Prove there's a god.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621835 May 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nice. I've never seen that flic.
Thanks for your condolences. She had an unnecessary surgery that the great field of medical science botched, she was unable to recover from it and died 11 days after the surgery. She was only 71. Just one week earlier, she was out riding her horse like she did every Saturday. I miss the ole bag, she was a good friend.
I normally do not dig at old wounds, so if you do not wish to continue with what I am about to point out, I will understand.

However, how do you know that it was the surgery that killed her and not complications unrelated to the surgery? There are a thousand ways in which the body can "just so suddenly die," and surgery doesn't always help, many complications that are attributed to surgery by the patients or other people are also often unrelated.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#621837 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
<quoted text>Well, obviously if billions don't agree, there is some degree of controversy. According to a worldwide census, only 14.09% of the people in the world are non-religious and 12.48% are classified as "other". I'll give or take a few of the religious and say some believe God or a god used evolution as a means of creation, but for the most part...regardless of what the scientific crowd or atheist choose to believe...when discussing the TOE as it relates to the evolution of man...there is definitely controversy.
Only with fundies.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#621838 May 6, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>Hypocrite much, shove down your throats? Puuulease!!! And what has the science world done with their belief of EVOLUTION in the class rooms of the USA, from elamentry to college?? They are brain washing kids by the thousands with their hypocrisy and lies...

[QUOTE]
So do tell, TSI- just HOW did your god go about creating a man from DUST and then creating a woman from a RIB of the first man?
This ought to be good......"

You have put yourself in the same position as a Christian.. PROVE to us there isnt a GOD?

Now since SCIENCE and Atheist has YET to prove the nonexistence of God,(regardless of your stupid claim other wise), because if you can honestly say that you have indeed searched out and deeply examined all proposed evidences of God and found them all lacking.
You would be a certifiable fool, and liar or both.

We both KNOW there are no atheists/or scientist who can even be aware of all the evidences that may exist for God,(besides nature itself) nor even of all proposed evidences since this would require a knowledge of every argument for God that has ever existed as well as all possible other evidences. To truly KNOW there is zero evidence for God’s existence implies that the atheist claiming this knows all possible evidences for God’s existence. Which is ridiculas!!!
Ridiculas?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#621839 May 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Get used to the mental tapdancing with these folks....
This from the head tap dancer.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#621840 May 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Nice. I've never seen that flic.

Thanks for your condolences. She had an unnecessary surgery that the great field of medical science botched, she was unable to recover from it and died 11 days after the surgery. She was only 71. Just one week earlier, she was out riding her horse like she did every Saturday. I miss the ole bag, she was a good friend.
I take it you didn't pray for her?

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621841 May 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics refers to a closed system.
You are either horrible uneducated or a liar, or both.
Quote the "Law of Biogenesis" to which you refer.
For the question of veracity RE: chrom 2 fusion, supply a link to a scientific site which agrees with you.
What you have is christian apologetic, weak pleading at best.
The Second Law of thermodynamics applies to all systems, open or closed. The law states, that "the entropy of an "isolated" system does not decrease". It doesn't say "closed". In the natural sciences an isolated system is a physical system without any external exchange – neither matter nor energy can enter or exit, but can only move around inside. Truly isolated systems cannot exist in nature. The Second Law prohibits any functioning biological mechanism from falling together by pure chance, without assistance or plan, using only the properties of matter.

I'm neither uneducated nor a liar.

That was a typo...my mistake. I meant to type Abiogenesis. Shall I quote that? Doubt it...surely you realize...it doesn't happen.

I supplied a link re: chromosome 2 that provides excellent scientific data ( http://creation.com/chromosome-2-fusion-2 )...if you're too closed minded to read it or simply fear you don't possess the intelligence to argue it...then that isn't my problem.

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621842 May 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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If all atheists and agnostics were to leave the U.S., 98 percent of the members of the Academy of Sciences, and two percent of the prison population, would be gone.
Hmm..that's interesting data there Catch...a more recent study shows 11% of prisoners are atheist or non-religious, but I'm more apt to believe your 2% is closer to the truth. On the other hand, the most recent study I could find...it was in 2009, shows this:

A recent survey (June 2009) of over 2,500 U.S. scientists shows that the scientific community has a very different view of God from society as a whole. Only 33% of scientists believe in "God" while another 18% believe in a "universal spirit" or "higher power".(See source 1.) The study concluded that scientists are less likely to believe in a "God" or "Higher Power" as the general public.

It can be broken down even further by the different areas of study:

Biological/Medical Field: 32% believe in "God", another 19% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 41% do not believe in either.

Chemistry: 41% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 39% do not believe in either.

Geoscience: 30% believe in "God", another 20% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 47% do not believe in either.

Physics/Astronomy: 29% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 46% do not believe in either.

By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in "God" or a "Higher Power" with approx. 83% having a religious affiliation according to a 2006 survey conducted by the Pew Research Center.

Now that...that surprised me. Go figure

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621843 May 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Only with fundies.
Perhaps...but I doubt that is entirely the case.

“I speak my mind”

Since: Sep 10

It hurts to bite my tongue

#621844 May 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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ToE is fully accepted, no research is required for veracity.
If it were "fully" accepted...then how do you explain the billions of people who still believe in God or a god? Karl...try to at least be realistic here.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#621845 May 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nice. I've never seen that flic.
Thanks for your condolences. She had an unnecessary surgery that the great field of medical science botched, she was unable to recover from it and died 11 days after the surgery. She was only 71. Just one week earlier, she was out riding her horse like she did every Saturday. I miss the ole bag, she was a good friend.
I hear a lot of stories like that. Some doctors are useless sacks of drug addicted dog shyt.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#621846 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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The Second Law of thermodynamics applies to all systems, open or closed. The law states, that "the entropy of an "isolated" system does not decrease". It doesn't say "closed". In the natural sciences an isolated system is a physical system without any external exchange – neither matter nor energy can enter or exit, but can only move around inside. Truly isolated systems cannot exist in nature. The Second Law prohibits any functioning biological mechanism from falling together by pure chance, without assistance or plan, using only the properties of matter.
I'm neither uneducated nor a liar.
That was a typo...my mistake. I meant to type Abiogenesis. Shall I quote that? Doubt it...surely you realize...it doesn't happen.
I supplied a link re: chromosome 2 that provides excellent scientific data ( http://creation.com/chromosome-2-fusion-2 )...if you're too closed minded to read it or simply fear you don't possess the intelligence to argue it...then that isn't my problem.
Your second law creationist garbage doesn't hold water.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#621847 May 6, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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schools have an obligation to protect minor children from filth
Then they should quit showing gay porn in the schools.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621848 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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The Second Law of thermodynamics applies to all systems, open or closed. The law states, that "the entropy of an "isolated" system does not decrease". It doesn't say "closed". In the natural sciences an isolated system is a physical system without any external exchange – neither matter nor energy can enter or exit, but can only move around inside. Truly isolated systems cannot exist in nature. The Second Law prohibits any functioning biological mechanism from falling together by pure chance, without assistance or plan, using only the properties of matter.
I'm neither uneducated nor a liar.
That was a typo...my mistake. I meant to type Abiogenesis. Shall I quote that? Doubt it...surely you realize...it doesn't happen.
I supplied a link re: chromosome 2 that provides excellent scientific data ( http://creation.com/chromosome-2-fusion-2 )...if you're too closed minded to read it or simply fear you don't possess the intelligence to argue it...then that isn't my problem.
Wow, you don't know that "isolated" means "closed" in this context? You really are not too bright.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621849 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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If it were "fully" accepted...then how do you explain the billions of people who still believe in God or a god? Karl...try to at least be realistic here.
Two things, billions of people are not scientifically literate, and evolution technically does not discount all concepts of what a god is. You ask someone else to be "realistic" yet you deny real evidence in place of blind and unsupported assertions, irony.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#621850 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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If it were "fully" accepted...then how do you explain the billions of people who still believe in God or a god? Karl...try to at least be realistic here.
Also, fully 100% of the scientific organizations on EARTH support the Theory of Evolution.

Then there are the billions of humans that don't believe in the Christian God at all. 2.1 billion and 1.8 billion

After Christians and Muslims, non-believers/non-religious come next. 1.1 billion

Catholics enjoyed a pretty big drop in attendance when it came out that their priests were screwing their children....and probably had been for a thousand+ years.

I also hear that some protestant denominations are having a hard time filling pews.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621854 May 6, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>My post was in regards to Kittenkoder not having base thoughts, not you.
So basically, you are jealous because I do not base my thoughts and actions on another person's opinions and wishful thinking the way you do.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#621856 May 6, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Compared to the tiny minority of midget minds called atheist apologists, who attempted to use evolution to justify their delusions.
What do you think of the finding that most all non sub-Saharan Africans (us) carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood???

It's making for some pretty interesting twists and turns for the 'missing link' crowd (now there's no need for one).

Since: Nov 11

Sandia Park, NM

#621857 May 6, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
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Sure right here.
God said that he gave man free will.
People whom are mentally ill or mentally retarded have limited control over their actions or impulses.
A mentally ill person in a comatose state or just a normal person in a coma have no free will.
Being that not everybody has free will over the actions of there bodies or the thoughts in there heads including Tourettes syndrome not all people where given free will.
If all people do not have free will then god could have not given all people free will.
We only sin because we have free will but since all people do not have free will sin does not exist
Improper use of the term "whom" accompanied by multiple misspellings. Can't really make a point when the sharpener is dull.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#621858 May 6, 2013
Truth signed in wrote:
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Hmm..that's interesting data there Catch...a more recent study shows 11% of prisoners are atheist or non-religious, but I'm more apt to believe your 2% is closer to the truth. On the other hand, the most recent study I could find...it was in 2009, shows this:
A recent survey (June 2009) of over 2,500 U.S. scientists shows that the scientific community has a very different view of God from society as a whole. Only 33% of scientists believe in "God" while another 18% believe in a "universal spirit" or "higher power".(See source 1.) The study concluded that scientists are less likely to believe in a "God" or "Higher Power" as the general public.
It can be broken down even further by the different areas of study:
Biological/Medical Field: 32% believe in "God", another 19% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 41% do not believe in either.
Chemistry: 41% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 39% do not believe in either.
Geoscience: 30% believe in "God", another 20% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 47% do not believe in either.
Physics/Astronomy: 29% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 46% do not believe in either.
By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in "God" or a "Higher Power" with approx. 83% having a religious affiliation according to a 2006 survey conducted by the Pew Research Center.
Now that...that surprised me. Go figure
Goes to show you, huh?

Wink :)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621860 May 6, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Do you mean as compared to the 21 year history of NAMBLA being an intrinsic part of the IGLA, and the primary force within the gay community. No splinter group there.
I wonder, what conspiracy nuttery don't you buy? Do you also think that the Moon landing was staged?

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