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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621725 May 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then use an uninformed judgment.
Like Kirk told Spock, "Take a guess"
You described how religious "answers" are formed.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#621726 May 6, 2013
Nobody wrote:
Yeah its soooo much easier to hate each other than to love each other , huh guys? right? just by reading everyones post I can see that.
They started it!

Since: Jul 12

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#621727 May 6, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So, "atypical" Christians aren't.
That reduces your numbers by well over 50%.
Makes you a minority, doesn't it?
No dude, WBC is not 50% of Christians...

Since: May 11

UK

#621728 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Well then, by all means debate these two misfits arguments with evidence that clearly refutes and debunks their claims. I'm game to listen.
Listen to this....

You have pulled out a spurious `argument from authority`. so don`t whine when your authorities are examined and found wanting.

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621729 May 6, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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Science debunks itself...but isn`t there a conspiracy to promote evolution? Would science debunk itself if it was invested in certain facts being true? You know like CMI or The Institute for creation research...
So good of you to make the distinction between creationists and scientists...saved me the trouble.
Nah, I don't think there's a conspiracy to promote evolution. It is what is. Darwin, a very intelligent man, threw some well thought out theories out there and many, who choose not believe in God, Allah, whatever, just latched on to the concepts. They fit for some, not for others. Let me state my position here...I believe in God...but I get why many don't. I'm simply engaging in debate. For the record, I have a great deal of respect for science, although I am very skeptical about many of the theories.

Since: Jul 12

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#621730 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You described how religious "answers" are formed.
No sir, that'd be your little theories....

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#621731 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Sorry...that's been debunked by SCIENTIST...not creationist.
http://news.discovery.com/history/missing-lin...
There's no debunking , there is just not enough supportive evidence. It very well maybe a human predecessor, but it is thought to be too old, but whatever the hominids came from is in that category, or nothing has yet been found of it. The hominids certainly didn't jump out a hole in the ground , they came from some type tetrapod. Or perhaps your god created the first Australopithecus and it was called Adam.
But that's the same as saying it jumped out a hole in the ground.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

Boss of the Inland Empire

#621732 May 6, 2013
Nobody wrote:
Yeah its soooo much easier to hate each other than to love each other , huh guys? right? just by reading everyones post I can see that.
Said Nobody ever

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621733 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Not when you make a claim that you had done research, because to do research your reading comprehension must at least be on par with mine. Most of my typos are actually keyboard related, typically caused by shifting between code to English mode. Slang is simply an excuse for not being educated.
No, that simply isn't true. I actually have an education. I work in a highly uneducated, poverty stricken area of the world. I have to speak in a manner that puts myself on their level, in order to teach them how to properly care for themselves and their family members. I'll admit, my lack of use of a good vocabulary over time, because the uneducated don't understand the words, has changed the way I speak. But don't confuse my slang or inappropriate grammar as a lack of intelligence. I assure you, I'm no genius, but I'm far from uneducated. Your need to denigrate reflects your character, not my intelligence.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

Boss of the Inland Empire

#621734 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You described how religious "answers" are formed.
What about the "educated Guess" aka Hypothesis? are you absolutely 100 percent sure with those? Or kinda sure? Or somewhere around? Close to? Estimated?
Come on.... What's your guess?

Since: May 11

UK

#621735 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Nah, I don't think there's a conspiracy to promote evolution. It is what is. Darwin, a very intelligent man, threw some well thought out theories out there and many, who choose not believe in God, Allah, whatever, just latched on to the concepts. They fit for some, not for others. Let me state my position here...I believe in God...but I get why many don't. I'm simply engaging in debate. For the record, I have a great deal of respect for science, although I am very skeptical about many of the theories.
...you are aware that a theory when applied to science is of greater importance than fact?

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621736 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Now I know you are lying in your first sentence, because if it would not bother you at all you'd consider all the evidence, not just one portion. Even if one bit of evidence is incorrect, and in this case you cannot demonstrate how it is incorrect, the rest of the evidence is still valid. All the evidence points to common ancestor, all of it.
I've joked about it in the past, but seriously...what difference would it make if my ancestors were apes? It's not like I could be singled out as a lone ape...if it's true...we all are. My problem isn't a concern that I may come from a line of chimpanzees...it's simply that I don't personally believe we did. And if we did, then I want to know how the apes got here. That's pretty simple I think. I mean if you're gonna shove evolution done my kids throats, then at least tell them where the doggone apes came from. Don't confuse them into thinking you have it all figured out and the rest of world is idiots, when the is, you don't.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#621737 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Sorry...that's been debunked by SCIENTIST...not creationist.
http://news.discovery.com/history/missing-lin...
BTW that is a rabid fundie site "the disco institute"
Ida isn't a lemur , it's teeth and nails prove it isn't.
But it is so old and far in age from the hominids , there's nothing
between to show it became a hominid.
But Ida is not on the lemur line because she lacks two key characteristics shared by lemurs a grooming claw on her second toe and a fused set of teeth called a tooth comb.
This is what I was talking about, these people know they are lying when they say it is a lemur. It isn't its a primate and very well could be our ancestor.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621738 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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No, that simply isn't true. I actually have an education. I work in a highly uneducated, poverty stricken area of the world. I have to speak in a manner that puts myself on their level, in order to teach them how to properly care for themselves and their family members. I'll admit, my lack of use of a good vocabulary over time, because the uneducated don't understand the words, has changed the way I speak. But don't confuse my slang or inappropriate grammar as a lack of intelligence. I assure you, I'm no genius, but I'm far from uneducated. Your need to denigrate reflects your character, not my intelligence.
Do you wish to focus on yourself still, not surprising as that is what your god is, part of your own ego. But here's the thing, being educated is more than the piece of paper you earn, it is what you learn through the instruction and study. Most school teachers are less than educated, Kent Hovind being a perfect example of a very uneducated school teacher. But that was not my original point so meh. The original point being that if you had actually learned about evolution, I mean looked at the actual evidence, all of it, and not just some blog/vlog online, you'd know that there is no evidence that does not support the theory of evolution in all of biology, archeology, and even geology. You would also know that the theory of evolution has also helped us in developing new technology, nature may make a lot of mistakes, but if it was intelligent it's mechanisms would produce perfection, which is what we're doing with them now.

The problem is when you take one little "doubt," one that's probably got a lot of evidence backing it up, and use that as a means to discredit a theory, you enter the realm of conspiracy nuttery as well as religiously fueled ignorance, you leave the realm of science and reality. Not because of the doubt, but because you did not actually look into the matter well.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621739 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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I've joked about it in the past, but seriously...what difference would it make if my ancestors were apes? It's not like I could be singled out as a lone ape...if it's true...we all are. My problem isn't a concern that I may come from a line of chimpanzees...it's simply that I don't personally believe we did. And if we did, then I want to know how the apes got here. That's pretty simple I think. I mean if you're gonna shove evolution done my kids throats, then at least tell them where the doggone apes came from. Don't confuse them into thinking you have it all figured out and the rest of world is idiots, when the is, you don't.
A lot, medically. If you want better medical treatment, longer and healthier life, you need to know first and foremost ... how the body was formed. The irony being that the "who" is of no importance at all, they could claim it was some magical pixie, but that's not important, it's the "how" that matters, and science answers the how very well. Knowing where organs originated, what purpose they once served, if they continue to serve a purpose, and how our bodies became what they are will allow us to cure more illnesses (most importantly AIDS and cancer right now), and how to improve our lifespans, no one wants to die too soon. Knowing our genetic lineage will help us to discover where the genes are that produce genetic illnesses, and possibly eliminate those from our species in the future. Knowing our closest ancestors offers us sources for biological material that could save lives. There are a lot of people walking around with pigs' hearts now, knowing how close they are to us lead us to realize that they could save the lives of people needing new hearts and how to accomplish that successfully.

So if you want to die of a preventable illness, sure, remain with mythology, but if you want to be happy and healthy, knowing our genetic lineage is the only way.

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621740 May 6, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> There's no debunking , there is just not enough supportive evidence. It very well maybe a human predecessor, but it is thought to be too old, but whatever the hominids came from is in that category, or nothing has yet been found of it. The hominids certainly didn't jump out a hole in the ground , they came from some type tetrapod. Or perhaps your god created the first Australopithecus and it was called Adam.
But that's the same as saying it jumped out a hole in the ground.
Well, I suppose the major difference here is that while y'all spend countless hours in search of the hole that the hominid didn't jump out of, I'm teaching my kids biblical principles, to love, respect, forgive...things like that. When it's all said and done, whether I'm right or wrong, I see no harm in that. But to be honest, there really is much more to it. I debate on here, but honestly, I have no hard feelings toward any of you. I can sign off here and I think about all the posters in here who don't believe, and it saddens me, because although I'm sure many of you enjoy your life, you really don't know what you're missing.:)

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621741 May 6, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> BTW that is a rabid fundie site "the disco institute"
Ida isn't a lemur , it's teeth and nails prove it isn't.
But it is so old and far in age from the hominids , there's nothing
between to show it became a hominid.
But Ida is not on the lemur line because she lacks two key characteristics shared by lemurs a grooming claw on her second toe and a fused set of teeth called a tooth comb.
This is what I was talking about, these people know they are lying when they say it is a lemur. It isn't its a primate and very well could be our ancestor.
it's the discovery news site. it's not a rabid fundie site. Please

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621742 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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it's the discovery news site. it's not a rabid fundie site. Please
Not a "fundie" site, no, but it's far from scientific. It's still mainstream media, and still bloated with commentary and improperly worded explanations of things. Discovery is known for misrepresenting the facts on numerous occasions, the only way to get the actual facts is to read the actual scientific papers though, as no news source will ever be accurate on all such matters. This is what I am talking about when I call you uneducated, you don't know your sources, you should always verify those, always.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

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#621743 May 6, 2013
Thought this was worth reposting, i thought it explained it to a T...
Truths buster wrote this to another poster;

Your desperate attempt to will science into something it is not is hilarious. First, science does not do anything,science is what men observe. Perhaps you meant flawed humans, who call themselves scientists.

Perhaps you need a clue or your mommy.

First let's get this straight. Proof, as we mean it when we say "prove me wrong", has nothing to do with science. While we might use the word "proof" in science, it is not a scientific idea. Proving is an exercise in logic. The other meaning of the word "proof", as it is used when we refer to whiskey "this is 90 proof" actually has its origin in the meaning of the word as we use it in science, but that's a whole different story!

Here's a definition of what it means to prove something: "Proof is arriving at a logical conclusion, based on the available evidence." Notice that this has absolutely nothing to do with being right or wrong. It also has nothing to do with science either, since you can have logical conclusions in Social Studies, English, or any other subject. The word proof is used a lot in law, and the idea isn't a lot different if we use it in science.

In science we collect empirical evidence through the process of experimentation. If we collect enough evidence, we will probably notice patterns or regularities in the evidence, and then we will develop generalizations that describe what we have observed. These generalized descriptions of observed events are called scientific laws.

Scientific law: a generalized description, usually expressed in mathematical terms, which describes the empirical behavior of matter.

Scientific laws describe things. They do not explain them.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621744 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Well, I suppose the major difference here is that while y'all spend countless hours in search of the hole that the hominid didn't jump out of, I'm teaching my kids biblical principles, to love, respect, forgive...things like that. When it's all said and done, whether I'm right or wrong, I see no harm in that. But to be honest, there really is much more to it. I debate on here, but honestly, I have no hard feelings toward any of you. I can sign off here and I think about all the posters in here who don't believe, and it saddens me, because although I'm sure many of you enjoy your life, you really don't know what you're missing.:)
So you are teaching them modern morals and not christian ones. Of course that's a different topic as well, a red herring. We seek answers and refuse to buy made up non-answers, you waste your life thinking about death, we spend ours working to improve our lives. If you want a comparison, you won't like the results of such.

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