Prove there's a god.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#621050 May 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Those people are disgusting without that anyway, they brag they killed Jesus and spit on Christians. I have no doubt they gave inspiration to Germans to be be Reich.
I always thought there was something a little "off" about you.....now I know there is.

WOW.

You're a sick dude, dude.

And ignorant.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#621051 May 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Ahem.....when I copy and paste I always list my sources.
When YOU copy and paste, you do NOT always list your sources- sometimes, but not always.
And what your problem is with copying and pasting I don't know....unless you resent that there are those who do research and then actually LEARN something from the research they've done.
I know that given how much you indulge in and embrace ignorance, you find learning anything to be unnecessary.
Somebody needs to go and bail RR out of jail.

He's not here, so....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#621052 May 3, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Somebody needs to go and bail RR out of jail.
He's not here, so....
Gee- maybe he has another day off from all of his other days off- those being the days he is uh......"working".

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#621053 May 3, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are brainwashed by the science world AM, you are guliable enough to believe what ever a man/or men of degree's tell you. You have been duped.
And yes there is ''doubt about it''.... Please read "all"" and use rational logic, to interpret your findings, if you can muster that.
http://books.google.com/books...
Okay go figure my degree in with this equation, and while you are at it explain why do people get an education. I don't go for what people tell me, I go for what becomes knowledge, and have enough wisdom to distinguish between what is knowledge ,and what is complete religious garbage.

“Don't try to goad me...”

Since: Nov 07

... I'm a goadless heathen.

#621054 May 3, 2013
Reading the posts in response to the story about the 5-year-old Kentucky boy who fatally shot his 2-year-old sister. Lot of people so outraged that any parent in their right mind would even give a 5-year-old a weapon in the first place.

Can't help but wonder, how many of those responders who are shocked and astounded at the "stupidity" and "criminal irresponsibility" of the parents somehow manage to defend the motives of that creation-story deity who put a child-like couple in a garden with the "tree of knowledge" propped in a corner, told them to stay away from it and then left them unsupervised?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#621055 May 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
obviously
you are unworthy of the investment
perhaps you can answer an age old riddle:

how is it that humanist/socialist/atheists consistantly make such vicious judgements such as "you are unworthy", but claim in the same breath that Christians are the one's saying such things???

karl, you've been made worthy through the blood of Jesus!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#621056 May 3, 2013
saidI wrote:
<quoted text>
I have know idea why you think what I wrote meant Science is a bunch of MM hogwash!
I think science is great.
No slight was meant. The quote was meant as an addition to your comment, intended to highlight what we often see from the theist.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621057 May 3, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are brainwashed by the science world AM, you are guliable enough to believe what ever a man/or men of degree's tell you. You have been duped.
And yes there is ''doubt about it''.... Please read "all"" and use rational logic, to interpret your findings, if you can muster that.
http://books.google.com/books...
Wait, you've just discounted learned people as sources but you now want to offer a source of what you consider learned people. That is very strange.

You do realize that disproving evolution, despite the impossibility of such a venture, does not lead to Goddidit, right? Especially the cutest, most popular god of your country of birth, which is derived from nothing more than cultural pressure. Instead of sounding utterly devoid of education and wilfully ignorant, why not set out to do what the original poster of this thread asked?

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621058 May 3, 2013
Greens - tuf wrote:
Imagine it, a little fish looks out of the ocean and sees land, he instantly starts thinking " hmm, I need legs, not three , not one, but two, and why were at it let's throw a set of lungs in there two. The word around town says that I might need them.
Now when we hit land with our two fresh legs and fresh lungs we will ago exploring. Now if at anytime shell our two legs get tired and we become short of breath never fear, we shall just look to the sky's and say "hmm, we need wings".
In other words " if you build the planet, they will come " They will come from a place called "nowhere" a place that has no meaning.
They come and survive, they fight for their lives to survive, yet they don't know what survival is?
This is all just a fluke because the conditions are right.
Yeah right !!
What educational system produced you? The taxpayers of that district deserve a refund.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621059 May 3, 2013
Greens - tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
And the strength, where did the strength go?.
We would be no chance against a big ape in a arm wrestle.
If we are a better newer product then where is the strength ??
Lol
Evolution is quite simply the quantifiable change in alleles over time. We did not evolve from big apes. Our path was a different one from a common ancestor. The strength didn't have to go anywhere. Even religion has a place in evolutionary development, as it had certain benefits to primitive man by way of socialization and explanation. Now, religion is nothing more than a divisive, anti-intellectual drain on society. It may have usefulness for socialization and prayer, like meditation, can actually be good for those praying psychologically. That's personal prayer. Intercessory prayer is demonstrably harmful to those being "prayed" upon.

But, the drain of false hope, the willful disregard for education, the anti-human, anti-science, and anti-society stance of especially Christianity and Islam are not worth whatever little benefit is derived. Religion is a dinosaur. It deserves extinction.

How old is the Earth?

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621060 May 3, 2013
Greens - tuf wrote:
<quoted text> Also while flight became a bit hit they started to eye off the moon, and they eventually said "one day we will fly to that thing, we will even stick a flag in it, the flag will have stars and stripes and everything.
I'm not certain of the relevance here, but space flight dreams are quite old. Probably older than dreams of geo-aviation.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621061 May 3, 2013
Jorge W Arbusto wrote:
<quoted text>What educational system produced you? The taxpayers of that district deserve a refund.
The whole country deserves a refund for that one.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621062 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>You wish that we take you serious, when your primary source of information is Wiki and that is where you direct people. You simply do not have any idea about ideas.
Would you like to ponder what an artist's rendering would be? For example, how do you think an artists rendering of a man from mars or a vampire would come out to be?
Yes, "transitional fossils" and no, you can not avoid the issue by side stepping and pretending that all fossils are transitional fossils. Transitional fossils are all the fossils that are missing at each stage of the theories of evolution. There absence is like a three story house without stairs.
No, the myth goes that there was this transitional species that evolved into both ape and man. Why was this theory developed? Because the evolution theory of apes evolving into man was laughed out of science, when scientists could not get around the idea of man and apes co-existing. They even theorized that humans had tails and the tails eventually fell off.
There is too much falsehood in this post to respond. It would take months.

Here, knock yourself out. Get educated, because you are doing yourself a disservice.

http://www.talkorigins.org/

When will you understand that your ridiculous attempts to debunk evolutionary science do not lead to Goddidit. It still remains a classic logical fallacy, the argument from ignorance.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621063 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>"recnognize" . I think the uniqueness is yours and that is no secret.
A typographical error is not analogous to a lack of proper rhetorical skills. You should know this, but your hubris prevents you from admitting that your "answers" only stem from a religion that is a majority in your place of birth and has nothing to do with truth, justice, or the American way.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621064 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I have no doubt that you are still clinging to the idea of a flat earth. You are right, the age of the earth is formulated to be around 6200 years. Your theory based on light years is juvenile, since time and space are not constants. Don't worry, your Wiki schooling is also obvious.
That's not what he wrote. Your dishonesty is palpable.

Formulated by whom to be 6200 years old?

Are you cognizant that dogs were domesticated over 33,000 years ago? Are you postulating that we could have reached our current population in 6200 years from a pair of naked teenagers (good thing Adam didn't find the sheep sexy), especially in light of a maniacal, genocidal, world-wide flood where babies and fetuses were drowned in some failed attempt to fix an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent's mistake.

Your god is nothing more than a lousy, torturing middle manager. Welcome to YahwehMart.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621065 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I am not a Catholic but I bet if I go to a bunch of Catholic priests and ask them the same question, I will get the same answer.
Type in "Was Mary a virgin?"
You are a lapsed Catholic, as is every American Christian.

Mary needed to be a virgin in the story because women were considered property and tainted property if they had carnal knowledge. You can't have a zombie, Semitic hippie come out of a tainted piece of meat. That such nonsense is even considered in the 21st Century is amazing. You have been pulled out of so much nonsense by the secular world and its superior morality yet you flail and thrash for the maniacal writings of goat herders in the Bronze Age. It's all so very strange.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621067 May 3, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Given that evolution, according to Darwin, was in a continual state of motion ... it followed logically that the fossil record should be rife with examples of transitional forms leading from the less to the more evolved.3
Even those who believe in rapid evolution recognize that a considerable number of generations would be required for one distinct "kind" to evolve into another more complex kind. There ought, therefore, to be a considerable number of true transitional structures preserved in the fossils -- after all, there are billions of non-transitional structures there! But (with the exception of a few very doubtful creatures such as the controversial feathered dinosaurs and the alleged walking whales), they are not there.
Instead of filling in the gaps in the fossil record with so-called missing links, most paleontologists found themselves facing a situation in which there were only gaps in the fossil record, with no evidence of transformational intermediates between documented fossil species.4
The entire history of evolution from the evolution of life from non-life to the evolution of vertebrates from invertebrates to the evolution of man from the ape is strikingly devoid of intermediates: the links are all missing in the fossil record, just as they are in the present world.
With respect to the origin of life, a leading researcher in this field, Leslie Orgel, after noting that neither proteins nor nucleic acids could have arisen without the other, concludes:
And so, at first glance, one might have to conclude that life could never, in fact, have originated by chemical means.5
Being committed to total evolution as he is, Dr. Orgel cannot accept any such conclusion as that. Therefore, he speculates that RNA may have come first, but then he still has to admit that:
The precise events giving rise to the RNA world remain unclear.... investigators have proposed many hypotheses, but evidence in favor of each of them is fragmentary at best.6
http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_t...
Darwin? Darwin is so 150 years ago. Do you still use the telephone as developed by Bell? Do you still drive a Stanley Steamer. Do you still only dream of getting into a metal tube and getting to New York in three hours?

The Institute for Creation Research is a group of paid, professional apologists who are laughing all the way to the bank. How exactly is the failed attempt to debunk evolutionary science creation research? Should they be researching creation? Oh, that's right. They can't. There is no there there, so they are left to scam use lightened rubes.

You do realize that while fossils are sexy, the proofs in evolution lie in DNA, as admitted to by Christian Francis Collins, MD, PhD and current director of the NIH.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/arti...

Evolutionary science is intertwined with every other scientific discipline. You benefit from it every day, from oil and gas geology to medicine and beyond. Remember, Germ Theory is "just a theory", so you'd better pray that bacteria away.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621068 May 3, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
The bias of evolutionary leaders
It is a fallacy to believe that facts speak for themselves—they are always interpreted according to a framework. The framework behind the evolutionists’ interpretation is naturalism—it is assumed that things made themselves, that no divine intervention has happened, and that God has not revealed to us knowledge about the past.
Evolution is a deduction from this assumption, and it is essentially the idea that things made themselves. It includes these unproven ideas: nothing gave rise to something at an alleged ‘big bang,’ non-living matter gave rise to life, single-celled organisms gave rise to many-celled organisms, invertebrates gave rise to vertebrates, ape-like creatures gave rise to man, non-intelligent and amoral matter gave rise to intelligence and morality, man’s yearnings gave rise to religions, etc.
Professor D.M.S. Watson, one of the leading biologists and science writers of his day, demonstrated the atheistic bias behind much evolutionary thinking when he wrote:
Evolution [is] a theory universally accepted not because it can be proven by logically coherent evidence to be true, but because it's the only alternative, special creation, is clearly incredible.1
So it’s not a question of biased religious creationists versus objective scientific evolutionists; rather, it is the biases of the Christian religion versus the biases of the religion of secular humanism resulting in different interpretations of the same scientific data. As the anti-creationist science writer Boyce Rensberger admits:
At this point, it is necessary to reveal a little inside information about how scientists work, something the textbooks don’t usually tell you. The fact is that scientists are not really as objective and dispassionate in their work as they would like you to think. Most scientists first get their ideas about how the world works not through rigorously logical processes but through hunches and wild guesses. As individuals, they often come to believe something to be true long before they assemble the hard evidence that will convince somebody else that it is. Motivated by faith in his own ideas and a desire for acceptance by his peers, a scientist will labor for years knowing in his heart that his theory is correct but devising experiment after experiment whose results he hopes will support his position.2
Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist — see documentation), is a renowned champion of neo-Darwinism, and certainly one of the world’s leaders in promoting evolutionary biology. He recently wrote this very revealing comment (the italics were in the original). It illustrates the implicit philosophical bias against Genesis creation regardless of whether or not the facts support it:
We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.3
http://creation.com/refuting-evolution-chapte...
Scientists are biased toward evolution because it is demonstrably true. They are biased against religion because it is demonstrably false.

Once again, trying to "debunk" evolution will never lead to Godidit.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#621069 May 3, 2013
Jorge W Arbusto wrote:
<quoted text>That's not what he wrote. Your dishonesty is palpable.
Formulated by whom to be 6200 years old?
Are you cognizant that dogs were domesticated over 33,000 years ago? Are you postulating that we could have reached our current population in 6200 years from a pair of naked teenagers (good thing Adam didn't find the sheep sexy), especially in light of a maniacal, genocidal, world-wide flood where babies and fetuses were drowned in some failed attempt to fix an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent's mistake.
Your god is nothing more than a lousy, torturing middle manager. Welcome to YahwehMart.
Hehe, YahwehMart, I like that one.

“Headless Body in Topless Bar”

Since: Sep 07

Hygiene, Colorado

#621070 May 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
But not 100% right?
“Multi National” coalition force
So without or help? Really shows how much you really know – zilch You reliance on supermarket tabloids as you source of news is letting you down
US invasion forces in Iraq – 150,000
UK invasion forces in iraq 46,000
So that’s about 70% not including a small number from 30+ other countries so you are caught lying again.
RR is the worst of Topix posters. He just argues to argue.

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