out.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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A person without particular or specialized knowledge in medicine, like my friend - who diagnosed himself better than the doctor did.
A guy goes to his doctor because his right hand is horribly swollen.

The doctor tells him, "Every evening, fill the bathroom sink with scalding water, as hot as you can take it, and put your hand in it for a couple of minutes. In a few days, the swelling will go down."

The guy follows the doctor's instructions for a week, and his hand is as swollen as ever. One evening, his maid sees him soaking the hand in the hot water, and asks him what he is doing. The guy tells her.

The maid says, "No, that's not the cure. Every evening, fill the bathroom sink with ice cold water, as cold as you can take it, and put your hand in it for a couple of minutes. That will cause the swelling to go down."

The guy figures he has nothing to lose, so he follows the maid's instructions. In three days the swelling is gone, and his hand is perfectly normal.

The guy goes back to his doctor and says, "You told me to soak my hand in hot water, and nothing happened. Then my maid said cold water, and bang, instant cure. What's up with that?"

The doctor is silent for a few seconds, scratches his head, then says, "Damn, I could swear my maid said hot water."

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That turns out not to be the case.
The point was evolution - a matter upon which even the vast majority of Christians agree.
Indeed, the only ones who seem to disagree are a small minority of mostly American Fundamentalists.
This is distressing.
Evolution in and of itself...I have no problem with. The theory as it relates to man...ehh...I disagree. I think a vast majority are at odds with it. For years it seemed people were okay with slavery...because it was considered the norm and to speak how you really felt...well...that would put you in a bad position with powers that be. Most people accept what the government pushes down their throat. They're afraid not to...doesn't mean they agree. they're just afraid to go against the grain.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ugh....
I shudda be born in the 40's...
So, you're a WW2 kinda redneck HUH?

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perhaps...I'm gonna revisit that one...and read only scientific data...from science sites only. I'll have to get back to you after I've looked over all the info. I'm sure both sides make good arguments, as that's generally how it works...but we'll see.
Second law creationist arguments are founded in complete stupidity. Sorry even the smarter creationists are aware of this.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Belief in a deity does not preclude understanding of evolution.
For most people.
Understanding evolution and agreeing with all the theories are completely different. it isn't a lack of understanding that always results in the disagreement...it's often skepticism...because science has not been 100% full proof in their so called facts. To agree, without question, on every theory just because a scientist says it's so and presents a little evidence that seems to substantiate it, is no different than what the folks at Jonestown, Guyana did. Y'all can have your Kool-aid...I don't mind being called a fool for questioning its ingredients.

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<quoted text>You're not very realistic if you think one can't believe in a god AND accept the fact of evolution.
One does not have to exclude the other.
Have you not considered that there are those who believe in a god and who also believe that it was a god who allowed for evolution to take place?
I actually posted that somewhere on here recently. But, if you missed it...Yes..I certainly believe one can believe in God, a god, or gods, and believe that God used evolution as a means of creation. I'm not entirely against the notion myself. I mean, evolutionist have no clue who the common ancestor is. If, though I'm not sold at this point, but IF...evolution is true...perhaps our common ancestor is dirt...one could never be sure.

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Ehh...perhaps...perhaps not. That's really never been confirmed.
Certainly there are many who don't believe in God..a god or anything else...it is what it is my friend.
My plotting out of the numbers in that post went totally wrong....let me try to straighten up that mess.

Last I heard there were:

2.1 billion 'Christians'

1.8 billion 'Muslims'

1.1 billion non-religious/no religion/atheist/agnostic

900,000 Hindus

etc, etc.

The 100% of science organizations supporting evolution stands

The Catholic priests screwing children stands. All over the world there are reports of this. I don't think it is just a modern eccentricity. In all populations there is a certain percentage of pedophiles to be found, and the church is an ideal breeding place for them. Think celibacy and priestly privilege.

The drops in attendance at churches stands.

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religitards, always prepared to build their god in the first pool of ignorance they find.
No amount of ignorance too small for the build of a christian god.
Be nice Karl...geez. We're supposed to friends...friends don't talk to friends like this.:) smile Karl...just do it!

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Truth signed in wrote:
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Actually, the fact that "not all scientists are darwinists," isn't meaningless nor is it fallacious at all, particularly when a Darwinist claims all scientific data presented by a Christian is biased or irrelevant. Project Steve isn't pointing out a flaw in logic...it simply pokes fun at christians in an attempt to diminish the truth...which is...Christian Scientists have and still do present factual scientific data. Project Steve is clearly an infantile attacking rebuttal by evolutionist when Christians merely point out the fact that objective Christian scientists have made remarkable discoveries.
I can find evidence both for and against evolution. But the one thing that is for sure, the theory of Evolution violates two laws of science. The Second Law of Thermodynamics (law of increasing entropy) and the Law of Biogenesis. And, on chromosome 2, unless you object to reading scientific data on a Christian site, here's some good scientific research that shows there is NOT clear evidence of the fusion. http://creation.com/chromosome-2-fusion-2
Oh my Darwin. I'm done. I can't do this anymore. You just said evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics.

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No, probably it wouldn't...because in the scientific world of today...it's politically incorrect to refute evolution. And, really, there's no need for nit-picking...I'm fairly certain you understood what I meant by Darwinist site...clearly, any website that upholds the Darwinist theory. But I get it...the more flaws and errors you can't point out in my posts...the better you feel about yourself. I'm sure I'll have you feeling like the smartest person alive in no time at all. I'm not a bio-physicist, geneticist, or scientist of any kind. I don't claim or try to pretend to be intellectually above others, and I don't purposely attempt to find flaws as a means of belittling others. But please, if it makes you feel better to do so...have at it.:)
Are you like... super fragile or something? I haven't attacked you once, and every time I respond to you you act as if I spent my entire post calling you an idiot. I have attacked (probably too strong a word) your ideas, not you as a person. Big difference.

Scientists do not "uphold" evolution because it is politically correct, they do so because the evidence points to common descent. If there was a legitimate disproof of evolution, it would be front page news.

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Understanding evolution and agreeing with all the theories are completely different. it isn't a lack of understanding that always results in the disagreement...it's often skepticism...because science has not been 100% full proof in their so called facts. To agree, without question, on every theory just because a scientist says it's so and presents a little evidence that seems to substantiate it, is no different than what the folks at Jonestown, Guyana did. Y'all can have your Kool-aid...I don't mind being called a fool for questioning its ingredients.
I agree TSI. The study of evolution is an intriguing thing and those theories have had a hold on me since childhood. I have a vast collection of fossilized fish, trilobites, amber embedded insects from the pre Jurassic era, ferns, etc etc. I have a collection of iron meteorites that may have been around since the near beginning of our know time.

I too have had the same amount of skepticism of some of the theories of evolution just as I have also had some skepticism of the Bible as well. But still I search for and continue in my evlotionary studies and search and continue in my spiritual studies as well. I have never belived those two to be mutually exclusive.

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